Nov 05 Babies, cryin', talkin', sleepin', walkin', livin' dolls

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Ladies, babies, and bumps, welcome to the new thread!

Should we start this off with an update from us all like last time? I thought that was nice, especially for those who get little chance to catch up.

Lol Nova. Love the bed, Noo sounds so advanced! And sling idea is v.good, found that the easiest way to get around when I had baby and toddler must agree. You sound like you're coping so well and really sorted. Has your ms gone? You sound much stronger. RE: biting, yep, same here! I'm in the Rodeo boat of going "OW" and getting the old wobbly lip response, also get lots of pinches and scratches. I feel like the biting is a mixture of curiosity/boundary testing and teething? Also I think their mouth is very sensitive and they still use it to find out information about stuff in the same way they use their hands at this age? Taste/texture etc. Sounds like you're coping with it really well btw, I think the way you're dealing with Noo when she does it sounds really good and would carry on with that method if you can, v.impressive.

GG, how's it going on the milk front any luck? Must confess am in the very same boat with this one. Tried getting up and giving her some porridge the other morning at 6 instead of bf but met with outrage and fury, porridge everywhere and back to square 1 anyhow so I might as well have stayed in bed lol......... on second thoughts maybe I'll just let her grow out of it. My fingers are firmly crossed for you though, it's b*** knackering isn't it?

ChaCha, sorry haven't a clue how much milk E is getting, but she is prob still 80% bf on most days right now. Is your hv any good? I'd say if he's eating well in the day and looking healthy you're doing brilliantly. Is Z on goat's milk at the mo then? And you want to switch to cow's, did I get that right? Aw hon, can't believe you are so heavily pg now, it's really amazing, and really interesting to hear all about it too. How about your ms, haven't heard you mention it recently, is it gone or are you being brave and not mentioning it? Great news on mil and double buggy! Ooooh, so exciting!

Hi Diege, hope you're okay?[waves]

Hi Tex, good to hear from you. Gosh, are you thinking of going out to work then, as you're interested in my CM[snigger] details?

Hi everyone else too, right must sweep the kitchen floor....... "you can do it you can do it Cinderelleeeeeeeeeee".

Meant to say, it's really helpful to know the biting is a way of showing affection, thanks.

Londoner - if I go 'OW' she finds it really funny and takes it as a cue to keep going. My face and chest are covered in little scabs from her nails (cutting them is a whole other story), and my arm has little bruises from the biting. The ms has all but gone, only sick about once a week now if I have a lay in on a saturday and don't get breakfast soon enough. Can't say I feel 100%, but it's a big difference from where I was at when pg with noo. Definitly more weighty this time round.

Hello everyone . Sorry I've not been around for a few days, but have been dealing with a puke-fest courtesy of Libby . Still bringing up bottles today, and not a happy girl at all (plus a back tooth coming through!!)
Scarlett's 4th birthday today, so trying to keep things upbeat too, for her sake .
While I remember (off subject totally!)Ikea stream concerned someone trying to flog a cot on classifieds that they were selling on e-bay, but it was overpriced to say the least (cheaper to buy new ,and she was asking £20 p&p!! Anyway, gist of stream was that she became really abusive when challenged, and the whole thing unbelievably turned into a stream about race and racism! Obviously got a bit heated overnight, hence its removal!!
Right, off to wash sick lumps off baby sleeping bag! (soz if eating your breakfasts!)

Hi Diege, poor Libby, and poor you, hope she's OK very soon. Happy Birthday Scarlett .

re biting - He obviously loves me very much! 'Ow' and 'No' are always met with the same response - a big grin, a little bit of a chuckle and dive back in for the kill! I tnd to do the same as nova, put him down or get up and walk away, although he was almost launched off my arm a couple of days ago. We were sat down, and suddenly felt this sharp pain in my arm. He'd managed to bite me through my jacket and draw blood.

