November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1833979-November-2012-Teeth-Dont-talk-to-us-about-teeth

I don't want to upset the apple cart on that one - and I don't want to say anything because if I do I KNOW I will jinx it and it will all fuck up.

But... the last thing I do is feed him, sometimes he falls asleep with the bottle. Sometimes not.

Do you remember the last time I moaned/worried/whinged about rocking a gigantic baby? It's been a good few weeks now.

It's working for us. I didn't change anything or do anything different. O just 'got' it.

If he hadn't just got it all of a sudden, I'd probably give the change a go though.

For us, it seems (bar teeth) the sleep/self settling/sleeping through the night/sleeping til a reasonable after 7 time in the morning all happened together.

I am so hoping whatever you are doing tonight works Stunt. Please please please post your tips on FB in case Izzy doesn't see it! :)

Pidg that was awesome sleep from R last night! :)

Also, wow, how tough on your friend. Is she insured? I really hope so.

Sounds like a good start Stunt. Like Det, L seems to have 'got it' in the last few weeks. Don't want to jinx it but he seems to have been able to self-settle a few times before I've got to him, not all the time but enough to give me hope. Anyway I hope very much you have a good night and it is a turning point.

L had his check today, he's 10.5mo now and the HV was very happy with his development and probably quite weary with enthusiastic pfb mum listing all his achievements . His weight is now on the 50th centile! Unbelievable considering he was so far below the 0.4th and his weight was such a worry for such a long time. He is 9th for height which has increased, I hope he grows to be a reasonable height as he has a tall daddy and v tall relatives which I think could be hard if he turns out to be a shorty. I am 5'3" so I'm sure he'll blame me if he is!

Eliza I hope E is doing well on the powder you're adding to her food, I always think of you when we have a weigh in.

DH has been 'babyproofing' but has chucked all the stuff he's moved on to the dining table. I am trying to smile nicely

Hello all,
chasing glad to read your feeling better.
det sorry to red your work is not good.

Nick has been wonderful today. His behavour has been amazing. The only down side is my tongue has been stinging all day. It's just the tip and the sides.

Evil

Det I'm with you a wee bit - our sleep went totally to pot for about 2-3 weeks right on cue for the 9 month sleep regression and we have changed NOTHING night time routine and it's better than it ever has been (only had two wake ups last night due to teeth) but normally he's down at 8pm and up for the day after 7.30am (and this morning up after 9am!) with one waking a night maybe 3 nights a week and sleeping through the rest. So for many of the wee ones once they get through this regression they could sleep better than they ever have, IF the regression is the issue. We do all of the no-nos on that list - feed to sleep, feed on demand in the night, have never left him to cry and rock and sing him to sleep if needs be and if that's the 'wrong thing' then damn the results are worth it (and maybe I should start a counter site saying it's the 'right thing')! I don't like sites that tell you you're doing parenting wrong as there is no one size fits all and they just undermine folks confidence and trust in ourselves. What I'm trying to say is don't panic if your sleep has suddenly gone to shit, rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater and changing stuff that has previously worked, then maybe bear with it for a few weeks to get yourself through and you may well find that everything rights itself as they emerge out the other side of the regression anyway?

PP your poor pal - that's awful.

My cousin and his Mrs are at the labour ward round the corner from us tonight after being induced... fingers crossed the bear will have a new cousin by the time we wake up. There's been a few health scares around this baby (weekly scans as there appears to be twice as much fluid as there should be and there are worries about problems with the babies oesophagus) so please all keep yer fingers and toes crossed.

I forgot to add I love watching breaking bad. But what's the deal with the pink bear?

Evil

Pass That must have been a very odd image .

Men having fanjo's. Bit odd .

MsJJ that's fantastic

Stunt R just "got it" with help from my hybrid method last week. Work and him suddenly needing an earlier bedtime fucked it up but he's there again now i hope. Down at 6:15, resettled at 6:45, not a peep since. I suspect separation anxiety for the 4am screamathon, plus teeth niggles. Hopefully he'll soon drop it/grow out of it :)

Evening all!

E has been very cuddly today, made me wonder if he's coming down with something as he usually likes a quick cuddle but he sat with me for a good 10 mins being cradled. Odd! Enjoyed the cuddle anyhow!

Bless her pr :( she really is finding it tough isn't she :( I hope things settle down for her and she starts to enjoy it as it sounds like she would benefit from being there in the long run.

