Jan 2014 - can we call it a sleep regression if they didn't sleep in the first place?

[Swannykazoo]

Here goes...

becca there's hope for us yet then. Only a year and a half until they are 2!

Feeling your pain on the sleep front. F is suddenly being a nightmare - getting c. 5 broken hours of sleep a night - and he doesn't nap in the day. We're all knackered and super grumpy. I think it's cause he knows I'm going back to work next week :(

F is currently in his second nursery settling in session (he was hysterically sobbing when I picked him up from his first). I am sitting in a Starbucks two mins round the corner staring at my phone. Can't believe I'm already leaving my little boy with strangers!

O's sleep is awful at the minute as well. She was a really good sleeper and has slept through many a time but this last week has been awful. Hoping it's just a phase! So many sympathies to you all.

nature they must be on their secret Facebook group again. There's definitely some planning behind this simultaneous sleep strike!!

Hi everyone, haven't been on for a while but just wanted to say we're having terrible sleeping too. H was self settling nicely and only ever needed a dummy putting back
Occasionally - now we have frequent night wakings and i end up bringing her into bed with me just to keep her quiet so she doesn't wake dd up (once she's up she doesn't go back to sleep - at all). I'm not doing anything different - where has my good little sleepy baby gone?!

And she will only sleep for 30 mins at a time during the day - generally while I'm doing the school run - so I get no down time all day either!

I definitely think they've been on facebook. I don't know if I posted this before because I didn't want to look smug but N has been sleeping through since 4 weeks (I know, it's mental, and it really is just luck. I am doing the same as I did with DD and she still won't sleep at 4 yo.) but is now getting harder and harder to put down to sleep and is waking sometimes too.

N is not liking the change of scenery and is crying hysterically every time I put him down or am out of his sight. He isn't really comfortable either unless the whole family is in sight so he seems to be suffering a bit with the move. I'm sure it won't last.

Altered it's just as hard going from being used to them sleeping through to being woken up often. Sylvie used to sleep 8-11 then until 6am so the first few weeks of her waking up every hour absolutely killed me. So I feel your pain! Hopefully he will settle down soon.

It's shit but I'm kind of glad everyone else is in the same boat. Obviously I'm not glad we are all exhausted! Tiny bastards

Felix I was thinking the same thing, that I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Felix I was thinking the same thing, that I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Not sure why that posted twice!

Apparently babies can start having nightmares around this age. I wonder if that might be part of the reason for the poor sleep.

I read that about nightmares too yesterday! I'd love to know what they have nightmares about. S would probably have them about being trapped in DP's beard.

Nightmares about not being able to find a nipple in our case I'm sure! Its not kind to laugh but when I unlatch in the morning for a shower the wee flapping arms and goldfish mouth on the search make me laugh.
Hipster food festival sounds ace Felix. Have a cocktail in a jam jar for me. Going to walk into town for our local beer festival Sat or Sun, whichever is peeing down less.

May also be seperation anxiety. can you tell I'm googling it today!!

This does not bode well, 3 wake ups since 6pm.

Separation anxiety is definitely a thing here. I left M with my sister for about 5 hours today and she was as good as gold the whole time. When I picked her up she was really happy to see me and kept kissing me, which was adorable. But when we left, my stepdad offered to help me to the car and picked up M's seat to carry for me. She immediately started breaking her heart because she thought I was leaving her again :(

But I can't blame it for the sleep thing. She's always women up at night, so this isn't new. It's just more often.

Today I got DS's carpet up and taken to the tip, and all of his wallpaper off. Tomorrow we will paint the ceiling, do the glossing and paint the floorboards. Then I can do the walls in the week.
Exciting...

Toby I really don't know how you get so much done in a day! I've still not gotten round to decorating O's room

It was easy without VelcroBaby stuck to me!

Also, I am desperate to sell my house. M will be in with us until we buy a 4 bedroom, so I need to get it ready and on the market. And DS is away until next Fri, so it's the perfect opportunity to muck put his sty room.

And O's not going to notice. You've got ages yet :o

I think we've got some separation anxiety here too. Travelled to Devon today for two weeks with our families and L cried the first time my sister held her, then did the same to my dad. It's only been two weeks since we came down for a weekend and she was fine with them then!

She's sleeping a little bit better but is getting harder to put to sleep. Fingers crossed they all start to sleep better soon!

When N was 4 months old he did something hilarious when my mum came to visit. I may have posted this already, but as soon as she entered the house he looked at her and screamed. Then he looked away and stopped crying, refusing to meet her gaze. Then after a few minutes he looked at her and was ok. When she came and sat beside him, he started the screaming again until she stood on the other side of the room. I know I am a bit evil, but I love the face he makes when he sees someone new and he does the slow motion lip pucker and cry. It's not even a real cry, more like a weird mewing sound.

Alex has just started with seperation anxiety too. I'm lucky that his sleep is pretty good. Doesn't sleep through but does random long-ish stretches and is easy to resettle. Dd is still keeping me up anyway so he seems good by comparison.

If he was my first baby I would think parenting is so easy. He is so easy going whereas dd is was so hard to please. I really haven't done anything different - they just have different personalities.

Snap tarka! There is a reason DD was almost 3 before I got pregnant with N. If it had been the other way around I would probably have ended ip with 5! As it is I am too scared of having another sleep refuser to risk it.

We had a better night last night. She woke up at 10.30, just as I was going to sleep, so I fed her. Then she woke again at 3am and DH got up to her. He picked her up and settled her back down and she went back to sleep. 15 minutes later she.was crying again so I got up and she was soaking wet. Like through her nappy, vest, sleeping bag and onto the sheet. Bloody DH

So I changed her, stripped and remade the bed, fed her and she went back in the cot til 6.30am. Then I brought her in with us and she slept until 9am!

She's only just having her first nap of the day, though
She's been fighting it since 11am!

We had a better night last night too. She woke at 11pm so I fed her but she only had a little so I woke her a little and she had a proper feed, into bed till 3, another feed, then she woke and murmured a few times but resettled herself, then awake at 4.30, 5.30 and in with me till alarm went at 7. Much better.