Londoner, yes it is very knackering. I'd like to just ride it out, and him stop when he stops (within reason), I don't want to stop bf, but I WANT SOME SLEEP!!!! He is doing well with no milk in the mornings. DP is up at 430 for work, so its easy to time, and he does go back off laying on me.

lol nova at you 'turning into Jordan'

Owen had a bit of a problem in the playground this morning, he and his bf were playing, they were chasing the 'baddies' - 2 other boys in their class - they reached the bin, the 2 boys on one side, them on the other. I don't know what was said by anyone as I was on the other side of the playground, but 1 of the boys started punching Owen. I decided to leave it, adn have a quick word with Owen before he went in, then this boy headbutted him in the chest . I started to go over, and he carried on headbutting him in the chest and stomach, bf' dad saw too, and was coming over with me, the bf started dragging the boy off Owen. This boy then started crying, which his mum saw, and was calling him over & giving him cuddles, bf dad & I went to our boys and explained that we'd like them to walk away in those situations & that we'd seen what happened and knew it wasn't them. But I'm now worried about when I see the other mum. If she says something to me, I'm going to tell her exactly what happened, but I don't want to start causing trouble in the playground. Also, what if this type of thing hapens at playtime & the dinner ladies only see the bf dragging the headbutter away, then it'll be him and Owen getting into trouble. They won't explain what happened, they'll just get defensive. I know I'm going to spend all day worrying about it now. My mum's coming round later, hopefully she'll be able to make me see a solution to it that doesn't cause hassle.

sorry, that was long wasn't it.

Hello all[smile.

at your injuries Nova, sorry hadn't realised the severity of the situation. The way you're dealing with it so far - firm 'no' with eye contact and settling her away from you/putting her down should work eventually but I think this is what you said you were doing already? Hmm, how about distraction/changing the subject - have you tried this tactic? So the idea being you try to 'ignore' the undesireable behaviour and encourage her to do something acceptable like kissing/stroking/blowing a raspberry or something and meet it with completely over-the-top praise. So hopefully when she wants to express herself to you/make contact she remembers the way that you praised. Good luck, hth.
Diege, ugh you poor things, how horrid. I hope Libby feels better soon poor lamb and that you're managing okay. Lots of strength to you ((()))) and *HAPPYBIRTHDAYTOSCARLETT!
at IKEA cot woman!
Right off to brave the local shopping centre for stairgates......time to contain this little explorer.

x-posts GG. Poor you, I know what that's like. Try not to worry about the other mum, looks like she's in complete denial about her little 'darling' anyway[anger]. Now was Owen upset by the incident or did he cope okay? Sounds like he did okay from your post, so he can manage and has the help of a good friend too. I doubt it will happen again as this kid prob realises he'd bitten off more than he could chew. If Owen did ever get into trouble for somethinng he didn't do, a common occurance IME, you could always write your concerns down in a letter to the school. As for the kids, when that happens I always remind them that sometimes when they are naughty they don't get into trouble.

Hi all,

Well, have just braved it back from the city centre on the buses and am very pleased to say apart from the chaos of the shopping centres we did very well. No maternity departments to be found at all though, can you believe? DPs had the only maternity department in the whole of the town centre and hardly anything decent to choose from so will have to try online now...oh well!
Did have a good giggle at very old lady in Debenhams lift telling me that pushchairs should be banned from lifts and shops altogether as they are a hazard and a nuisance I could only laugh and add that maybe OAPs should be banned but she just continued to shake her head and complain - funny old lady! What if i'd been the type who would have reacted though? Made me think - another mum might not have seen the funny side.

Thank you for sharing LOs milk intake.

Londoner - No, not switching to cow's milk at all, just to goats milk in a carton rather than his formula goats milk. Wasn't sure how to make the transition to be honest..will speak to h/v too next week at drop in. MS subsided by about week 20ish but does return when i lie down after eating, try to avoid that but not always possible - heartburn, aching ribs and constant loo trips are the ailments of the day at mo! What about you? Coping minus washing machine? How are all kids?

Diege - Happy Birthday Scarlett. My friend's DD is 4 next month, i'd appreciate what you think might be a good b'day present for her. Also hope Libby is okay - what is causing the sickness? DS had this a few weeks ago with diarrhea but lasted only a couple of days thank God.

