March 2013 time for shoes!

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New thread ladies...

So pleased she had a good day Betty. DS honestly loves it. A bit tired at the end of his longer days but that's fair enough. The smiles and wriggles for his key workers in the morning and arms out for his 'transfer cuddle' really makes me feel good about it.

We pay £55 here! (Feeling ripped off). It is expensive yummy but yy not just you paying.
12 hour day at work today, plus commute, equals knackered shattered. betty hope you're feeling better? Am off to bed myself! Happy Tuesday ladies.

Are you in London, Shattered? I can't remember if you've said.

See Betty! She was fine, they usually are. Babies are stubborn as hell but that doesn't mean they can't adapt

It looks like we're going to be reducing ds's nursery hours. And it's the mmr here today so I've booked the day off work (is that pfb? Our surgery made a huge song and dance about baby clinic only being available on Wednesdays...).

Yesterday at nursery the key worker said she thinks he's had a growth spurt, so I'm considering taking him to be weighed and measured but I'm scared! I know he's 12kg and I'm worried they'll tell me all kinds of horror stories about big 'uns. He's bloody tall though. Is this worth the stress? I would like a hcp to see his eczema and take it seriously. But I don't want to be given a lecture about my heavy child.

So long as he's tracking his line on the weight chart there shouldn't be a lecture, Plonk. And congratulations, you have so much more baby than I do, you could make an entire newborn with the difference! Thanks for the mmr reminder. Just booked that for next Wednesday, and pre-coil swabs at the same time.

Yeah he started on the 50th. He's now on the 98th.

But not off the chart! Look at him as though you weren't his mum. Does he look in proportion, or is he of Dursleyesque proportions? Cos if he's fine, just big, then you can tell them to piss off with the lectures. They don't revoke your NHS privileges for refusing to be lectured at.

Hmmm hard to know if I just think he's bloody gorgeous no matter his size iykwim? He's 30-32 inches (up to my crotch when standing) and 12 kg. is that too big? Not that there's much I can do about it, he likes his food and eats a reasonable diet. Anyway, enough agonising, off we go

Plonk plot his height on the centile chart in his red book. If his weight and height centiles are within 25(ish) of each other he's fine. Madam started out between 50&75 for weight, dropped to below 50th & is now 91st so don't worry!

Waiting at the gps. Feels like I live here! Ds is asleep and I doubt he'll thank me for his wake up stab. Thanks Betty, I get 98th for weight aNd 91st for height. Clinics not open yet, oh dear!

Should I be worried. Betty? DD's 75th for height and 25th for weight.

But Stormy as you mentioned, she's finally started to show an appetite. Keep on keeping on, I say. We've avoided clinic again, it opens in two minutes and DS is sleeping off his jabs. He actually seemed quite chirpy afterwards maybe it was the chocolate buttons the nurse gave him

They were brilliant about his skin, the moment I showed them they fetched TWO doctors. Aveeno and bandages until further notice.

Stormy we have tracked the50th for height near perfectly since birth. His weight started just under 50th, dropped til it toyed with the 5th and has been tracking the 9th for months. It's normal for him. No ones worried. And yes our weight was 9.2kg just a few weeks ago.

Oh and plonk hope mmr went well ours is later on today.

Glad they took skin seriously too.

Nah Stormy, they nag the life out of you about short fat babies but tall skinny ones are fine! It doesn't really have much bearing on how they turn out until they're about 2 anyway if I can remember that bit of paeds properly

Southwest plonk maybe I should move oop north...
Glad mmr ok ..been waiting for our letter as with the early jabs but maybe I should be phoning up instead.

Betty glad mini betty ok at nursery. It's not nice leaving them, I still don't like it but apparently he likes it so that makes it easier.

Good luck with the coil stormy

Thank you all for the nursery advice.

plonky don't worry about ds weight. Once he is walking/running he will lose it. I love babies with chunky thighs. If you look at him and think he is ok then that is the main thing.

plonky and pud hope the toddles are well after their jabs. We had our jabs weeks ago yet our gp continues to write to us to have them done.

betty im glad dd was ok at nursery.

