November 2012 - Crawling? Already? Uh-oh!

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Oh god. Twenty minute feed, I unlatched him as he'd only fed two hours ago. Cue major rooting around and screaming, arching back and upset. Eventual small burp more annoyance and then calmed down a bit laying over my arm tummy down. He's now sleepy and I am sitting up in bed with him in my chest. Don't know when he will let me lie down. God this is bad.

Oh Izzy I am sorry you are having a particularly bad night. I hope elevating the cot a bit will help a smidgen, but I find now J is mobile he has to be totally asleep at transfer otherwise he gets in such a pickle with rolling. Never seen or used a wedge though. I know it probably doesn't help much, but at least he is not plagued by respiratory infections too. From what I read he is a pretty healthy boy. How is he getting on with solids?

I have been up since 4.30. He went down around 10 and so had over 6 hours, which is very good considering he cannot breathe very well.

The depression thing really hit home last night, leo was severely depressed in the last 4 months. he had severe panic attacks, took ad, sleeping tablets, had counselling. it was horrible to watch. I have been watched by several people since He died. My friends were very worried and they were absolutely brilliant at making the pain bearable. I got so worried about giving birth on my own that I felt I started to become depressed. Than a friend from Australia recommended getting a doula and that tiny little sentence saved me, I found a lovely lady who really got me (thanks fuck I had her with me as my best friend had to leave an hour before O was born, she was with me for 20 hours by than). Anyway I think I can say I'm not depressed, I feel sad often but I don't think is the same.

We are up by 7 and I always leave the house by 9. I have a shower while O plays in her cot and usually organise everything the night before. I always go out twice a day. I have no friends to talk to, no grown ups to share my evenings so the daily walks are lifesavers as is this quiche. I miss my friends.

Anyway Huge hugs to those struggling, I do hope it will get better for all of you.

pr good plan, you will win!
det I'm with you on long hair, I look awful with short. It's a pita to wash it but at least I look decent.

O loves her toothbrush, she wanted to take it with her to sleep with. She gets so excited seeing it. I must put a pic up of her bedroom, it's not ready yet but getting there.

Lily as you say, feeling sad is totally appropriate considering your circumstances. I am glad you have good friends, and it is a shame they are not near. I hope you soon find more friends. The quiche is great, but we also need to have people around us too.

Well J brought up every last drop of his feed after an hour of coughing, soaking him, me and the lounge carpet and sofa. He is now asleep on his changing mat, which happens often when he is like this. No fever this morning, which is an improvement, and his breathing, although wheezy is not causing his sternum to touch his backbone.

My mum is having the girls from 10 to 4 so I can rest, and wash my sodding hair. I too have got in the cycle of growing it long, cutting it short, regretting it etc. I grew my fringe out when pg. still not sure that was a good idea, but not going to make any changes at the moment. I would love to have my hair like Judy Dench. It suits me short, but the upkeep is financially beyond me, plus finding the time to get it done is impossible too.

About the SAHM thing, I think, I know, if that had been an option from when DD1 was small, I would have embraced it. It was never an option, and never will be. Once a child is used to full time nursery it is harder to swap. If at home with a parent all the time, shopping, cleaning cooking washing etc is all part of the activities, and they can learn to occupy themselves. In nursery they have constant stimulation and company, and going from that to being home with mummy on Mat Leave was hard for both of them, which is why I kept them both in a couple of days a week.

As being a SAHM is never an option then I guess I tell myself I would not like it, or be any good at it, as if I longed to do it then it would hurt too much. I long to cut my hours though. I hope when J starts school I can do so. I want to be able to pick my kids up from school.

Well everyone will be up soon. Another day in paradise.

Morning all :)

Happy July! Where did the time go.

Happy birthday to Bry's R

July? Fuck! So it is!

Yes, happy birthday R

Hand holding really needed. I have to apply for a loan this week for a new car. Those of you who will remember I had rubbish finances when DS1 was born three years ago having come out of a divorce, I have worked really hard to get back to a 999 credit rating and my one thing remaining was to go on the electoral roll. This I have done and I should now be on it, according to the letter I had from them.

So I need to sort the loan out this week.

I am, shitting myself really worried.

So my ratingis great, I am on the electoral roll, I rarely go into overdraft, and if I do I move some money to sort it out. A significant amount of money goes in every month, I am still worried that they will find a reason to say no.

Thanks for the birthday wishes Luis, kirrin, pr and vq. That was fast baking Luis even for you . Feeling much better this morning - thank fuck. It's going to be a lovely day.

Glad to see you back in your name vq .

Lily - what a lot you have been through. We sure do have some very brave quichsters.

Izzy - so sorry for your horrendous night. Vq yours sounded pants too.

