November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

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And I think I would prefer to be home with mummy too. What a hard one. You can only go with you gut instinct on what is right for them.

L doing the impression of the perfect baby today. Amazing. I have got so much done and sorted. Most importantly have had an amazing time with him. With no whinging, crying or anything. Just awesome day. Am writing this so when I look back I can see we had amazing days when I am having a truly crap one.

I wouldn't. There is far more for her to do there, it is much more interesting. Remember we don't have baby groups here, so other than take her out pottering there is nothing I can do with her, as I know no SAHM. She is far better off at nursery, I just hope she realises it before we give. I am a much better SAHM when there are no children at home. But if it really is too distressing I will of course stop it.

I just took her to the shops and she screamed hysterically as soon as anyone stopped to chat to her. She was not like that before :(

Oh peaches that is difficult. I guess if you can see improvements, however small, it is worth persevering with? She won't remember this time and it sounds although it will be worth it in the end. Glad DD1 is settled though . Have you seen her benefit from nursery?

So, a better day here today. Kicked off with a lovely package and card from peaches which made me cry. Took O to our first group at the children's centre today. He rode forward facing for the first time which he loved - chatting the whole way there to goodness knows what. I felt a bit odd though. My baby is growing up. The last time we went to a baby group like this was 3 months ago and he was very shy and clingy but he totally surprised me today. He was the most confident, chatty, smiley baby in the room. Goodness knows how he got so confident but I was so proud. There was another baby there with the same date of birth as O and I got chatting to some nice mums. As it was the first session of term there were some other newbies which was nice. There was an 8 month old who was the spitting image of your R pjdj

I have also just come off the phone from booking my first driving lesson. Drivers of MK, you may want to avoid the roads at 10am on 7th Oct

Although I wont actually be let loose on proper roads will I?

I had my first lesson on a quiet housing estate, so it won't be too scary chasing

DD1 has already started to change since going to nursery. She's grown up very quickly, is pretty tired but obviously loves it. And her speech is better too. She is thriving, apart from the snottiness.

That's brilliant about DD1. I popped into the local nursery today (attached to the children's centre/primary school). Am thinking about starting O at a session a week at some point before his first birthday. That's when I hope to go back to work and I really think it will help his confidence.

Thank you for the good luck :)

Did half a day today. I feel fucked. I'm aching all over, but mostly in the fanjo . Which is ridiculous. I didn't actually do any clinical work. Just updated on changes, sorted out shifts for the next 6 weeks, annual leave, return to work and risk assessments. I'm not very happy with my work but I'll update that on FB.

Of course - the inevitable happened last night. O spent 2 hours screaming just after I had gone to bed. Then started screaming again at 6.30. So I think I got maybe 4 hours sleep by the time I calmed down enough to actually sleep.

I just typed a long moany post about the rest of my day, but you know what. It doesn't matter in the grand scheme, does it?

Thanks for the reassurance about O! I have been watching him and I think he does show some signs of SA, but only if there is no one else in the room when I leave. He is content enough if someone is around. Unless it is me he specifically wants. Which he does. So I guess it isn't as severe as some, but must still be there. Will keep watching .

I'm still torn over the childcare options. I like the idea of MIL having him as I know he will be loved and fussed over.

But I am finding it hard to not ask too many questions. If that makes sense.

For example, on Friday when we did a test run, he came back with a graze on one side of his head, and about 5 small bruises on his face, all the same size and shape. I'm pretty sure he must have kept banging his face on the same thing. But I was hoping MIL would have told DP what happened so if we were asked, we would know. I don't feel comfortable asking, as I feel it is accusatory almost?

Today he has a sore bum, I want to ask MIL was it like that this morning. But feel I can't. Where as I would just ask a CM straight out, as it is more business like.

I just feel like I need to know everything, as his mum, and that I don't like not knowing things.

Does that make sense? I know it is silly, as we have free childcare. Guess I'm being glass half empty here!

No Det YANBU to want to know how he acculmelated his bruises and bumps and sore bum...perhaps ask him in a sing song voice infront of her " ooh what have you done to your face?" Or if DP collects he MUST ask her.

I would ask anything you would ask a childminder but with a smile and far more casually. You are massively lucky to have free childcare of course, but at the same time you do kind of need to know about bumps and bruises. With the red bum you can say something like I noticed his bum is a bit sore, do you think we should put more cream on it. Asking for her opinion will flatter her. It's not manipulation but it's just careful if you are worried about being too confrontational.

Last time it was DP who picked him up, and he said he would ask her. But he hasn't.

