November 2012 - The weaning adventure continues

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1772925-November-2012-Adventurous-eaters-food-refusers-and-everything-in-between

Oh I luffs David Tennant.

Chasing it goes to show it can happen to the best of us and that the victim is not to blame. Saatchi - what a tosser PS glad to hear you had no lingering feelings.

MM I don't see him as David Tennant - he reminds me of someone (he has one of those familiar faces) but not the Doctor.... DT's too gentlemanly.

Dammit, this boy can smell cuddles

Evening, not been about much, bought a new to us car and Eric ate some chicken as finger food :) and toast today too :)

Glad the meet went well chasing the x il's can go take a running jump! You haven't done anything wrong to make o not sleep, FC you do get some sleep tonight, sounds like you need some, hope o settles soon

Eric tugs his willy sometimes too madam, makes me laugh! Makes himself squeal sometimes

Good luck with the diet stunt I too am on one!

Thinking of you lily lots of hugs

Can they do the separation thing just at night det o sounds quite clever perhaps he knows night time is longer and doesn't want to be left so long?

Bless you izzy you must be so tired! Hope the shoes come on time :)

gt hugs, piss in his shoes

Anyway I should go to sleep, FC for good nights all round, pp hope sleepy dust reaches you

Just had to google Nigella. That?s horrible.

Hugs lily, well done chasing. Hope the vhristening goes well izzy.

Very quiet day here. Poor dh had to work.

Gt is there no relatives or friends around who could talk some sense into dh?

Fx for good nights for stunt, izzy, det and everyone in need of sleep so, er. all of us then.

Daisy During a recent drunk episode his sister happened to call. I tried to stop him answering the call. She got very angry at him and demanded to talk to me. I was very upset n told he he was very drunk. Couldn't walk straight. That I couldn't even put lo to bed as I didn't trust him to take him up n I couldn't (stil can't) carry him up the stairs. She ended up coming over with her hubby.
They have both subsequently spoken to him. That he needs to calm down and particularly at night ATM as I need to rely on him so much.
He isn't happy that I involved his sister. She has her own issues to deal with. N our problems are our own. I did point out HE answered the call to her despite me trying to stop him for this exact reason.

I digress. Ppl have spoken to him and its made no difference. His B n sil used to live here (before I married him) n I know they tried to speak to him about his drinking.

When he is in this stage of this drinking cycle there is no reasoning with him. Every few months he binge drinks for a few weeks. He doesn't see it as he has a problem cos he doesn't drink in the morning/afternoon. Or during work.

I don't think I mentioned earlier ( on phone so can't check back) he was drinking last night. And this am I was annoyed which triggered his moodiness all day.

Sry. I'm just off loading now.
Don't need this now :( lo has turned snotty n has a cough I don't have time to worry about FH as well.

Think calm thoughts. Need to get up for work in am.

Oh dear gt it sounds like your having one he'll of a time with your husband. I'm not sure what to say as there's nothing that I can say that would help you I don't think. Hopefully now his sister knows this will mean he will reduce hos alcohol consumption. It's not good for him to be drinking like that at the best of times never mind when his wife is so incapacitated :-(

I'm heading to bed now. Better late than never. If the past few weeks is anything to go by I will get an hour til J wakes up :-(

It's ok izz. Not much anyone can say. I know I complain a lot about him. But I keep most of it to myself as I just think, if I was reading this as an outsider I would be yelling LTB. but I know I'm not going to leave. So I guess what's the point in sharing all the shittyness and then not taking the advice that's offered.
Just have no one to talk to in rl and its got a bit much today.
Glad I'm going to work tomorrow actually need to get away from "this".

Going to go back to my semi lurking status now.

GTbaby, Izzy, Chasing you have all said you're going to lurk because you don't "see the point in sharing the shittyness" or something similar.

We are all here for each other precisely to share the shittyness, because venting and advice can help and because being a parent to a bub can be lonely even with the best support in the world.

Reach out for every bit of support you can get, including us. Don't hide. Please. Even if we are not the support you reach for, you are not alone.

Thinking of lily, chasing, gt, izzy, stunt, pidj, det and anyone else on need of support/hugs/sleep.

Night (hopefully).

What Luis said. GT, have you been in touch with al-anon, they should be able to help you through with more specific advice?

3 hourly. Not as bad as it could be, means i probably have another feed to do yet though

Thanks luis I just feel like I same the same thing every bloody day.

We're up now. Have fed and have unputdownable baby. Not sure how long to try for before giving up and bringing him into my bed. When he's in with us I sleep so badly as I'm scared to move!

Hugs GT Threaten to start drinking too? What would he say if you said that his behaviour was driving you to drink? I know you're preg and that ain't gonna happen ...sorry no help

GT that sounds shit. Don't keep it all in - let it out here.