GG - It sounds like writing a letter to school is a good idea voicing your concerns. Gosh, it can't be easy - i've still all this to come School is going to hate me, i just know it!

Nova - Good to hear you are feeling so well, makes everything easier - must also be great to have some time to yourself with Noo at nursery, hope you get lots of rest. Any inclination as to what number 2 might be? I actually found out and it's exactly as i thought (secret 'yippeee') but we decided not to tell as we wanted our friends and relatives to wait - they already forget i'm PG as it is!!

Ideas needed for DS's 1st B'day pls...for the party bags especially...need to get it all done while i have help this week. Thanks, have a great afternoon all xx

very long post soz!

Hi everyone . Well, a tiring day with L poorly, constant crying, vomiting, etc etc!!! Has been in bed since 6, so hopefully will get a good night's sleep tonight. Seems like some sort of bug, with really bad cough; the other 2 have also got the coughs, but feel OK. Scarlett had a good day anyway, and is all 'crafted out' now (her main request for pressies). CHACHA: think 4 year olds are pretty easily pleased. Maybe somthing they can make for a pressie idea? We got S craft things, and also a bead-threading jewellary set, which went down very well .BTW, admire your attitude to the old woman...phew, think I would have been a little less calm...or pronbably would have been flumoxed, and then spent all night thinking about what I should have said . GG: agree with LONDONER'S advice, brilliant as always - think you handled it really well actually .
NOVA: meant to say loved the 'chav' piccy of Noo ; was there juice in that bottle .
Well, a bit anxious about what tommorrow will bring. Don't think L will be well enough for nursery tommorrow, and I have staff development thingy that I should go to (away-day thing). Of course would put L first, but can just imagine them all having a good bitch about me! Think I would gave to feign illness myself actually (isn't it sad in this day and age). DH would stay off, but I'd prefer him to do friday if necessary as that's when I teach a class.
Anyway, enough garbled rambling - what will be will be!

Londoner - At least I don't have to suffer having my earrings ripped out like DH, ow!!!! It seems to get worse when she's really tired, which at the moment is every late afternoon as she's still not sleeping after lunch. I think it feels worse than it really is, as thats when I'm most wiped out too and my tolerance level is quite low.

I don't know how I'd cope without my modern appliances, my dads partner said she had to choose between getting a dishwasher or a tumble dryer as they only had space for one. I said she should move to a bigger place and get both . Seriously - how could you choose??

GG - this is the bed I really wanted. I think you can see DH's point.

Diege - boo to sicky babies, hope things brighten up soon.

Chacha - thats a bugger about maternity wear. I've found some good stuff in Gap that isn't maternity wear but is cut in a very forgiving way. I've also raided Topshop maternity for jumpers and t-shirts.

Plucking up the courage to take noo for her MMR on friday - do they always get a bit grisly afterwards??

Noo has developed an aversion to swimming floats . She cried everytime we had to use one on tuesday.

Hello All - sorry for long absence - things are just so hectic, what with work, home, Brownies and so on1 It's just non-stop chez Brownie!

Anyway, apologies for all of the missed birthdays - nothing personal, just me being rubbish

I haven't logged onto yahoo for a while, (oh and Rodeo - I can't change or delete that photo, cos I think Bob is the folder owner - sorry!) so haven't read the Secret Santa thingy, but sounds cool, so count us in! (think I saw us already on the list - so that's good!)

Thomas is doing well - has managed around 8 steps on his own now! so is really coming on! Can't believe he will be 1 in just over a week! where did that time go!?

Diege - hope Libby is feeling better - how awful, lots of strength and hugs to you

Right, I know this is brief, but am gonna dash off now, as am shattered, and want to catch the last half of Celeb Jungle whatsit (I know, sad but hey - someone has to watch it!)

Lots of love to all of you - I think of you all often, despite the lack of posts [big smoochy kiss emoticon!]

Brownie
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Oh and a quick update re the changing bag - I opted for the Red Skip Hop duo in the end as they had 10% off and free postage!!! So couldn't pass that one up really! so cost me £45 in total, which is a lot of money - but having used it (I ordered it on the Weds afternoon and it arrived Friday first thing!!!!! I was well impressed!) I have to say, I wish I had bought it 12 months ago!!!!

