March 2013 - gurgles, giggles and going on holiday (for some of us at least!)

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Oh my goodness, so much to catch up on and so little time to do it in!

Er, where do I start - Ood, I am so glad to hear of your DS's recovery. I cannot begin to imagine how awful a time that must have been for you. Hope he continues to recover perfectly well.

leni don't beat yourself up about it if you have to stop expressing etc. I do remember reading somewhere though that the amount you express is no indication of how much your boobs are producing so don't necessarily think your boobs are broken.

pud glad to hear that DS is heading back up the centiles!

Eig well done on the sleep :) DD is back up to five hour stretches now hurrah! She had 3oz of ff last night at 9-9:30 as she hadn't gone down for long at 8:30 (which seems to be when she's tired enough to go to bed) and went from 10 till 3:25. Happy with that...

I think I'm going to try to get her into a routine of DS to bed 7-7:30 then DD ff bottle and bed some point around 8ish and see what happens from there.

something you should really try to wean much before 4 months as their tiny tummies aren't ready for it. Talk to your HV about it though?

stormy you MUST tell us some of the awful names now!

plonko I've not had my post birth period yet but I'm dreading it! I have had a few spots recently so I think my hormones may be getting back to normal. I still need to sort out getting the coil but as the family planning clinic is only Thurs eve 6-8pm (to catch all the teenagers apparently !) and my GP won't fit it I'm screwed not, unfortunately at the moment.

Hi too to the newbies, KF,vj et al!

Wing - i decided to express only today and see if he gets enough. Woke up to find OH had fallen asleep with DS on him without giving him the bloody bottle, but I didn't realise this until we'd gone 2 hours beyond breakfast time and I couldn't understand why DS was distraught not very happy with OH right now... Have asked him if we can go to counselling and he said no. It feels like we genuinely want to smack each other lately.

Eco we've had toys in the cot since the start! DS doesn't seem to know they're there though since they're not in his eyeline. Mobiles seem stupidly expensive?

Pud I feel your pain, I've had earache for ages and DS woke up lots in the night so I feel really rough today too

Omg I've just noticed DS has wee ALL UP HIS TEE SHIRT!!!

leni I don't know quite how to phrase this, and I don't want to come across as interfering, but. You're not happy, you want to try counselling, and your OH point blank refused? I would be very wary of getting a mortgage with him right now. And I know smacking each other isn't actually acceptable but I'd be sorely tempted to - he forgot to feed his child. How does anyone manage to forget that?

Wing some selected highlights of the baby names:
Braxton (wtf, why would you do this? It's like calling your baby fake labour pain)
Keegan (isn't that a football player?)
Nevaeh (there are two of these, one -Rose, the other -Angel)
Lincon (I'm assuming conceived in Lincoln by parents who can't spell)
Iyla (someone's obviously never seen Isla written down)
Omar Sharif (this isn't actually a bad name, it just made me laugh when I saw it)
Far too many -Maes to count (and even a couple of -Mais, but no -Mays)
Bentley Smirk (not a stupid name, I just love that surname)
Neave (oh ffs, if you don't know how to spell it, ask someone! Don't just guess!)
Ambur (ditto)
Aksel (this is starting to hurt my brain now)
Junior Nobbs ("What shall we call our child, so that he does not get the shit kicked out of him?")

wing DS seems happy enough with milk so I wouldn't really consider weaning before 4 months. It is exciting to think about though all the cleaning up of mush on faces we'll be doing! Ask me again if I still find it exciting in a month or so though and I'm sure I'll have a different response!

leni I feel where you're coming from with OH troubles. We had a bit of an emotional meltdown at midnight last night where he got so much off his chest because he says we don't show each other much affection anymore and he feels like we're losing each other so we've decided a mini-break is needed and more time spent together being a couple. It's difficult sometimes to remember that's what we were before we became a family and we shouldn't lose that. I hope OH has redeemed himself from this morning. Men, eh?

worse father's day cards for daddy and all 3 grandpas have been purchased. Although I'm annoyed at father's day as DS was due on March 2nd but was 13 days late so I missed out on mother's day this year, so OH likes to show off about having a father's day! I still beat him though as my birthday is the day before And personal training? You're braver than me! Sounds fun though and glad you're having some time for you!

DS woke me up this morning at 9am chattering to himself and giving me the biggest smile when I went to see him. He's been in a great mood all day and is now dozing which gives me time to read the new Dan Brown book.

Oh Leni - it's tough with a new baby, a massive adjustment, and you and your DH wouldn't be the first to occasionally lose it a bit with each other. Sleep deprivation, lack of time as a couple, worry, general chaos as there just aren't enough hours in the day to do stuff... all of that can really stretch a relationship. Add the stress of house hunting, and you have one big melting pot. Maybe take a step back from the house thing for a week or so and take the pressure off yourselves? Just a thought. Big hug though...

