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StuntNun · 06/08/2013 10:37

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1813767-November-2012-Next-stage-car-seats-and-yet-more-teething

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Kyz · 08/08/2013 23:15

I think that looks fine detective though I'm not 100% cos I measure in weight for solids, I will check on my converty thing and write what e has, but o is taking a decent amount of milk still :) and eating something at all 3 offerings even if not alot at lunch today. It was offered so he would've eaten it if hungry I'm sure :) lemme see what e has n I'll write it out in ml for you

Kyz · 08/08/2013 23:18

Twat, they're the same thing, aren't they? It is grams and mls that are the same isn't it???

Kyz · 08/08/2013 23:24

It has to be unless my brain isn't following some worldwide change, lol! They were the same last time I checked... Twat.

Right, e has...

7am - 8oz
8-8:30 - not often he eats anything but today a crumpet, and a 45g yoghurt
12 - 130g cheese pie, 60g puréed mango
12:30 - 8oz
4 - 200g lamb roast dinner, half a fruit pouch so about 45g I think and another yoghurt cos mil is soft, about a dozen Ella's kitchen puffits.
7pm - 8oz

Today he drank a bit more than usual and ate breakfast but the other two meals he eats about 130-200g savoury for lunch then 150-300g for tea, depending on how he's feeling I guess and whether he likes it. Usually 20-22oz milk

Fucking hope they are the same when converted, or the above isn't much use to you. I didn't check but I'm sure they are...

I don't think you're over feeding him, you're offering him a decent amount and he is controlling what he takes :)

Kyz · 08/08/2013 23:32

Before I forget to ask, lovely pr where did you get your Tupperware from if you don't mind me asking Smile

TheDetective · 08/08/2013 23:43

Yes they are Kyz! Same thing Grin.

It sounds similar then to what O is having! Phew! I just don't get the worry of the HV and overfeeding. I would think it is hard to overfeed at this age?

Especially a baby that can't have bloody dairy FFS!! Grin

TheDetective · 08/08/2013 23:45

The 3 bottles that he has now dropped were around 180ml on average. So he is having less than that in amounts of food.

So I figured it seems like an okay amount, rather than too much.

Kyz · 09/08/2013 02:29

Definitely detective I know e stops eating when he's had enough and when he's definitely had enough he purses his lips and that's that, you couldn't force him into more than what he needs or wants! I don't get the worry either, but still get 20 questions when I go to weigh in I didn't go last time about what I feed him and why is he big etc.

PurplePidjin · 09/08/2013 02:52

11:05
11:45
12:05 with calpol
1:00
1:45
Dp just put him in his cot after an hour and he immediately wok up. Now trying feeding.

Fuck.

Kirrin · 09/08/2013 04:34

:( PP Any sign of any actual teeth? Hope they pop through soon.

Grin to toddler hearding YW Thats the same age gap I have and it's mostly fine, if a little non-stop. And yes, you can borrow DD1 to practice on any time you like.

One more day of my work course to go. I'm enjoying it but I'll be glad to get to the weekend. My house is a tip. Nothing else seems to happen on work days.

And I actually have a phone :) No numbers yet, but at least I can make a call if I need to.

ChasingDaisy · 09/08/2013 05:30

Sad Pidj. Hope your night has got better since then...

Luckily O has slept through until now after his head bashing. Quick feed and I am just waiting for him to self settle back to sleep.

That doesn't sound like over feeding to me at all det. For comparison this is what O typically has when not teething.

7am 7oz
8am Baby porridge with chopped up fruit.
10am 5oz
12pm finger foods lunch, typically a few fingers of pitta. slice of cheese, meat, egg. Perhaps a fruit pot.
1pm 6oz
4pm 3oz or water
5pm fish or meat finger food with noodles/pasta etc plus veg. He doesnt tend to eat too much of this.
6.30 6oz

He will also usually have a snack of rice cake or breadstick between meals if he seems peckish.

Comparing that to yours it seems as though my O is eating a heck of a lot...I hope I'm not over feeding Confused At the last weigh in he was following his centile and he is very long. He is getting a podgy tummy and thighs but that is normal for babies, right? Confused I am conscious of trying not to project my own weight issues onto him.

PennieLane · 09/08/2013 06:43

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ChasingDaisy · 09/08/2013 07:26

FFS spent from 5 until now trying to settle him. I'm fucking shattered, my mouth hurts and I just want a break. I've just dumped O on my dad. I can't even look at him at the moment. I know it isn't his fault but I am struggling with this today.