Eliza - was lovely to hear you had a good time yesterday. Hope today is a better day for everyone who needs one.

Good luck sophia

I have a very whiny toddler here. She'd like to sleep another hour at least. Nevermind. Mind over matter shall be deaf to toddler whininess and tantrums today. We're in the army now....

Just re-read. 6.5 hrs for J vq - not bad at all. May this be a corner. Hope you got some sleep too. G did well too last night.

Good luck Wing Commander PR! --wait, is that just the airforce? Like the sound of it anyway

checking in catch up later.

hope you're ok Lily

hugs and hand holding izzy

Quick suggestion of talc rubbed into greasy roots. And a pony tail. My hair is rarely down and I couldn't give a flying fuck. About 1 day a month or so I get a bit precious but then I stop. Because I am too lazy.

I often look at other women with lovely hair and think "why don't I have lovely, swishy hair?" Then I remember it is because I am a lazy bawbag.

Happy birthday lovely R! I hope family bry have a lovely day.

lilly O is very lucky to have such a courageous mum. Sad is, of course, understandable but you just seem so utterly determined.

How did the rest of your night go Izzy? I hope the wedge helps.

VQ I am almost speechless in that what else can be said. Every time I read a post where you say one of your babies is poorly again my heart sinks for you. I also note that this chest infection of yours hasn't magically go better. Please, please mention this at your doc appointment and get some antibiotics.

kirrin I also love reading what everyone is up to. I have a sneaky suspicion sometimes that when things are not great fr our lovely quichesters others feel they can't post with the wee things of their day. Maybe not. Maybe people are just busy. It would be lovely to catch up with some old faces again.

kyz that post was epic and lovely. Your shoe analogy was quite beautiful. And as vq said you have special feet with very special shoes - you have no idea how important and valuable you are.

How is MM? Calling MM

I am sorry for your situation PR. The bint's behaviour is just irrational. I am looking forward to hearing how you get on.

Good luck with the loan app sophia! Can you imagine the global financial situation if everyone had the same control of their finances?

Hia clarella!

Passes ear defenders to PR. Good luck on day one of the New Regime.

I'm afraid rest of night was spectacularly pants too pass :-(

He has just finished feeding ten mins ago, he fed loads last night.

vq you asked about solids, he still hasn't touched a drop. I involve him at mealtimes by giving him broccoli, toast or cucumber or such like. He is yet to put any food to his mouth and I was advised to stop attempting spoon feeding due to his reaction. We have children's nurse coming thurs to play with puree on Thurs. I have apples and pears and carrot and swede to make some up!

Today we are going to a family park thing with all sorts of fun stuff, I am looking forward to the 90min drive as i can snooze!

Jacob is still fast asleep in the middle of the lounge on his pink princess changing mat. Life continues around him.

Good luck Sophia.

Izzy - the food thing sounds horrid. I hope your food play session goes ok. I have sometimes found it harder to stay cool when my purée is flying round the kitchen but not being eaten. I have found I don't mind as much though if it is ella's kitchen. Also it seems to have a very slippery go down easily texture. Might not help but thought it was worth throwing in to the mix!

Oh Izzy you are having a tough time with sleep. (((((( hugs )))))

Kyz I love your posts but dont love your tendency to put yourself down somehow. You are very thoughtful and sometimes, if a post gets lost in the whirlwind of the quiche and no one responds, and I am feeling a bit unloved, you are always the person most likely to specifically comment.

det I too miss some of the old posters. I hope the only reason they're not posting is because life is full and busy. But I think what pass says is true - people tend to go quiet if it is all a bit shit, but surely the last few weeks of posts are evidence that speaking up generates support? I also often think of little and her Dasiy. I know someone (bluebell?) updated us that she was upduffed again - I hope she has or will have her rainbow baby soon.

sophia always an anxious time. It sounds like you've done everything right. Fingers crossed. You can always challenge a decision if it isnt what you want - I did that successfully once.

bry Happy Birthday R! Wishing a very happy, stress free year for you all xx

luis squared not doubled is a great way to think of it. I like that, going to pinch it when people ask me for an honest assessment of what having 2 is like compared with having one.

Also I know I am not cut out for SAH duties. A better balance than my FT+ existence would be nice, but as far as I am concerned, I am quite content to pay nursery to do the twigs and pasta on paper crafty crap that I am not fond of.

lily I think sadness is of course understandable. In all the circumstances, you've done amazing to be able to say you're not depressed. I think getting out and about daily is super important. Has been much easier for me this time around, as DD is like a puppy and needs daily fresh air and exercise, so at the very least we always manage a quick gallop around the park, but getting out is key.

eliza that made me smile. On the rare occasions we have been child free we always make the most of it, and then too late, I recall that a 5am start to the day and two wide awake small people is not compatible with a sore head.