I hope you were all ok with the smog. I hardly noticed any difference. Dh said there was sand on his car the other night.

yummy we use a childminder and she's 35 for a full day (8 hours+) or 17.50 for half day (4-5 hours). These dahhn saaf prices are a bit more pricey!!

plonk there is nothing for any nosy nurses to lecture you about your beautiful boy!! He's the same weight (I think, it's been so long) as the toddlesome and now he's being more active all the squidgyness will disappear before your eyes and you'll wonder who this lanky baby is! So glad that his skin has been properly looked at too!

Our MMR resulted in a very happy sleepy boy the day after and a very grumpy non-sleepy boy the day after that. Thankfully, he was at the childminder's so I didn't get the full force of grump. Just the odd bit of jam-smearing in hair and spitting out milk. That's the best

I'm feeling the smog today. Smog in the air, smog in my mood. I just spilt coffee down my shirt at work, and it's not even 9am! It's Thursday, what's Thursday? Wine Thursday? It's been wine everyday for me this week!

I'm at the office today and also feeling the smog Somefink (I think that's your dahn saaf nickname). At least it was only coffee you spilled, and not something truly delicious like nutella or PB.

I have to approach my parents about the possibility of working compressed hours and starting a voucher scheme. I'm sure they'll be flexible, I just hate having such grown up conversations. Still, easier to broach the subject with people I know on a human level, as opposed to a nasty boss.

Thanks all for the weight reassurances. It's so difficult to notice these things when you're with them all the time - for me at least.

All quiet on the Eco front...are you surviving the Great House Hunt?
You too Gerry, all ok? Have you gone quiet because it's Easter soon?

DS is making me ultra broody again, with his big eyes, his winsome laugh and hilarious behaviour. He was very cuddly this morning, probably an MMR hangover. The nursery staff were delighted.

At the risk of sounding like a petulant child, can I just say, I don't want the copper coil, I want another baby. One of my cousins is due next week, and another cousin just announced his girlfriend's expecting. Not fair, mutter grumble mutter.

Plonk, I only notice how skinny DD is when other mothers of similarly aged babies pick her up and exclaim about how light she is. To me she looks just right, although my objective brain suspects she probably looks like a lollipop, with that great big head, and limbs so skinny they don't have fat-creases.

Stormy I felt quite sad about getting my coil fitted. I'm desperate to expand our family so making the decision to get a big one, it seems more Serious than the pill - probably because it's invasive and you can't take it out yourself. You can't just come off the coil like you do with the pill. BUT, and this was my motivation, now is not the right time for us to make any other kind of decision. I would like to be pregnant this time next year on the basis that next year will be incredibly different to right now.

And you can't have a fag and when you're on the pregnancy. But you can when you're on the coil.

It's strange isn't it, our babies accept us as we are and we accept them as they are. Kinda perfect really.

You can have a fag and a wine when you're pregnant, Plonk. So long as it's just the one. And I'm off the booze anyway. The trouble is my bloody morals. If a coil goes in, I can't have it removed unless the man agrees. So I worry that if I get it, there'll never be another baby. And as for timing, it's only DD's age that makes me think wait a bit. If another baby happened I'd cope (because I'd have to). I just don't want to wait years - I want my children to be adults by the time I'm fifty, so I don't risk putting teenagers through my mother's illness. Why do I have morals? It would be so much easier if I didn't have them, I could just lie about my contraceptive status. Can't lie about getting the coil though, you get pregnant with one in and they do an early scan to see where it is, and you can't fake a scan. It's possible I've thought about this too much...

Ah I couldn't stomach even a drop of booze when I was pregnant. It was a real treat to have to pour away the 'dead' tasting wines at work for those seven months. And I forced myself to stop smoking, just one in the 'jesus christ' moment I had when two lines appeared instead of one, and then none until he was 8 weeks old and I was at the end of my tether. Really need to knock that habit on the head, pronto.

I understand not wanting to have younger children the older you get - I think regardless of any future problems lots of people think this way. I get that it feels shit right now though, but it sounds like you're just managing to communicate properly with the man, and that you're laying down some vital relationship foundations. Would this really be helped by an 'unplanned' pregnancy?