Passmethecrisps · 09/08/2013 07:44

Sad chasing. Will your dad take him for a while?

pennie it was a gorgeous puppy

Nobody puts VQ in the corner Grin

DH and I just bloody watched P fall flat on her face. Poor wee soul. She got a hold of the walker box which is still waiting to be recycled and pushing it around. She got up on it and was using it as a step to reach things higher up so we called on her. Of course being a good girl she turns around and heads towards us crawling right off this box and landing on her head. Poor wee soul cried and cried. Even fake sneezes didn't cheer her up. She is fine now though with no obvious damage. Pair of silly buggers.

det, kyz and chasing I think your meals look fine. I wouldn't be worried at all about over feeding. I think at this age that is pretty hard to do. P sucks on toast for breakfast, some purée for lunch with breadsticks or something and the same for dinner normally. She has a range of wee bits of finger foods but I have been trying to offer less choice to lessen waste and the potential of p thinking it is a game. Her actual amounts of solids are tiny. Proper tiny. In grams I would say maybe 30 grams? I don't know but thereabouts.

The babies are all so different though that any comparisons are a bit limited. Many babies would be starving on what p ate yesterday for example but she was quite happy. Our babies are not tiny anymore and, for the most part, will lead the way.

Of course, I have to repeat this to myself every single meal time

Passmethecrisps · 09/08/2013 07:49

Oh and pp that sounds awful. What a dreadful night.

ChasingDaisy · 09/08/2013 08:02

det the pancakes have milk in I'm afraid Sad And a fair amount of sugar. Oops Blush Confused No wonder O likes them.

MadameGazelleIsMyMum · 09/08/2013 08:17

For those of you worried about over-feeding, I think S eats quite a lot, and he's very much following the same 50th centile, so its just what he needs. This is what a typical day looks like:

6am - 6-8oz formula
6.30am - whole weetabix, bit of toast gummed
10am - 5-7oz formula
12noon - lunch something like half a bagel and spag hoops or cheese omlette or jacket pot and beans or whatever DD is eating. He'll eat loads if he is hungry and likes it, sometimes eats next to nothing. Always eats all of any fruit (3 ice cubes)/yoghurt (petit filous type) offered.
3pm - 5-7oz formula (but increasingly only around 3oz, think we are on the cusp of dropping this one).
5pm - mushed food like some kind of casserole. Ranges between nothing and all offered, which is, I'd say, the equivalent of a weetabix with milk sized portion. Again, always demolishes fruit or yoghurt if offered for pudding. Usually then sits in high chair while we eat, usually given some of our food eg pasta spirals and bolognaise sauce to keep him occupied. He'll often have a good go at this too.
6.30pm - 5-7oz formula.

pass and BP, yes, manky ingrowing toenail. After det said that her DP having it sorted had made a massive improvement, I went to GP who removed part of the nail. It made a difference for all of about 2 weeks when the re-growth did the same thing. I've also hacked about with it in an attempt to relieve the pressure which has of course failed and just made it infected and much worse, again I know I need to go and see them but am concerned there is no quick solution - the anaesthetic didnt work properly so she could only do as much as my pain threshold could take, which was most definitely not the whole nail, and I dont have the time to make and attend an appointment. Lame I know. It does need sorting, the sight of me bathing toe in dettol solution gives DH serious rage.

chasing have a break, a shower maybe, and don't have too many expectations for today.

PP same for you - sounds like a rubbish night.

izzy, if you are lurking - hope sleep is improving.

pennie me too - sounds interesting, but cant imagine doing it.

YW I think I have a similar age-gap to kirrin. Very hard work to start off with, but now we're 9 months in, it's getting easier and easier, and so nice that they really interact and will be chums and partners in crime like PR thinks her girls will be. And for me, 2 years old has been amazing, not terrible.

wellieboots · 09/08/2013 08:27

disclaimer - haven't caught up on thread since this morning (my time), will go and catch up now. 9 months today, unbelievable!

Just wanted to ask if anyone else had seen the AIBU thread about DP helping with housework while the OP is on mat leave with DC1 (10 weeks). it's turned into a total bunfight with a couple of posters getting all sanctimonious about how much babies sleep and how you can get all the housework done, yada yada...it has made me feel quite crap and teary (bloody hormones and bloody PND). When A was 10 weeks I was in reflux hell, she didn't sleep much in the day, when she did she was on me, she bfd for at least 6 hours, and the rest of the time she was usually screaming. It's made me feel really inadequate and upset, one poster has said that it only takes 4 hours a day to look after a baby, certainly not a full time job, blah blah. Oh, and anyone who can't do it that way is incompetent apparently! Sorry for rant, it has wound me up on a day that I should be celebrating surviving 9 months!