Glad today was a better one chasing :) o sounds a complete delight! My first lesson was on a quiet housing estate too :)

det I would definitely want to know, just because!!! I always ask when e has been at mils or my mums but usually they'd tell me anyway probably cos if they don't I ring them lol. Glad today was ok :)

Aw pidj that sounds really tough, ESP since she's pregnant too, gosh what a nightmare! Lovely of you to help out though

Hugs lily glad you're feeling much better now. If I weren't such a social retard I'd love to meet you guys

Hope you have a good night stunt

Sounds like l is doing brill jj!!

N sounds like a treasure evil :)

Everything crossed here for your cousin and partner yw :)

I have read but cannot possibly comment on everything in the time I have to post!

Good luck with the move pennie

Thanks for the "Next" tip pikz - I have been looking online for some cheapie winter bits with no luck so that's good to know. And I have Next voucher!

Cuddles to Piglet bplp - hope she's feeling better.

I am currently in the Netherlands with a bit of a crap Internet connection, hence the lack of posting. I do miss catching up on what you're all up to when I miss a day or two.
I know am guilty of moaning when I don't really have much to moan about so I apologise for that, and I promise to stop

I had to change a stinky nappy earlier and commented to DP that it was "the mother of all nappies" How wrong was I?! About 2 hours later she produced another one that took both of us to contain, a shower and a complete change of outfit. It was down both legs and into her socks Lucky she's cute really :)

Waving at kirrin and Kyz.

Off to Bedfordshire with me. Hoping for another successful sleep but we shall see.

We've never had good sleep YW but now that the reflux and egg allergy are controlled it seems to be an appropriate time to start sleep training. Lily the website I linked to isn't prescriptive, but basically the advice from it was ditch the dummies and stop feeding to sleep. So J had bath - pjs - feed - teeth - sleeping bag - story in cot - night night and left without a dummy. Previously he would have finished his bedtime routine being fed to sleep then transferred to his cot with the dummy in. Day 1 of controlled crying starts tonight. Hopefully I won't be a sobbing mess tomorrow morning!

Sounds really tough pr. DD1 has been a dream to settle at any nursery/pre school she has gone too. BUT E is a completley different kettle of fish and as DH put's it, is a mummy wuss. So I'll be interested to see what she's like when it comes to settling in nursery. I really hope she get's it in the next week or so.

JJ That's fantastic about L. Well done him and give yourself a big pat on the back too. E is eating well so hopefully the powder will give her the calorie boost she needs.

GT Hope you're ok. Can't believe how close you are to due date. Time flies.

kirrin Enjoy the netherlands.

det Glad today went well.

pp How awful. Sounds like you are doing all you can. You're a good friend.

lily and chasing I'd so like to join you on a meet. But DD1 will be at nursery so I'll need to arrange for someone to look after her for a bit and drop her off. I'd quite happily take her out for a day but she's starting a new nursery and they are really strict about time off. Wankers. I think I should be able to decide when I take my child out of nursery. Anyway, I'm digressing, will see what I can do!

Took the girls swimming today which seemed to wipe them both out. DD1 asked to go to bed at 7pm, and E wasn't far after. Will take them more often if that's the result.

stunt Good luck. I am crossing everything for you and throwing tons of sleepy dust J's way.

Oh and meant to say yw Am sending masses of positive vibes your way. I really hope all is ok and look forward to hearing the news.

Right, memory of a sieve tonight obviously. I shall take myself to bed. Night all x

DD1 my nap dodger did a three hour nap at nursery. It is now almost midnight and she is chatting away. Thanks nursery. Will be telling them to cut it down to 90 minutes max tomorrow. I wish she'd nap so reliably for me. She has spent the evening telling me all about nursery. Well, showing. Her favourite toy there is the mini kitchen with plastic dishes and food. I wonder where she gets that from.

Sending positive vibes to yw's cousin. Am sooo glad that is never going to happen to me again. I was induced with dd1. Got epiduraled very quickly (the norm here) and ended up emcs anyway. Trying 'naturally' was a last minute decision.

Are you on work or hols kirrin ? Is it as damp there as it is in the rest of Benelux? Feeling v autumnal here. Did mac 'n' cheese this evening to celebrate the cold weather :o

Oh and good luck stunt I have very firmly crossed my fingers for you

Evil pink teddy. Can't tell you with out spoiling it. Lol

Stunt thanks for that link. Lo is going to bed later n later recently. Never had a routine. He doesn't bath every day. There is no space in his room for a chair. So story time is hard. Could do it in my room I guess.
Something to consider ASAP. Before bump arrives!

Chasing also considering starting lo at day care attached to the sure start for 1or2 sessions a week. Benefits -

• time alone for me with baby

-social interaction for lo

• full time day care next year won't be such a shock
• I get out of the house lol to drop/pick up.

