November 2012 - The nights are drawing in again

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zamboni E went through a faze like this. She seems to have come out the other side. I think like pr said it's just a touch of the toddler syndrome. E's faze lasted about 2 weeks. Hope it ends soon for you.

Thanks. I guess we ride it out then and hope for the best!!

Our drains were like that Zamboni. We filled the sinks and bath with water then took the plugs out and flushed all the toilets as close together as we could to flush through the system and get rid of the stagnant water.

I read Life after Life when you recommended it a while back yw and I recommeded it to my dad and he enjoyed it too.

eliza do 'to be silly! we all can't all comment on everything all the time. But usually there is someone around to put us right, and that is the wonderful thing about the quiche. Pop in, have meltdown, get hugs, wine, coffee as required and off we trot feeling fulfilled and loved. Who could ask for more?

What kind of day time sleep/routine does he have zamboni might it be time to drop/cut short a nap/take him running and generally knacker him out?

Someone recently recommended an author to me Tana French, maybe her name was, keep forgetting and then remembering I must have a look.

Whinge alert

I have a fucking sore neck. Which is causing a really fucking sore head. It radiates into my jaw and teeth and down my arm at times. When it is really bad I feel lightheaded with the pain.

Fuck me it was sore today.

I ended up leaving work early as I walked into a class and said "so guys today we are . . . Ehm. . . Ah . . . No idea . . . " and I was sent packing. DH managed to get me an appointment with the doc for when I got home so I am armed with diclofenac and instructions to call on Friday afternoon with a possibility of another appointment that afternoon.

Thankfully the drugs have taken the edge off and I can relax at the moment but my word it was dreadful earlier!

you poor little bean. That sounds awful. Bed for you. ((Hugs))

Oh dear Pass that sounds horrid!

I want to dress like Pass but I am too fat and old. I also love your dress YW, and Wanda is a classy lady.

But I have all my own teeth and can still do up my shoe laces. I am grateful for that.

I just looked at my post and thought 'who the FUCK is QuicheMama?'

and

Zamboni, sleep times are stressful here too. Particularly at the start of the week when he is unsettled having been with Daddy all weekend, so perhaps there is a hint of settling back in after hols. But I think it is a bit of a phase at the moment - quite a few of the LO's seem to be going through it. You have my utmost sympathies - I am currently employing the 'sleep by any means' method and abandoning my principles to get through this phase

Stress central for me at the moment. Money worries of the highest order. Have just written an appeal against my housing benefit reduction as it has dropped to almost nothing, leaving me unable to cover my bills. Which is fun.

Lolz! That's what would happen if I name changed!

I would give a twirl but I daren't so I shall do a shuffle in a circle instead.

zamboni that sounds very similar to what p has gone through over the summer holidays. Bedtimes became a total trauma and it could be a lengthy period of screaming. However, she, like E, has come out the other side. She needs more stories at night and there is obviously a greater issue for her about going to bed as she has cried "want up", "not fair" and "no like bed" but I think that is about her realising that she can force her will on us. We shifted nap time and cut a chunk off when we can and that has made it easier. She does go later but it is more settled. It does worry me a little as I think she would benefit from earlier nights but I can't force her to be asleep. I imagine that time will sort that out

so the message is that this too shall pass!

That sounds terrible chasing. Could the citizen's advice help at all?

I'm hoping to win this appeal Pass, but in the meantime my dad is helping me out. I hate that though - at almost 30 I thought I would be independent by now

I reckon there's a lot going on for our toddlers right now. O's speech is coming on ridiculously fast, so I shouldn't be surprised that his brain seems a bit overworked. Today I asked him what my name was "Mummy, you're Mummy"

Chasing rubbish.

Sorry to hear of others' bedtime woes. He is woken after 90minutes daytime sleep and not allowed to sleep after 2.15pm ish. Bad daytime sleep often leads to worse bedtime so I think he still needs his nap. He will sleep for 3-3.5 hours at nursery, including a short nap almost as soon as he gets there (7.30 am FFS) but is well stimulated and wakes up much happier so it's needed. That sleep will be cut when he moves rooms in a month or two to fit the new room's routine so not going to insist on a change there, especially because he comes home from nursery too exhausted for even Fireman Sam. But guess we could try and really run him about a bit more in the later afternoon as well as earlier in the day. Thanks, things to think about. Might keep a note and see if the days he sleeps less translate to better bedtimes etc and take it from there! But I will concede it could just be contrary toddlerness at work here!