StuntNun · 09/08/2013 08:27

We have had three nappy leaks in two days, all poo of course. Hmm Time to move up to size 4+ then?

After Wednesday's horrendous night, J went from 9-12:30 then 1-6:15. His sleep is completely unpredictable from night to night but there's definitely been progress since I went egg-free.

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Kyz · 09/08/2013 08:27

Morning all, MIL said e slept till 6:30, which isn't bad :) I swear I sleep less when he's not here, I did 11:45-2, 2:45-5:30 then 6-7:30.

Oh pp that sounds like an awful night, really hope you got some sleep in the end! Bless you :(

kirrin glad you have a phone again :)

Podgy is normal IMO chasing e models podge brilliantly so I wouldn't worry, doesn't look like you're over feeding either :) If you think it looks like today will be a difficult one, set yourself the goal of just getting to bed time. It works here especially for days where I wake up and it already seems hard work.

Thanks pennie am going to try some different ones and see how I get on :) will hopefully get round to ordering some today!

Bless her pass I remember when e rolled off a big footstool, we were both right there, and couldn't stop him. Madness! Poor p, least she's fine now :) re: food, considering how it started when p wouldn't touch anything I reckon her 30g is quite an achievement, really good stuff :) you offer it, so one day she'll decide her little tum could do with a bit more, cos that particular dinner is yummy! She'll get there, and they are all different as you said :)

Ouch madame I've had one and they really do hurt! I really hope you find time to go to the doctors with it soon, it must be making things ten times harder, not to mention the pain!

Not sure what time we're picking e up. Not sure what I'm feeding him today either, didn't get owt out the freezer, oops.

PurplePidjin · 09/08/2013 08:31

Two bottom ones are nearly all the way through.

I changed him from 2.5tog to sheet sleeping bag and he slept 3 till 6:35. Stupid mummy (1tog was still damp from the wash)

Kyz · 09/08/2013 08:33

I've not seen it wellie but bollocks to them. Every situation is different, and they might well have had babies who did sleep so much it allowed them to do everything they did before. I remember taking eric to have his 3 months photos done, and there was a lady there with a 3 week old and she looked fab, really skinny, nice clothes, hair, makeup. She seemed so with it. I had a stain on my baggy top and dp's joggers on, brushed barely hair, overgrown eyebrows and bitten down über far nails. I felt like total shit after that. But then as my dp said to me, she might get all the help in the world, have a constantly sleeping baby or even just different priorities. She might be going home to a pig sty. I LOOKED a pig sty, but had managed to do some cleaning at home! Anyway, I was trying to make you feel better, I probably didn't manage it sorry!

Lol stunt I think it might be time to move up a size then! Glad for a better night last night :)

Passmethecrisps · 09/08/2013 08:39

Oh wellie have a [brew[

I genuinely think some people say things on MN just to get a reaction. I have seen some terrible things written and have reacted similarly. I have learned to stay away from thread with certain titles. Also, we all experience our first days with baby differently so to be quite frank no one is entitled to say what you should or should not be doing. I think I do less housework now than I did when p was tiny. She is now very active and needs a lot of watching and interaction so anything like cooking can be really hard. I am sure other people would cope no problems what so ever but they are not me so I don't care.

I hope you feel better for a rant. I hate the sanctimonious posters. I have seen all sorts - teachers are selfish for having babies and mat leave in term time; everyone can breast feed - those who claim they can't are liars: pre-making formula is akin to poisoning your baby . . . Twice!

Deep breaths

YellowWellies · 09/08/2013 08:45

Aye Wellie ignore, ignore, ignore. I barely managed to keep the Rayburn which provided our heating alight in the first 2-3 months of Jonas' life thanks to reflux. If I hadn't have had a sling, an amazing DH and a decent fish and chip shop we'd have starved!

MadameGazelleIsMyMum · 09/08/2013 08:47

I saw that thread wellieboots. Load of bollocks like kyz says. Some babies are easy, some are not, some people had oodles of time, some don't. Every baby is different, everyone survives the early days differently. Balls to it. You're doing fab.

ValiumQueen · 09/08/2013 08:57

Not caught up but...

1ml does not equal 1g as ml is a measure of volume and g is a measure of mass. It is only the same if it is water.