November 2012 - Walking or not walking, talking or not talking, any other skillz?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/2000561-November-2012-The-exciting-all-new-all-singing-all-dancing-fred

We have quite a range of ages and they each develop at their own rates... so what can your toddler do?

isles Been thinking of you today. Hope it all went well.

zamboni Love the raving. We also do the crocodile thing here too. E loves it, proper chuckles. I love the way you describe S and DD. I very much hope that my 2 girls will end up like that. They have moments of it so I do know there is love there. I hope you're not reading this now as you should be enjoying a nice low key night out with DH.

pass Did make me smile when you put DH was sleeping in car too!

lily Glad you feel recharged. Hope O continues to get better.

Well as of today I know have a working washing machine too so am really getting somewhere. I already miss my tumble dryer and I've only done 2 wash loads. Hanging out socks and pants to dry is sooooo time consuming.

I've just eaten a creme egg. Love em. Unfortunately it's only made me want to eat more!

The teeth they are cutting now are awful. But they seem to understand it all better. Better than the first 8 arses.

My girls have a love hate relationship. LO is now showing signs of jealousy. That's new but normal , I guess.

Hi everyone.

So sorry I've not had a chance to catch up.

All moved. New house is amazing, I really think it will make a perfect home for me and M. XP did everything to make today difficult but I think I coped okay. Feeling a bit raw but haven't and won't cry. Onwards and upwards.

Staying at my mums tonight and will likely be absent for a week or two until broadband is all connected.

Thank you all so much for supporting me and still being here when I've flaked out in the past. I know this is the right thing because, even though it hurts, I finally feel like I can breathe. Big love to all the quiche xox

Isles, you rock xx

Oh lovely Isles yes. YES. You can breathe now. Isn't it wonderful? Breathe in. Breathe out. Enjoy it. It's the beginning of a new life. When you have doubts, just breathe. In. And out. (I know this sounds like random bollocks to some of you but isles and her quiche forebears know what I mean. As do I, obviously).

We need a champagne emoticon.

Wtf mil just came in to my bedroom. I'm patting r
A in dark trying to get him to sleep. She comes in and starts talking to him. Oh your still awake. Naughty, H is asleep you sleep too. Tickle tickleo

Pls go to sleep lil baby pls

Woop isles xx

pr E is too. If DD1 sits on my lap (which isn't often) E tries to push her off. E is very clingy though, always has been and that shows no signs of abating. DD1 was clingy for one day only, I remember it clearly! She's never really given a shit whether I am there or not.

Ilse that's great! I guess I'm next to move out lol away from pil not fh.

A is wide awake. I haven't had don't yet think we are giving up on sleep tonight and going to go sit In front of tv. As soon as fh gets home. My back is killing me. Don't want to carry A

Jealousy. Oh jealousy. F is jealous of the dog, the cat, dh, dsd, in fact, anything that stands in the way of her getting to her mummy. Sometimes it is a pain but mostly I love it.

Cute moment of today - after brushing her teeth, instead of following me to her bedroom, she went over to the hand towel and delicately dabbed the corners of her mouth with it. LOVE her!

GT could you put A in the pushchair inside? It is hard work lovely, it will get easier. I do remember that Fs bedtimes didn't happen how we wanted them to until she had decided she was cool with that. She spent most evenings downstairs with us until she was probably 5mo, then suddenly started wanting to go to bed.

Awake, can't sleep thought I'd see if this is still working:

Ooh it is. to all of you :)

Aww bp that is cute! H has taken to pinching my arm. It hurts. Not so cute.

So after I gave up. I lay waiting for fh to get home. N as I pat A he fell asleep. On the bed next to me. However asleep. So I padded up the sides and left him to sleep. Not bad at all.
Given up on cot tonight. Back hurts to much. So co sleeping. And fh is on floor to give me more room. His idea. Think he feels bad for letting me vacuum.

Think I'm going to concentrate on one thing at a time. Day time naps is first task.
Then sleeping in cot. Then reducing night feeds.

Ok sleep over taking.

Night night

Ps bp pushchair lives in boot. In 7days it will live in hall way. Making my life SO much easier.

Who stole my sleeping baby. Night after nights of this is doing my head in. Surely due a good night.

Hello peeps. Up since 4 with DD2 so not too bad a night. She has a horrid hacking cough. J been up once so far, around 2ish. Briefly thankfully.

Jealousy. I have three jealous ones and only two knees. When I am changing DD2 (regression following illness) then J sits tries to lay on top of her facing up so not comfy or helpful. Lots of pushing when I have one on each knee, with DD1 looking on, broken hearted. She tries to snuggle at the side of me but gets thumped. Even when DH is home they mostly all want to sit on me. J is not overly clingy except when poorly. It has been a shit week.

My insomnia got the better of me last night. Slept v v v little.

Last night was unbelievably awful. Night weaning made no difference in the end as J was up often several times per hour screaming his head off. DH and I went to bed early, before 10, as we're both exhausted from night after terrible night, and J had woken us up three times before 11 p.m. Neither of us is going to be able to deal with another night of that, that's for sure. Ideally DH would sleep on the sofa bed tonight and I could cosleep with J, that way J would be easier to settle and DH would be able to get some sleep, but DH refuses to even consider that so it'll be neither of us getting any sleep again. J's sleep is so bad now that I would actually consider using CIO because we're getting to crisis stage here but it wouldn't work because he's in the next room and screaming too loudly for us to be able to sleep through it.

