November 2012 - The last few first birthdays then we're on to Christmas

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1906769-November-2012-Isnt-age-one-a-lot-of-fun

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

(((Hug you back ))) gt

[YellowWellies]

Stunt best quiche thread title yet. That made me laugh out loud.

Thanks also for your observation that J slept better with more BF during the day. I tried to get 2-3 more BF into Jonas yesterday and his sleep was much improved. He was also well chuffed at getting lots of feeds! I need to remember that he's wee and whilst other bigger babies are self weaning - he's just not there yet. It doesn't help that if you BF past one a lot of small minded folks suddenly get very negative about it. I should just ignore their advice and remember that science isn't on their side .

I'm feeling really rough today, fluish, achy joints, knackered

[PetiteRaleuse]

soph you need to not apologise for blowing your own trumpet then.

Your routine makes a lot of sense. We're starting to think about trying to get dd1 to go to bed in her own bed again. It has to happen before LO gets wind of her cosleeping with us... It's just really hard sprting out a routine when DH can get home anywhere between 7 and 10pm.

The morning and post nursery routine are sorted, it is just bedtimes for both which is a trouble. I don't think I can ever aim for the 12 hour nights some of you get. LO does sleep through most nights, but 10 hours is the norm.

sophia you are right to be confident in your parenting abilities, your xh sounds like a twat. It takes a long time to rebuild shattered confidence

[ditsygal]

How many babies have dropped to 1 nap? I think F is doing that. After my earlier post about biting. I refused to carry on getting him to sleep when he was biting this morning, so put him down to play again and tried later. He ended up napping 10.10-11.35. (usually it would be 9.30-11ish) So I know he won't want his afternoon nap now but hoping we can just do some cuddle/quiet time and that will see him through until bedtime. He didn't have his afternoon nap yesterday either. So I think its on the way out, but keep wondering if it is too early?

[PetiteRaleuse]

LO generally has one nap at lunchtimes on weekends. During the week at nursery she has two naps of 45 to 90 minutes and in the baby group they are free to sleep as much as and when they want. When she moves up to the next group in January she will move into a toddler routine of one nap a day after lunch at pretty much set times ie bedtime at 1pm but up to 3 hours nap. She is the oldest one in the baby group now so next to move up. When she moves up to the top group next September it will still be one nap at 1pm but in theory will be limited to two hours, though DD1 has been knoc to be allowed to sleep almost four hours

French kids nap once at school too, up to the age of 5/6. DD1 wil be starting next September at 3.6 but for the first two years will be encouraged to have a shortish nap after lunch.

[PetiteRaleuse]

LO will be starting school the year after at 2.10

[Zamboni]

sophia do not apologise. Well done for having that confidence. FWIW I totally agree with you. With DD I second guessed everything, it took some time to trust in myself. S has been much easier because I have confidence in me!

msJJ sorry, I didnt mean to sound critical, I quite agree with what you said, and the costs etc mean my advice to my own DC will be to only do FE if it is actually required, and pick something which will bring that security. But it is a shame that the arts in particular will suffer, I think.

flouncy I cant imagine how hard it will be. But do wonder if, as GT and others say, whether if you give it a really good go, and it doesnt have any impact after 7 days, whether that will push the onus firmly back to the HCPs to suggest an alternative?

YW you're doing tremendously. Keep on and dont be troubled by the people who have a problem.

Our routine is quite similar to sophia's. Also GF based, adapted for what works for us which includes one of us being able to put both DC to bed while the other works. The routine is for me, I need to have something reliable and which I can use to plan us both working around.

[ChasingDaisy]

Have only skim read but your description of how your XH made you feel is exactly how XP behaved. Everything I did with O was wrong. But the tables have turned now

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

pr that is early.

Phew for everything else.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

ditsy E only has one nap and has done since she was probably around 7/8 months old. So no, I don't think it's too early at this age.

[ChasingDaisy]

Ok, I've caught up now.

Naps. O has one nap at 10am for 20mins max. I am very strict about this and wake him after this time. I think this nap will be dropped within the next couple of months. Then he has his main nap after lunch. Goes down between 1:30-2 and sleeps for 2 hours max. No later than 3:30. He can't self settle yet though so I am still rocking to sleep. Although he does self settle during the night thankfully.

I also have a strict routine, similar to Sophia. I like having control over our day and O knows what to expect and when. I hope it gives him a sense of security, especially as he spends time with his dad as well. I like him to know that home is home and things will happen in the order that he expects them to. It might benefit me more than O but it seems to be working.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

chasing

[ChasingDaisy]

Things in brackets don't show up on my phone Sophia but I am going to assume you said something nice

Had a really good driving lesson today. I feel so much more confident now and I am making progress. Quite proud as I have been putting off learning to drive for years.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I think chasing if you like some semblance of routine then that is the way to go! Me and DH are quite routiney ourselves so it works. I agree that it provides a level of security for them as they know where they are and what will be happening next.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Of course I said something nice chasing it was a father Christmassy grin!

[ChasingDaisy]

Are there Christmas emoticons now? The iPhone app is shite.

[fruitpastilles]

I had no idea either chasing until I just clicked the new thread link and it took me to it through safari. We miss out on seeing so much on the app.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Mobile site is far far far better than the app. I lasted all of ten minutes on the app

[ChasingDaisy]

Think it might be time to delete the app.

Just had the cutest Tesco delivery guy ever. In fact the cutest guy ever. And he was good with O. Swoon.

[fruitpastilles]

I like the app for quickness but yes the mobile site is sooo much better.

[FlouncingIsles]

I survived my first day

But am fucking knackered. Not helped by 7 wake ups last night. P dealt with them but I was awake.

This time last year I had been in labour for 15 hours If only I knew I had another 15 to go...

[ChasingDaisy]

QQ: Can I use granulated sugar instead of caster sugar for shortbread?

[StuntNun]

Yes. If you have a food processor you can put the sugar in for a quick blast to make it finer or just use it as it is if not.

[PurplePidjin]

R has set his own routine but he's quite strict about it. Awake 6:30-7, breakfast with daddy then bf 7:30. Nap around 10:45 for 40 minutes, lunch 12-12:30ish, nap at 2 for 40 minutes, dinner at 4:45, bath 5:15, bf 5:45, asleep at 6. Atm he poos in the night so nappy change then back to sleep. Naps are rarely in the cot as it's easier to fit travelling around them - groups here end around 11 so he sleeps in the sling on the way home, or he has it early driving to the shops then later driving home. Today he had his morning one in the pushchair walking to my mum's village and his afternoon one on the way home from Sainsburys for example.

Chasing yes. Substitute 1oz ground rice for 1oz flour for a nice crunch too :) awaits flaming by haggisers

[ChasingDaisy]

Thanks