I'm the higher earner and with 2nd year of maternity pay we dont have alot of disposable income. But FH agrees that it's money well spent.

So much to think about.
Random thought. Must add bake well tarts to my hospital snack bag list

GT when I was 8m pregnant with LO I put DD1 into nursery four mornings a week including lunch until LO was 5 months old. It really helped me bond with LO and have the energy for DD1 the rest of the time. Despite the winter illnesses I don't regret it at all. Well worth thinking about.

I gave LO a bath today. First time I have done it. DH normally does baths. My back is wrecked.

Oh and need advice on blood tests.
FH has said a few times that lo is a lil bow legged. But we dismissed it as he has very chunky legs.
At gp today we bought it up. So dr wants to check for rickets. Cue X-ray and blood tests.

I have to wrestle lo to wipe his nose, how do I get him to sit still for blood rest and X-ray.
I'm even more worried about X-ray as I won't be aloud to go in. So need to give FH as much advice as possible before hand.

As with giving calpol FH thinks best way is to pin down arms and force open mouth. However lo is alot better if u just distract him with a toy and then will happily open mouth and take small amounts slowly with no problems. I try to model this for FH rather then moan at him. But worry he will revert to pinning down during blood test/X-ray and upset lo. Am I being all pfb?

I'm on hols peaches It is very damp indeed! Luckily there are several indoor options here :)

Gt - sorry to hear about your worries. Do his bit drops have vitamin d?

Dd has had to have lots of bloods and x-rays. She hates them. I am usually very gentle and pfb with her but usually find a firm cuddle/ hold the only way for them and kindest as it gets them over with most quickly. I sing to her too. With the bloods ask them about ametop / magic cream to numb the area. The x-ray will be very quickly but dd is scared of the machine. I would get dh to check it is in position before lo lies down so it doesn't move on top of him (this panicked dd at her first x-ray and I think is why she is still scared now). G has to have his first x-ray next month too as he is now too big for ultrasound for his hip checks. Hope all goes well for you results wise.

J did 8-4.45 and I did 10.45-4.45. He went back in his cot after his usual 4ish feed and slept until 6.50 although he was scratching his eczema the poor wee thing. So we survived day 1! Two more nights before DH heads to the US for a week. Is there anything I should get him to bring back that's cheaper there? He has Saturday free. I was wondering about an iPod for DS1's birthday.

GT H should be getting enough vitamins from formula but it would definitely be worth giving vitamins as well. My DH is bow legged and he has to be careful buying trousers or they can look a bit odd. Also I would say you definitely need to establish a bedtime routine for H. It's not necessarily an issue now but when he's a toddler then the bedtime battles will begin. My DS1 is 10 and he still has a set bedtime (in bed for 8.30, lights out at 9) and a bedtime routine (no screens after 7.30, PJs on at 8 then some milk and toast or biscuits and a book - although he reads his own bedtime story now). Having a bedtime routine programmes children into going to sleep when you want. If you do it right then they almost can't help going to sleep after their bedtime routine is over - toddler battles notwithstanding.

Well done J and stunt.

I got frustrated and cried at 2.30 after an hour and a half awake screaming. I am just at a complete loss. It doesn't happen every night.

stunt that sounds like a big improvement.. Erm, I guess electronics in general and jeans, I believe. Clothes in general are cheaper over there, though maybe that is no longer the case for the UK since Matalan etc arrived.

Baaaaad night here (relatively, I guess). DD1 dropped off at about midnight. LO who starved herself of milk yesterday woke up at 2 and 5, happy but hungry. Went down again easily each time, but I am no longer used to night wakings.

The dog had the squits, on my bedroom floor, which I only realised after walking in it barefoot at 5am. So cleaned that up without waking the rest of the household (my fault, I gave him leftover mac 'n' cheese and it must have been too rich). Realised last night I was getting a cold and today am a shivery snot monster. I'd be happy to place a bet that the girls will have it at the weekend and DH will have it too. It's not the worst cold ever but just bad enough for me to feel sorry for myself and feel that I deserve a fried cheese and bacon sandwich.

Sounds much better stunt. How did discussions on Sunday go?

Sorry about your fanjo det, I hope O gave you a good sleep last night. Are you straight back into shift?

pass beans and mash ip with a bit of grated cheese if appropriate sis a fine meal. We rediscovered it a couple of weeks ago. O loves it.

I have very sadly just made a cottage pie before the day begins. I am off to try a toddler group this morning. A bit nervous, I would find it all too easy to stay up here on the hill and pootle round with the kids just seeing family. But really I should go and see if there are any friends to make.