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Evening girls

Happy Birthday Scarlett - phew just scraped in in time Hope you feel better soon Libby

Nova love both the beds, what more could a little princess want and you could always justify it by saying if bump is a girl it will get extra use
Re the MMR they can get a bit grumpy but then again who wouldn't after an injection, just have lots of calpol to hand and some distractions in the form of chocolate buttons - works every time. Well done you for getting the ball rolling, have got to say I'd forgotten all about the MMR this time but was obsessed with it last time

Thankfully have avoided the biting, pinching, scratching lark so far. Sure it will come though.

Thomas might not be walking unaided yet but boy can he climb, had him on the sofa with me yesterday and the next thing I new he was standing on the back of it banging on the window - the child is like a mountain goat.

Feel sorry for him at the moment though as the poor little bugger is teething all 4 molars at once, needless to say he's not a happy chappy and was really sick this morning, strangely hasn't stopped him eating greedy little monkey but he is clinging to me like a limpet.

Have caught the spending bug from you lot have just booked tickets for Peter Pan on Ice and a 3 night stay at Eurodisney for December - am I mad or what, still it's the only holiday we've had this year so I'm sure freezing my butt off will be worth it when Ben runs away screaming in fear of the lovely characters

Right best go and let my dh on to the computer have left him downstairs with my parents at the moment.

Hope everyone else is well Beks

Hello all,

But that sounds great Beks, how exciting! Lol at you on MN while dh entertains your parents, and lol lol at Tom a mountain goat can just picture him now. Hope those molars poke through v.soon, you really know it when those ones are coming don't you? Wonder if Noo has hers on the way, could explain all the biting stuff?

How are things in the Diege household today? Hope Libby feels better, have you taken the day off sick?

Hi Rodeo![waves]

How was ds at school pick-up yesterday GG?

ChaCha OMG! You know the sex of your baby! Wow! You'll need to have your wits about you now as we all try and set traps to weedle this info out of you now you know.......... Gosh you really are on the home straight now ChaCha, I'm so excited for you!

My new washing machine has arrived! Now I just have to plumb it in and get the washing done.

Hi Brownie!

Hi everyone else too, you have a nice day now!

ooh, meant to add this tip which I found on MN while looking for help on the sleep front:

• I have plugged a digital timer, into a socket with a night light in it. When the light comes on in the morning, my girls know that they can get up and come into our room. What they don't know yet, is that it's set for a later time at weekends! (Littlemissbusy)

THink it's a gem, esp for those with kids about 3 -10 age group.

Oh, love that tip!! We used to have a 'not before 7.30am' thing with Tessa but it was hard to get her to understand as she had no concept of time. She used to poke her head round our door and ask which sort of defeated the object!!

Count us in on Secret Santa - lovely idea.
JenJam & Finn
Beks & Tom
Diege & Libby
Nova & Noo
L&Smum & Seth
GG & Sean
Rodeo & Jess
ChaCha & Zayn
Brownie & Thomas
Tessasmum and Ash

Love to all. Can't post much more as sleepy baby feeding and tapping is distracting him from falling asleep!

Londoner - noo still only has 5 teeth, so I don't think it's that. They are very slow coming through.

Beks - pmsl at 'mountain goat'

DS took first 3 steps to his dad yesterday Hurray!

LOL at Beks and 'mountain goat' too. Nice to see you post again Brownie and hello to everyone else. I was thinking about Alfie's mum and Busy Alex - hopefully their LO's b'days have not yet passed, must check group later. Do any of the Londoners hear from BoB?

Londoner - How's life with new washing machine? Hope it's all working all now.

Weather here is dull and grey but made for a cosy walk through park - am now going to try making cookies, recipe looks too simple to be true! Anyone drink Douwe Egberts coffee btw?

See you all Monday x

Hi all,

Hi ChaCha, congratulations Zayn! Awwww, well in time for his 1st b.day as well, clever boy. Well, at the risk of sounding like a pagan, washing machine is bliss thank you, I am completely enamoured and what a relief no more of this fgs.