Which reminds me PR - did you get a Paed 's note re LO's sleep?

Pass hope you feel better soon x

This goes against the grain somewhat, but works for us so might do for someone else too. O still seems to need a massive afternoon nap. He goes down at 1.30 and can sleep until 4 - sometimes later. I napped when he did the other week and we both woke up at 5 He still went to bed at 6.30 though! I don't say this to brag, but to point out that for us, more daytime sleep leads to better nighttime sleep.

Oh and also, I keep our afternoons (what there is left when he wakes from his nap) nice and quiet and as calm as possible, after the morning chaos of nursery. Both because it's the only time we get together, as we are apart at weekends, but also because it helps smooth the transition towards the end of the day and bedtime.

Just waffle, but it might help someone

^ bedtime snack

xxx

I also find that if LO gets no sleep evenings are worse than if she gets a nap.

However we have gone from 8pm bedtimes after ITNG to 9pm bedtimes after You've been framed.

My girls like stories during the day but pre bedtime is all about nonsense on the box

Yes zamboni the paed is on side to write whatever note I need if and when, but am settling them into their ndw daytime routines before actually putting it into writing. As they have both changed routine a settling in period seems reasonable.

Fucking men. Sry. My fucking man is a cunty funk wanky shit bag.

Hmm 44 posts today. Glad a little chattier. Off to catch up.

Oh no gt, rant away

zamboni I had a hell of an august with O regarding to sleep, she only wanted to sleep next to me, or cuddled or whatever but I had to be there. I was crying most nights as my back hurt so much. It lasted exactly 4 weeks and now she self settles and sleeps 11,5 hours at night time. However I have to wake her at 2 pm latest to be able to put her down at 7. And she needs her daytime nap, if there is no nap than she is awake during the night. I decided to ride it out and sleep next to her rather than fight the battle, I had no energy really. You have my sympathy , it was hell.

Oh and her speech improved massively as well as what she can do physically. So i guess it was a leap.

Today I am thankful for my BFF who keeps me sane
I am also thankful I have just 9 more shifts to go before I leave that place for ever.
I am thankful I have a washing machine that works.
I am thankful for the iPad with 'let it go' on repeat, thus allowing me to have a coffee in peace.

QM in the same vain

I am thankful for my gorgeous husband even when he is away again!

I am thankful for being able to work part time so I can see my boy for the next two days

I am thankful for the coffee machine as I've been up since 5.30 and for baby jake meaning I can drink it

I am thankful for red bull. I have non stop appointments and stuff to do today starting now with the optician and finishing tonight with a parents' meeting at school (that we aren't supposed to take kids to, but at 5.30pm what is one supposed to do so fuck that).

And I drank a couple of small glasses of wine last night and have a sodding hangover when did I become such a lightweight? will teach me to buy cheap wine

So red bull has got me through the school run. I had a scary realisation. All these people I have to cheerily say bonjour to every morning and late afternoon. That's going to be every day for the next 8 years. That's scary.

Morning all, I thankful that it's Thursday which is the first day of the week that I get to spent with O. I'm also thankful that I only have 9 working days left until maternity leave (doesn't start until 15th October but part-time and holiday means just 9 days of work left) as I'm exhausted.

Chasing money worries are crappy. Glad your dad can help out but I understand the independence thing. For me, the court have issued an eviction notice for my tenants, so hopefully in one week they will be gone and I can finally get people in to view, get it sold and have enough money to cover maternity leave.

GT we could extend sweary Wednesday for you? What's happened?

I've bought another slow cooker It's a partitioned one which I didn't even know existed when I bought the first one just 3 weeks ago. Great because I'm veggie and I can do DP and O a meal in one side, then my version in the other, so today is the first trial of lamb/quorum casserole. I have frozen ratatouille on standby...

Meanwhile O is making a cup of tea by putting her Smarties eggcup in the printer

Ooh there's a link in my post, I didn't put it there though. How did that happen (it's the make of slow cooker I bought but not the right model)?!?!?