What a night. My 2 have tag teamed me all night. And N hasn't woken more than once for a few weeks now. Hope it's a fluke and not some sort of regression. I'm working today so no point in even trying to get back to bed now. Yawn......

Not a bad night here by recent shite standards, and the 5.45am start is a fucking lie in compared to last few days. But only achieved by having DS in bed with me. And DH sleeping with DD. I never intended to be a co sleeping family. But it seems to be the only thing that works and as we both work FT, I think we'll just carry on to get some sleep.

GT hugs. I don't have any advice but you need to take any support you can get .

Izzy keep posting

chasing my DH doesn't do nights either. He's so useless that even though he sleeps in the same bed as DD, she can wake crying and I have to wake him up from another room to deal with it. So is just easier to deal with DS on own.

for everyone. Best get up and go to work. Bloody DH has the day off - booked to recover from hockey. DC at nursery today, so he has a blissful day alone. Am but my sensible way to deal with this is to give him a load of chores.

gt pls talk, we are here for you. Same with all of you with troubles. I often feel guilty of posting about how I feel but to be honest I'm most honest with all of you. No one even asked how I felt yest, I feel that a year on I'm supposed to be this fine, balanced woman who showed already that she could do it on her own and she will now stay strong forever. Not. A year on I'm still very much grieving for him, for O, for the life we supposed to have, for the unborn siblings, for my life back in the Uk. But! Compare to some of you my troubles are small as I know there is nothing I can do to change things, I have to accept them. chasing after seein the Nigella pictures, I can't even think what you went through but I'm so glad you are safe.

We had an ok night, she was up at midnight and was so thirsty, than at 4 but I just turned her back on her tummy. She has not figured out how to turn in her sleeping back, grrr.

We will be out early in the morning and late in the afternoon, predicted 35 degrees here.

((lily))

Your troubles are the opposite of small Lilly. I really feel for you. You are doing brilliantly and should be so proud of that - but it is a shame that that means it is easier for those around you to forget how much you must be hurting. Big hugs.

(((((((Lilly))))))) you are awesome but it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt

Big hugs to izzy, chasing, luis, det, pp and anyone else up all night. I have been up on and off since 4.30am with a very snotty puking baby. Green rivers of snot.

And GT tell Hubby to grow some and man up!

Lily I think you have been remarkably restrained in how much you have posted about your feelings. (((Hug)))

lily I definitely feel guilty of assuming you're fine because you are so awesome, and guilty for whinging about DH when I am lucky to have him. Of course you are still grieving. The last thing you should feel is guilty about posting. I think that goes for everyone with ongoing woes - I certainly dont feel like there is an "allowance" about what we can post about, nor a need to be cheerful all the time. We are here to support each other and that means listening when people need to rant, even if it is the same rant over and over.

Morning.

I've said it before - no one should apologise for posting on here. We go through a thread every few days for a very good reason. Every post adds something.

I am sorry that your RL people are being a bit thoughtless lilly. I have a friend who lost her fiancé and it was amazon how quickly people felt she should 'move on'.

Big hugs to chasing - I immediately thought of you when I saw those pics of Nigella.

Fuck sticks for bad nights.

I need some advice re day naps. I am, at this moment, being driven demented by a baby who seems not to know how to sleep. She still seems tired after an hour to an hour and a half from waking but I cannot get her to sleep. Basically, when we stopped swaddling at night she seemed to forget how to self-settle during the day. I started rocking her to sleep as a 'nap at any cost' strategy. Well, now she seems to have decided that being rocked to sleep as akin to being tortured and simply cries herself into a purple fury if I try to.

I put her down and she immediately starts to cry. Then be seems to have a second (and third and fourth) wind where she blabbers and rummages around. Every single time I go up she is in crawl position rocking back and forward.

This goes on and on until she gets completely hysterical.

I think she might now be asleep - that has been an hour after putting her down.

During this time I keep going in to put her dummy back in.

What are your thoughts? What should I be doing? In comparison to what others go through I know that tho is a drop in the ocean but bizarrely I find it really stressful. She is so difficult to get down during the day that if people come round I simply can't put her down to nap as I would be up and down the stairs so often. The result of this obviously I that she ends up brain melted with overtiredness.

Lily I often feel guilty about posting my issues because I feel that they are nothing in comparison to what you are going through. I guess all of this shows how aware we are of each others feelings and thus proves even more why we should keep posting.

It is no exaggeration to say that last night was the worst we have ever had. Poor poor boy was obviously in pain. He did a big poo this morning so not sure if it was tummy related. I am going to start giving him his dinner earlier now as I think eating too close to bedtime is stopping him sleep.

Sorry for the dreadful typos and autocorrects - blame Apple and a baby!