It didn't help that I had a couple of arguments with DH yesterday. Both DS1 and DS2 asked me why daddy shouts at them all the time. So I took him to task about it and he says he's going to try harder. I told him I thought he needed therapy to overcome his childhood and he gave me a row for badmouthing his parents. I only said they weren't good role models for him to be an effective parent but I suppose denial is more powerful. He said he absolutely will not consider therapy under any circumstances.

Stunt is there any way for you to try what I did with F? ie. mattress on the floor next to her cot. I didn't let her out, but she could see I was there and could hold my hand. It also meant I didn't have to be aware of dh snoring which would have induced RAGE!

7 days eh GT?? Almost down to the fingers on one hand...

VQ oh that made me sad for dd1, poor wee soul. bless her.

Plans for today have gone out the window as dh is ill. Might bugger off and leave him to it.

Is anyone else dh the WORST PATIENT EVER?? I have no patience for it. He has taken to bed, moaning and groaning. Won't even try to take a paracetamol. Then accuses me of being uncaring because I won't mop his brow. I just want to tell him to man the fuck up .

Sorry for ranting

Thanks for the suggestions sophia and VQ. Stayed in with parents but DF cooked fillet steak and I drank far, far too much red wine while exchanging work war stories (DF had a sort of comparable career choice). Head sore now though

PR and pass sounds like you had nice days.

Hi fiat

How's the back today GT?

lily glad you had time to recharge batteries. Your parents sound fab.

Hope chasing is having lots of sex a lovely birthday weekend.

isles you are amazing. For your new life xx

yw how are you feeling?

eliza must be nice to feel like you're getting there in the new house. Is there much left to do? Oh, and my DD sounds like your DD1. Has never been clingy to me. DH on the other hand...

bp what a dainty thing to do! Bless.

pikz, VQ, stunt - hugs and . stunt the not going to the sofa seems v selfish to me. What would happen if you just went to bed with J and there was no room for DH when he wanted to go to bed?

bp my DH is pathetic. To the point that I can never summon any sympathy at all because his pity party seems so self indulgent that it gives me the rage. To the extent that even when he is genuinely hurt or unwell I still can't muster a shred of compassion. I totally require sympathy though myself

VQ I have been the eldest of three, feeling slightly on the periphery because younger siblings are more demanding. Things that helped were praise for being understanding and kind, extra time with just one parent, extra privileges in compensation, sometimes a cuddle even though someone else objected. I am sure you know all this but I really remember it well.

Right. DD gone for a walk with DM, DH had a lie in so is now playing with S, I am going to have a snooze, then a walk, a roast and long journey home before back to the routine.

Have a lovely Sunday, quiche

My DH is great. If he is ill, which is rare, he goes all quiet. Which is interesting because he is quiet anyway, but it is different quiet and only I can tell what kind of quiet it is. When he had a stream of stomach bugs he took to his bed with his work laptop and worked from home I think he would only take 1 day off sick. He just gets on with it and I would like to look after him. I just leave him to it though.

Yes, when I cuddle DS1, O snuggles In too. I love it. A bit. Ore complicated with the four of them but we manage. Always room for a snuggle.

A lovely spring day here yesterday even though, officially, it is not spring we spent. Last of the day outside and even had our lunch on a picnic blanket outside.

I'm having my own pity party right now as F has done a runny poo on the cream rug

Morning all. Am shattered. Nights not so fun here atm.

Am a bit late but flouncy I hope you have a really wonderful time and really enjoy yourself xx

bplp I have one of those, I think you or someone else on here mentioned it and I got one because I didn't have it from the start unfortunately. But it is lovely to read back on and i've written down some things that there might not be space for in a normal record book. Of which I have 2. I like record books

isles you've done amazingly, really really proud of you :D Awesome stuff!

awesome re: bouncer vq and yay for chunks!

Speaking of chunks, I am having the opposite problem and E is struggling to go despite plenty of fruit etc. He was going on the toilet on one of those seats but actually is struggling now even on there. Is ok to go to gp about this isn't it? He keeps crying when he tries to go. He did go yesterday but not alot and very big/solid.

Definitely missed you zamboni good news re: s's chest :) The raving sounds awesome too btw!

Sounds like you had a lovely day yesterday pr :)

Bless her lily hope she's better soon

you can have my share of creme eggs eliza I can't stand them - so have an extra, what, 6 for me ? :)

Nearly there gt bless you!

stunt sounds like a tough situation :( I agree with you if your dh slept on the sofa bed at least one of you would get some sleep and you could try to get some sleep cosleeping with J. Hope he does try harder with the boys for everyones sake, i'll bet it's pretty stressful sometimes bless you x

Bad night here but not sure what to do about it or anything :( Been a run of bad nights for a week or so now but some of you have it far worse so I should count my blessings really. I don't know how you do it, much respect to those dealing with bad nights regularly!