Nothing from Bob here I'm afraid, hopefully she'll check back from time to time.
Right, back to the grind, check back later!

Yay well done Zayn, what a clever lad. So Chacha how on earth did I miss the fact that you know the flavour of your bump - here's the first of those traps that Londoner was talking about - so do you still want the blue baby carrier then? I'll post it to you when I send Zayn's b'day card, can you post your address on the Y site again pls

It's sad we haven't heard from Bob for ages, she said she was going to come to T's party and I e-mailed her the details although unfortunately I didn't see it till late, hope she saw my reply. I did do Oskar a party bag thought just in case

Londoner I love all your little pictures where do you get them all from?

GG at the hassle Owen had earlier in the week, hope he gets his own back on the little rat sometime in the future

Right off to laze infront of the tv house is quiet, kids are asleep my parents are out and Dh is working late so think I'm going to purchase Memoirs of a Geisha while it's quiet, have a good w/end all Beks

Morning all,

Lol Beks, I find them on google images. Think I typed in something like '50's housewife doing washing' for that last one.

ChaCha, party bags eh? I'd use those chinese take-away self-sealing cardboard boxes and decorate them and put in a wrapped piece of cake and a thank you note with Zayn's handprint on it..... maybe some choc buttons or little car and also a balloon on a string for their pushchair. Hth.

Diege, how is Libby? Hope you're all better for the weekend.

Oh and GG, saw this and thought -if it's not you in disguise- then you might watch it with interest, or if she's in your area then maybe we could try and put her off. shhhh .

Right, off to load up my huuuuuuge new washing machine. Hope you all have a great weekend!

Hi everyone

Mum's upstairs with the boys, DP's asleep in the front room, so I'm left to my own devices!

Thanks for your tips on dealing with the playground incident. Owen was fine when he came out, although now has a huge burn on hisforehead where a yr1 boy pushed him over. He had 'golden assembly' yesterday so we were invited to go. {proud mummy emoticon]. (I think actually 1st term it's a token kind of thing so that every child gets a turn!), but still very proud.

Those big washing machines are fab aren't they Londoner. I've had mine 3 years, and only just started letting DP use it!

I had a look at that thread about the books, interesting to see others experiences and views on them. I had my 1st party yesterday, adn with a combination of pre-orders and party orders sold over £100 of books. Have also got bookings for 2 more parties & a stand at the school Christmas Fayre. I think it's good starting at this time of year becase its guaranteed to be a busy period, so keeping my motivation up!

Congratulations Zayn, there'll be no stopping him now! Although I'm sure that's the case already.

Yes, Nova, I can understand what DH means with the 'Jordanesque' bed!

Can hear them coming back downstairs, no more peace, doh!!

Morning everyone [bleary-eyed emotion]. Feeling really urghhh..L screaming at top of her lungs all night, finally settling at 4.20, then dd2 wakes 4.40...you can imagine. Really odd, as never had anything like this with dds 1&2. Libby is actually much better (diagnosed with chest infection, on antibiotics), but last night think it must have been teeth. She was also cold to touch, despite having her heater on and sleeping bag etc (room was actualy 'too' warm from grobag chart). Hoping it's just a 'blip' - how I've come to take 6 hours sleep forgranted! . Of course, dh is now back in bed despite having slept through most of it (her in bed with us , me getting her a bottle (double) -you can see how desperate I was .
Well, other than that great night. We went to see 'Mamma Mia' for a friend's 40th, and also had a nice (ish) time at dd2's 'proper' (playbarn) party.
Have to say a big thank you to RODEO for L's card which has arrived ; it's lovely, and received lots of comments from people .
Congratulations for Z's steps CHACHA, wow, very impressed and thanks everyone for all your good wishes regarding L's lurghy!
Wow GG sounds like your book business is going really well - can we buy from you, or does it have to be direct sales? (ie. face to face?)Just thinking about xmas pressies!
Well, feel a bit better for having had a rant - just hoping I can get through the day, as dh is going into work later (he took the time off last week after all), after getting suitably refreshed of course .
Right, enough moaning!