Jan 2014 - can we call it a sleep regression if they didn't sleep in the first place?

[Swannykazoo]

Here goes...

Thanks, Tarka :)

I did it with DS but he's now almost 15 and I'm out of practice! Also, he was 18 months old when I did it. Worked like a charm, though.

It's going to be so hard not to feed her when she wakes up in the night. I'm sure it would be too cruel to dump all feeds in the night straightaway, but I don't know what to do really

It's tricky isn't it. I felt it was kinder to commit 100% and get it to work as quickly as possible. But then again, in this hot weather maybe best to give one feed. A normally sleeps well but he woke for a feed in the night last night because of the heat I think.

Thanks. If she makes it past midnight before she wakes up I'll feed her once. Mind you, the wakings don't usually start until after midnight anyway.

Toby that sounds tough! I aww'd at your DH being too upset to go upstairs

We still have 2 hourly wake ups here too. She wants to be fed every time. Sometimes I can get away with putting her dummy in and she will go back to sleep for 30 minutes, but she will just want feeding then so it's pointless. I keep thinking about CC but I'm too chicken to try it. She doesn't cry going to bed and sometimes will go to sleep straight away if we time it right so she's not over tired. Does CC help with waking through the night or is it just for going to sleep in the first place?

Supposedly it helps with waking through the night if they have a 'bad' sleep association (like needing to be fed/rocked/cuddled/patted to sleep). I don't know if it helps with night waking if they can already self-settle.

Shit that's no good for me then!

I have no idea why she wakes up. She genuinely must be hungry but I don't know how. Before 4 month sleep regression hit she would sleep 8-11 then go back down after a feed until 6am

Apparently, a full-term, healthy baby ought to be able to sleep through without any feeds from around 5 months. Maybe it's habit with Sylvie? In which case maybe it would work because it's still a 'bad' sleep association.

I really have no idea what I'm talking about, though.

I mentioned it to the HV when I took her to get weighed last week and she said to feed her dinner alongside her breakfast and tea and that will make her sleep through. I'm totally convinced that won't make a difference.

Poor you toby

felix how many meals Henry has a day has no impact on his sleep patterns

Henry still wakes a few times through the night and I generally give him a bottle around his 2am wake up then just dummy for others. Going to start giving him water at 2am instead so he gets out of the habit

I fed her at midnight. Then she woke at 2am and I tried my hardest not to feed her but she was sucking desperately on my face/arm/whatever was closest and I felt really mean so I fed her again. Then she woke again and I ended up having to bring her in with us because she was inconsolable and I was knackered with a huge headache. Am disappointed in myself, but I don't think the storm/heat helped.

Toby it probably wasn't the best time with the heat then! Are you going to try again at some point?

Sylvie woke up every hour last night tiny bastard.

I think I'll keep trying now I've started. She's only slept 10 minutes so far today. Maybe I'll keep trying for her going to bed and then she'll naturally stop waking for feeds. Yeah, right!

So tonight only took half an hour of crying, and I got some mucking out of DS's room done (he's in Spain/France for a few weeks) while I was hovering, so double bonus.

We bought a new bed today and I am unreasonably excited. The bed is coming on Tuesday and the mattress on Wednesday. Then we'll move our old, knackered bed into DS's room because he wants a double.

I am rather attractively sitting on the sofa in my pants, drinking cider. It's so hot!

Yey Toby!

Henry goes to sleep, but wakes after an hour and is wide awake for at least another 90 mins. I tried leaving him to cry but DS1 got really upset and kept crying while saying "Baby Henry is crying! Please help him mummy" which set me off. It was awful.

Iron Man 2014 goes straight passed my house on two different roads tomorrow so I'm stuck in the house and garden. Which sucks

Aaawww, million, that would make me sad too!

How annoying to be stuck in. We've got to go to MIL's tomorrow. I'd rather stay home and get on with DS's room while DH is here to amuse Meredith, but needs must.

Toby that sounds promising! So jealous of your new bed. We have a mega amazing mattress but I'm desperate for a new frame as mine sticks out and I bash my fucking shins on it every day.

Ahhhh million that's so sweet. I'd be upset too.

Sylvie went to sleep straight away tonight but just woke up crying because some dick head outside was revving the engine on his shitty corsa right below our bedroom window. She's sweaty and quite warm so I've rummaged around for the fan just to create some air circulation in the bedroom.

Its boiling and I'm having a nightmare. Just lounging on the settee watching telly and could smell a weird eggy smell. DP said 'you've not farted and forgot about it have you? I wouldn't put it past you.' It turns out the washing machine waste pipe has disconnected and flooded the cellar with gross eggy sewage water. Barf!

We must have tested about a million mattresses today. The poor girl in Dreams (where we bought the bed frame) worked her arse off to try to find us a mattress we both liked, but in the end we found one in good old John Lewis. I think we've earned our monthly free cake from them for a while!

Felix, that sounds gross. Will it be a huge job to clean up/fix the pipe?

They are building a John Lewis in Leeds. I'm so excited!

It's been connected dodgy in the first place. It looks like a proper botch job. Waiting for our landlord to get back to us. I'm worried though as when the power went a couple of months ago, the landlord said she had 'home emergency cover' with her bank but I'd have to pretend to be her luckily it was a power cut in the area so I avoided the whole thing. If she says that again I won't know what to say. It wouldn't be a huge job but I am praying she won't try and pull that one again.

Hmmm. Difficult one. I haven't rented since I was a teenager, but I'm pretty sure they're supposed to have proper landlord insurance. I can see why you wouldn't want to make a fuss, though.

I'm not sure if there is a legal obligation for the landlord to have insurance (although she'd be an idiot not too). But she is probably committing insurance fraud if she has not disclosed she is renting to her regular insurers (and I doubt she would be covered). I'd say you just want it fixed and you'll be out of the house if she tells you when they are coming so she can get it sorted out. That way it's her lookout if she lies to them and you won't have to have any part of it. That's what I'd do anyway.

My DP said its definitely fraud. I have to be in when the plumber turns up as landlord lives in Essex so can't give anyone access. I'll see what she says tomorrow. I'm getting peed off because DP is making me speak to her when I'm rubbish with this stuff

Sylvie keeps waking up every 20 minutes tonight. I need sleep!

Hadn't heard the no more night feeds required after 5 months thing (and little puggle definitely hasn't heard!) He woke at 4 and was so so itchy despite Piriton -his wee head is covered in scratches. Am giving up having crusty in store bakery loaf at weekends as I think that might be making it worse...ssigh.
Sympathy for you all in the hot deep south though

Aww Puggle. Hope he's better soon!

Toby & Million - how did sleep go last night?

Sylvie woke up every half an hour not sure if it's the heat or what. It's still boiling here despite the storm last night. Also good news is landlord has called out a plumber to come tomorrow and not tried to pull the fraud thing again

It went well, once he went down again at about 11.30! It's just draining and feels like I'm not ever "off"

Hopefully it will be sorted soon Felix! Have you got a time frame?

Hopefully he will have the part with him tomorrow as she asked what make and model the machine is. It's scary not having a washing machine with a tiny baby