November 2012 - The nights are drawing in again

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wanda shame on you. I'll think of a suitable punishment.

That's made me feel really hungry!

Anyone else's child take all the bedding off the bed?........

.....hurl themelves Into the side of the house ending In a massively scraped chin........

.....take a wheelbarrow and some hay to bed with them, then throw it out of bed,then lean so far over the side of the cot they fall out on their head?

Or us it just mine?

Hi guys, hope you've all had a good weekend? I have struggled tbh, I've been struggling for a bit. E has been really difficult and i'm not sure what to do with him. If he doesn't want to do something he emits a high pitched screech and boy can he keep going. He drops to the floor and does it when we're out, causing a scene, and it can be for the slightest thing. When he's in bed I scour the tinterwebs for ideas of what to do with him and then in the day I am desperate for him to go to bed. It's like a vicious cycle. I am trying so hard to keep my patience and he is trying his level best to push me. Tell me this is a horrible phase or something? I've no idea what I can do, or indeed how to dissuade him from bad behaviour. Didn't want to write this, hate the idea people might think he's a horrible child, because he can be such a lovely boy. But i'm really finding things tough atm.

perse that's wonderful news :) sorry you've been so ill, though!

Loving the gift ideas people, had no idea what to get e but i've got a fair bit jotted down now!

rofl that convo re bird and rat made me laugh pr!

I love hearing about your trips to the safari park pass it's great :)

sounds like some really lovely weekends were had :D

well done on the half marathon lily and sorry about your car

Stirling castle sounds awesome. I have never been to Scotland and i've always wanted to go!

oh jims big hugs! the cleaner not turning up would've pissed me off too and that'd be without actually needing one :(

Yay eliza that's fab :)

LOL Wanda that really made me chuckle!

see above Wanda mine is being a big PITA. I'm worried i've somehow ruined him and he doesn't get enough stimulation or something and that's why he's being so difficult :(

Evening wimmins.

Yet more bugs and another day off work for me. Meh. Not quite sure what is wrong but I feel totally wrung out. I cooked two meals this afternoon and had to go for a lie down. I closed my eyes for 'ten minutes' and woke two hours later. My voice has returned if very weak so back at it tomorrow.

kyz it sounds very hard going but if it makes you feel better it sounds much like P. She can be very hard work and is getting harder. She seems to have missed the terrible twos and gone straight for threenager complete with eye rolling and tutting. It is extremely wearing. That might not help in practical terms but maybe knowing we are all going through it can make the days easier?

That made me laugh wanda! You are a terrible woman! P is pretty weird but she has yet to take a wheel barrow to bed. I suspect that is just because she doesn't have one though.

Well done on the running lily. I am very impressed.

How is our lovely qm doing I wonder? Crazy busy I bet.

I meant to share my Christmas shopping bargains from the other day. We were in sainsbury's (as per usual) and their clearance shelf had lots of toys including a wooden pot and pan set reduced from £8.99 to 90p! We also got a john deer tractor (which she spied and loved so much she spent the rest of the shopping trip on her hands and knees vrumming it around) for her and her cousin for a few pence, a little iron which hisses for pennies and maracas and frog shaped guiros. None of them cost over a pound.

I. Meant to say jims cleaner not turning up NIGHTMARE. Particularly in your situation at the mo. I would have melted down.

kyz don't worry. O is very hard work. Very. He wanders around the kitchen pushing ds1s baby dan booster chair so he can climb up and get things, he is in the fridge, He notices straightaway if I leave a cupboard lock off or the dishwasher open. If all that fails he try's to escape upstairs. Tantrums don't wash I just walk away so he is not too bad with that.

He loves going for a walk in the pushchair or being outside messing around. So I am trying to make the most of the whether.

By the time DH comes home at night I am frazzled.

There you are then everyone. Birthday sorted, just get them a small toy wheelbarrow and bale of hay.

Kyz and wanda L sounds like O and E. He's is awesome but exhausting withe tantrums and demands

Hello peeps
Crazy busy here, and now MIL has taken a turn for the worse and DH wants us all to visit. We are moving in two weeks, have a birthday party for DD1 on Sunday, and a photo shoot too, so I have said no. I want the kids to remember her when we last visited, not lying in a hospital bed in her lounge. He can go, but I don't want the kids to go, and I have too much to do. Is that mean of me? She may well live another decade, although I doubt it.

Sorry all me me me. Love you all xxx

Oh and J appears to have had a tap fitted to his arse. Not sure MIL wants a bug to boot.

And we have somewhere to live - cannot afford it, but it is lovely and great location

kyz that sounds like hard work. F is currently fairly distractable with singing. I think your three main options are distract/ignore/put him in a buggy/cot if he does scream. They are just starting to learn about consequences so I hope you find something that works for you. And everything is just a phase - I hope anyway!

pass hope you feel better tomorrow. btw after the threenager phase, there comes the f*ing fours. I saw a thread on that recently - which made me laugh out loud in recognition.

wanda we have a mini wheelbarrow. Neither of the boys have tried to take it to bed. Yet.

I have found another cleaner who is coming tomorrow. I am more confident this one will turn up. I made it in to the office today, hurrah, but will work from home tomorrow.