I'm not concerned - but I wanted to get him weighed this week, and think it would look odd if I don't know how he got 5 bruises and a graze to his face. So just want to know so I can answer if asked!

His sore bum is less of a concern, pretty sure it is due to teeth, but as a parent of a really little one, you feel you should know!

DD1 has been learning manners at nursery. She keeps shaking my hand and saying Bonjour. They don.t let her leave until she has waved bye bye at the group either. And instead of coming and kissing me on the lips she sticks her cheek out and air kisses me on both cheeks, French style. It's so cute but a little disconcerting.

Peaches that sounds rough. Separation anxiety? I would be tempted to try lo again in a couple of months

Ooh, R has a twin?!

Glad you had a good one, Pikz :o

We had a nice day. All the "bigger" babies turned up to feeding group, normally R is the oldest. Swapped numbers with a couple i haven't seen very often - including my friend due next month whose house has just flooded, bringing down her 2yos ceiling which may contain asbestos. I'm seeing her tomorrow to lend her my maternity clothes and might go through R's toys to see if there is anything for her ds. They're living in hotels, don't always know if they'll have somewhere to stay that night, and can't take anything from home in case of dust my mum's just checking my hand-me-down bag that lives at hers for clothes that might fit her ds. What a nightmare!

Yes, I think separation anxiety. I will lose the place if I withdraw her, so need to be sure re work etc. At the end of next week I will consider the options.

God that must be a nightmare pidj bad enough at any time but awful when pregnant :(

I know I've got jeans, linen trousers, 2x leggings, 2x tights, 3x nighties, 2x tunics, a frock, a lightweight jumper and half a dozen tee shirts. Not all maternity but fitted me all through and won't mind a bit of stretch. Plus a few toys and some books R isn't quite old enough for yet. Plus an age 2-3 designer jumper i got in a car boot recently that might do. It has a spider on, her ds is a spiderman fan! I thought about a charity shop trawl but really can't afford it

Beans and mashed potato is a perfectly reasonable dinner? Or have I just burned my mumsnet membership?

Glad today was ok det. I was so confused reading your post as while I was reading it I got a text from a colleague which appeared at the top of the screen. I was reading it and then skimmed onto your bit about having a sore fanjo. I was all why does he have a sore fanjo?

Do they have insurance?

pp that sounds awful. I would have thought ss would have been able to help in some way. Although maybe not

Oh pidj how awful. I hope she has insurance?
pr I think O would behave the same way as your little one, she is not happy with lots of other people and with people she doesn't know. She is friendly but if she can't touch me than she becomes tearful.
det I would ask MIL. you want to know what happened. I always ask my mum about things, she doesn't take it as an offence thankfully.

chasing way to go with driving licence. Thankfully I will still be in Hungary on the 7th ;).

We are back in the UK on the 10th Oct for 2 weeks and planning to meet up with chasing either on the 16th or 18th. Anyone wants to join us and make it a quiche meeting?

I had a bad day today, not sure what triggered it. Just felt so down. But it's over now, I feel much better. I texted a mum I met last week and we are meeting up tomorrow morning with the kids. There is a 'neighbouring' day on Saturday in the complex where I live, the management company organises it to meet each other. I actually can't wait, will be nice to meet some of my neighbours.

And dishwasher is getting fixed on Friday afternoon. I'm debating whether to just use up all my plates from now on or still do the washing up .

PP how awful. You are being an amazing friend.

Ginger I really hope she settles soon. I'm dreading starting Ls settling in for those reasons.

Lily big hugs

Chasing can't wait to hear about lessons!

J is asleep. We did controlled crying and he cried for two and a half minutes before falling asleep. Beginners' luck perhaps? Let's see how the midnight screamathon goes before we start counting our chickens. According to the Troublesome Tots website we were doing it all wrong so there have been some major changes today. Currently trying to get DS1 and DS2 to bed without waking J.

What do you mean you were doing it wrong?

I've just read that link stunt S has become increasingly difficult at bed time and throughout the night. I do lots of the things on the list, ie; still feeding to sleep (well used to until she decided sleep is for the weak) she has a dummy and I rock her. I am going to definitely have ago at changing the bedtime routine for a week and see what happens. It can't get much worse than it is now. She's only just gone down. This is the baby who used to go down at 6:30 reliably every night and sleep until 5:30 with just one dummy wake up. Now she wakes up about a million times and has started ending up in our bed, just so I can get a few hours.

Interesting stunt on the give bottle 20 mins before bed. He always has his bottle last. Wondering should we move this? He seems to have lost all self settling capability.