YW I am in the same cycle - long hair, always in a ponytail, chopped, hate it, grow. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, repreat. I need to find something I like, that suits me, that is easy to maintain. Dont want much?

I have a benefit that my hair is naturally curly. So although I do like to blow dry and straighten, when I dont have time every day then, I can just dump some mousse in it while wet and I'm off. Sometimes I get the good curls and it stays down. If I get the crap ones, it goes up but with slightly wild curls, I feel its more interesting. reads that back and knows its total bullshit.

VQ get thee to a GP for some drugs. The quiche has spoken

jupiter hope the row was nothing too bad. Sometimes an air clearing bust up is no bad thing though?

daisychain I really agree with that - it is hard enough all on its own, such a massive, massive adjustment.

To everyone else - , and as needed today.

bry I have found the same. It probably won't be much good for wee J but P's transformation to a spoon accepting baby was thanks to EK. I found one she liked then mixed it with every meal she had but gradually upped te other stuff.

That's quite a picture VQ. I have a full mental image of that. I bet you wish you could curl up next to him on the princess mat.

Thanks everyone, sorry I have been a bit quiche neglectful of late. I am missing it. Has been a bit crazy this week. I had my last supper with my NCT group from having Ds1 on Thursday, and a busy weekend's activities with the kids.

I am meant to be working at home this morning but a mincing around the house trying to get my head straight. The loan app looming, the move looming....the DH had mooted moving ourselves which would mean getting rid of a lot of our lives and starting again and I am stuck between throwing caution to the wind and saying yes fuck it (sorry I know it is not Wednesday) let's do it and thinking we wouldn't save enough £ by doing that to allow us to get everything we need for a family of 4. I am switching hourly. Am leaving him to ponder on it. He USUALLY makes the right decision in the end. If I hear nothing by Thursday I will approach the subject.

Might name change to headfuckfairy today!

I will have a proper catch up later.

4.45am wake up call again. The boy seems to have a cold though which I think is why. He's asleep now. He couldn't have hat fever could he? Always more runny/sneezy/itchy at dusk and dawn. But I thought babies couldn't have HF.

VQ I too am picturing J. Very glad to hear you are getting a break today. Been thinking of you much.

Lily you have told your story to us very gradually over the last few months and it is continually moving to hear it, I am sorry your friend missed the birth but it sounds like the doula was an inspired decision.

Depression is an odd thing. I actually heard Denise Thingy say something interesting about it on Loose Women a couple of weeks ago (I know, the shame) - that when you were depressed, you could be told you'd won the lottery and you wouldn't feel any different but also that you could receive terrible news and not feel different either. I don't think I've expressed it too well but people often talk about depression as something you 'cheer up' from, whereas in reality it is kind of separate from happiness or unhappiness. I existed on a separate plane from whatever was going on around me for three years. I sometimes have flashes of it still but L has given my life reality and meaning. I feel very fortunate as many people experience the opposite.

Pass you are right about posters not wanting to post their day-to-day stuff when so much is going on in others' lives or when they haven't had time to catch up fully. But I'm sure there are more quichesters reading than posting. I post when I can but I'm always lurking.

Oh and on the SAHM discussion, I want both! I would happily be with L 24 hrs a day but I still want to do my job and have that fulfilment. I am lucky things have turned out that I can work 2.5 days per week, although it means things are extremely tight financially. But I still get lots of time with my boy.

He's been asleep nearly two hours! Making up for last night I guess.

Has anyone else tried feeding their baby jelly? I got some from Tesco (strawberry jelly with nectarine pieces) and J loved it. I'm just wondering as IME once you find one food, any food, that your baby will eat then it's much easier to get them to accept other foods on the spoon. J has now started to open his mouth for other foods, rather than clamping his lips tightly shut, sometimes after a taste he won't take any more but other times he surprises me with what he will eat.

Good morning quiche,

EK is pretty much the only thing O will take from a spoon. His eating is still quite hit and miss but I have faith that he will get there in the end. Just like with his sleeping. He slept 7-4-7 all in his cot last night . I am pleased I have resisted outside pressures to add Rusk to his milk/feed him hungry baby milk etc and have just taken things at his pace. I feel very proud of him and a teeny bit proud of me for trusting my mummy instincts.

pass I think you could be right about why we have lost some posters along the way. I think it is also telling that a lot of us left are going through tough times at the moment. Perhaps people just need the quiche more in times of need.

I am planning to buy a couple of extra bottles today and make up feeds 24 instead of 12 hourly, last thing at night. Does anyone else make them 24 hourly? Is it safe?

I do but O only has 3 bottles in 24 hours (7am, 3pm, 7pm). I make an additional 4oz bottle for the night but haven't been using it for a while.