House porn house porn, qm. Sorry to hear about mil, but I agree with your thoughts. We weren't taken to see my dads mum in her final weeks with cancer, so our memories were of her in (marginally) better health. And we weren't relocating to boot!

F can be challenging, but on the whole I think is ok. My friends boy, a week older than F, who we saw at the weekend, is a handful and then some, so Kyz and co, you have my sympathies as it looks exhausting. This too shall pass??

House Porn on FB

Agree qm my last memories of mum are horrid tbh. Be back later must get up..........

kyz hugs. It's a hard age. So far E is not too bad but been there and done it (sometimes still doing it) with DD1. It does get easier the older they get as they understand reasoning and consequences.

jims what are the fives? glad you got a cleaner sorted.

pass my friend shops in sainsbury and is always reporting back with bargains. must get myself there. hope you feel better soon.

Got to dash. Doing school run then taking E to boppin tots.

kyz you are doing nothing wrong . Toddlers are invented to embarass us in public. And be utter arses any time they are not being cute or asleep. We get to take revenge when they are teenagers.

I think i'm jinxed at the moment. Not only do i get some random health problem that only 300 people a year get, but the second cleaner's car has broken down. At least she let me know, unlike the first one.

Sigh.

Oh Jims rubbish luck re the second cleaner. for you

Kyz - S is very similar. Tantrums, screams, throws things, has taken to head butting DH in his rages. I have to ignore him for a short time if the red mist descends, and the main way we can get S to snap out of it is to do something that makes him laugh. Currently Monsters, Inc and me shouting "scary feet, scary feet, scary feet, scary feet" work. As does a suggestion that we go and see the loft (odd child bloody loves the loft hatch), so smelling his feet and yelling "yuck". But whatever makes him laugh stops the tantrum/rage/screaming fit.

We are watching quite a lot of Monsters Inc and Monsters University ATM! That and taking him out and making him run around a lot.

DD went through this phase. It didn't last long. His speech is multiplying daily, I think it's all to do with that. Big hugs and though, it's not easy.

oh jims. third time lucky eh.

Well I picked up the letter from the dr. It basically makes me sound like a neurotic mother. That she thinks the care E is getting is sufficient and there is nothing wrong with her and she is issuing the referral to shut me up. Has made me grrrrr. But I guess at least I have it now. My bil family are all doctors apart from him so they have given me details of a specialist at GOSH but I doubt I'll get to see him. Think the child has to be very severely ill which E isn't (anymore). Still I'll take any specialist ENT person at the moment!

Afternoon all :) Found myself out of chores so thought i'd pop in (ha, out of chores for now that is)

Thankyou so much for all of your reassurances, it does help to know other people are going through similar things with their toddlers, as in at least E isn't a monster child etc! Or if he is, he's not the only one and it will pass like everything else does :)

ah pass you do sound pretty washed out, bless you. I should hope you're getting plenty of rest? thats some bargainous shopping too! I never see anything like that, I must be going at the wrong time or something, I shall have to keep a better eye out

wanda e likes to be in his pushchair too and i've made a point of taking him somewhere at least every day, even if he is in his pushchair and we just go for a walk

oh no qm i'll be thinking of you all and your MIL :(

jims singing has been working well this morning thanks for that! We had a rough start (box of cereal all over the floor, juice everywhere) but we went to visit a friend and not only did I drive to somewhere I've not driven before, using the satnav, I also coped with getting lost, and I managed to have a nice morning with a beautifully well behaved boy :) Glad you got a cleaner sorted too

i just feel like maybe he needs more from me pr, or maybe just some different things? I don't know. New places, new activities etc?

zamboni the red mist is a great name for it, and e certainly suffers from the same thing by the sounds of it! We've not had headbutting but we've had slapping and the like!

Hi Kyz. Thought I'd come out of my lurking hole to say we have major tantrums here, a friend told me that as the toddlers get older the tantrums become stronger and longer, I've found this to be true in our house. Sometimes humour helps but mostly just letting it run it's course. It's amazing how many tantrums we can have in one day. They consist of chucking toys, kicking toys. Scattering stuff from surfaces, head banging on floor (which I find upsetting). I think as the language develops hopefully they will ease. I've had some right corkers in public (can leave you feeling a bit crappy) although we've totally nailed bus travel now with thanks to the wifi, iPad and choc buttons.

Just a quickie I'm in maternity observation for the night as after losing my plug yesterday I'm now contracting every 5 minutes. Have had steroids and have to stay in tonight as they can mess up insulin uptake. Doc not sure if proper labour yet (I'm 34+3) if it is its so different from last time. Contractions feel less sore than period pains! I just thought my back was a bit sore but they spotted the contractions on my routine CTG today and found I'm 3cm dilated. Sadly baby is breech again so if I do progress it's a section. Shame as if this is labour it's so much more comfy. Lovely to hear the gorgeous newborn squeaks from the cots around me. Though have got ear plugs for later. Am so glad id packed my bag! That was one less stress for me when they announced at a routine appointment I'd not be allowed home. Can't imagine what DH would have put in it!!!!

Wow wow wow. I will be thinking of you yw keep the updates coming! Xxxx big hugs.

Oh my word! How exciting. Fingers crossed all is comfy and well for lovely wellies

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

That is all, yw. Fc for you both. Hope Mr Wellies and the bear are ok at home xx