We're seeing how things go relationship-wise. What if it doesn't go well? What if it all goes tits up before dc2?

Stormy the coil sounds like an eminently sensible plan as it won't mess with your body like the pill, and will give you and DP some breathing space to sort out your relationship without throwing another baby into the mix. From what I've been lead to believe, two is a whole different ball game to one, as when one sleeps the other doesn't

Me, I'd like another baby too, but it won't be happening, so I am going through the slightly depressing process of sorting out all my baby stuff for SIL. For some stupid reason I am muttering away deep down about the injustice of being expected to give it all away. I want to keep some. I don't know why... nostalgia maybe, but I can't as SIL needs it. Can I join you on the grumble bench Stormy?

Nursery fees here are £24 for 9am-1pm, and that includes lunch but not nappies or wipes. It seems like good value when it's only two mornings a week. 5 full days would smart though.

On a glamorous note (not) I've just ordered some god awful looking girdle plus a video of exercises to help with the stomach muscle separation, as a last ditch attempt before I think about surgery. The baby belly I can cope with, as it's not like I'm 22 and itching to get back into a bikini, it's the lack of core strength and subsequent permanent back problems that are getting me down. It's funny because I read about rectus diastasis when I was pregnant and discounted it as something that would only happen to 'other people'. A bit like SPD. I got both. Sucks huh!

Hope the sun is shining with you and has burnt off the smog moods.

Worse hello and sorry that sorting through the baby stuff is hard. I find it hard too. What I have done is label everything and say I'll have it back further down the line. As well as keeping some special things of course; that's the law! You have to keep first booties, first hat and first baby grow don't you? Good for you on taking action on one of the baby induced ailments. I really must do something about my pelvic floor. It sucks to high heaven. Girdle sounds schexy. Hope it helps.

Stormy, as an old bird with plenty of spirit, I agree with Worse. Coil it up for now (6 months down the line mine seems to have settled and is doing just the job) and for now enjoy DD and mend, or move on from, your relationship. Having a baby a few years down the line (maybe with another man who likes lace) and you'll still be a young Mum. My Mum and her Mum before her died aged 66 and ecotod will be late twenties when I reach that age. I'd rather have her, nurture her, teach her about life and how to be an independent woman, love her ferociously and develop a beautiful relationship than not IYSWIM. You have all sorts of excitements ahead of you. As do we all.

Plonky I stalk your DS on FB because he is TOO cute. I have never thought he looks heavy or out of proportion. He looks gosh darn delicious. I love ALL of our babies of course, but there is something about the boy ones. Maybe it's because I have a girl one.

Shattered hello! Your long day and commute sound hardcore. Are you recovered? I forget how many days a week you work? Is it working out ok for you? I did a short day on Tuesday (6 hours) but had a ridiculous 2.5 hour commute. BOTH sides! I am a nutter. Not doing that again. Not unless it's for serious amounts of money.

Betty you rock. Your brush with vom sounded like you'd got an eyelash in your eye. Right here, right now is everyone well? And, how's the sleep going? I think we have serious multiple canine/molar teething going on. She's like a shark at present. And it's bloody insane to attempt the feat of applying bonjela. Wounds every time! This affected sleep last night. Multiple wake ups not far apart. Does everyone else resort to calpol for teething pain?

Yummy what did you decide re: childcare?

Something, Thursdays are Thirsty Thursdays to follow on from Wine Wednesdays yes? So wine is appropriate. Plonky DH got me a nice new Vouvray from Waitrose (it's posh down here in Bloody Bedfordshire) and it's delicious. Never did find that one in Aldi :-(

So, the house you all favoured, sadly, is not to be for us. At the time we couldn't make the figures work and now we have made them work a bit better it is Sold. But my heart was always with the wreck house that is too small but with divine garden potential in a great village community. I'm just about to phone the agent. We met a builder there last night and I'm going to make an offer before he comes back with his quote I know we won't be able to afford it Wish me luck!