Stormy love the names. I feel really quite ordinary and boring now, which is probably because I am . Way to go to Junior Nobb's parents though. That child is going to need knuckles of steel to survive the school yard politically incorrect statement as obviously all school yard disputes are resolved through reasoning, discussion and a handshake

Something I just managed a mother's day card by the skin of my teeth, and was well pleased with myself. Apparently DD selected and bought the card herself. Obviously she would have written it too, had she not been having a nap at the time

Hmmm, her littlest-ship is on a nap refusal today, which I can tell is going to prove a little wearing. She is also ridiculously hungry. One and a half feeds ahead of schedule already. Most strange...

Stormy Junior Nobbs?
I'm very stuck for Father's day. My Dad just had a birthday and I forgot to withold a present for Sunday. My -OH DD got me flowers for Mother's day but DH didn't remember to get his own Mum anything so I insisted she got the flowers I therfore got nowt. So how do I return the favour?

worsester how old? Are you at the 12 or 16 week growth spurt?

Ood - she's 14wks, and obviously not read the manual!

Joking aside, I think she's just got herself in a pickle today through not napping. Her 3pm feed has been firmly rejected and she's now fallen asleep on me. Yay!

There's a sixteen week growth spurt too? I'll look forward to that.

Can I have a bit of a rant? Am so tempted to give the man a right ding round the earhole today. He doesn't seem to realise that babies sometimes need to be actively entertained, and that if they're shouting because they're bored they're not going to stop if you just hold them. Or that, actually, I'd quite like to sleep in until lunchtime too. Or that it's really not fair that his stretch of on-duty hours are while she's asleep, whereas mine are while she's awake.

On the plus side, DD has mastered grabbing Bunny and hitting herself in the face with him. Progress!

Stormy - you're not wrong. DD was crying the other night when i'd just gone to bed and DH comes in and says 'don't worry, i'll see to her' and then went into the bathroom to have the bath he'd just run. So I went to her...
Aaaaand, every time she cries it's because 'she must be hungry'. Excellent - 'preciate your help.

Hi ood!

Proper post later but mini eig and I have been to the baby spa in Kensington, will have to sort out how to post photo later amazing! And they weighed her and she is 6.04 kg!

It's clearly useless OH time again. I'm currently trying to decide just how cross I'm going to be with DH when I get downstairs from doing bedtime. He's been away all week again, and since he's got home he's done nothing. Dd is going through a stage where she's only happy sitting up. Not reclining, not cuddling, not lying, but only sitting up. I tell him this. He lies down with her (because he's lazy and basically thinks parenting involves sitting on the sofa with baby nestled into crook of arm). She cries. He hands to me saying 'she's crying'. No shit Sherlock.

How angry I will be depends entirely on whether he is sat on his arse or tidying up when I get downstairs.

Oh and today dd demonstrated her disdain for tummy time most resolutely by working out how to roll onto her back from her tummy! Can't believe we're there already! I kept thinking it was accidental, poor girl had to prove herself about 5 times before I believed her!

vj the correct answer to 'she's crying' from your dh is.... 'oh bad luck, on your shift as well ' ... as you swan off to do important stuff.

What is it with them thinking one can parent most effectively when horizontal? The man knows full well DD doesn't believe in lying down unless it's naptime and yet he still tries it. And then when she complains he doesn't do anything.

I think he must've sensed my ranting somehow though, he's been much better the rest of the afternoon. Although he did manage to totally forget how to get an entire bottle of milk down her at bedtime (it's not that hard, really; you just have to swaddle her and feed her in bed if she starts bitching). And I still can't persuade him to take her to the shops with him, so we have nothing in for tea. Bah. I may have to retire to bed with a packet of biscuits.

eig I've seen the baby spa on FB!

Ive had a breakthrough with the mil. She cooked dinner.yay.

For once im not having a bash at my dh today well the day isnt over yet. Our relationship has changed since ds. Its funny as its supposed to be the happiest time in our relationship yet its been the most miserable time. Sleep deprivation at being a sahm has a lot to do with it (especially if you was working before dc).

eig - baby spa? Please explain more. Is it something mummies can enjoy too. Im abit miffed my ds gets pampered with massages and long baths more than me.

Well done mini vj. Soon they will be crawling. It goes quick.

leni dont be too harsh on your dh for falling asleep. Im a bad mummy for doing something similar last night. Ds was stirring so made a bottle and left it to cool. I must have drifted off to sleep as next thing i know ds is crying and his bottle is very very cold. Oopps.

X post. stormy my dh is the same. I have yet to persuade him to go out with ds.

Ok it didnt last long. I escaped to the room to sleep. Dh comes in with ds saying ds wants to sleep. Ds will just have a short nap so why not put him in his cot or bouncer. Why disturb me. Grrr.

Ooh ooh - i've got a good one. DH gets home from work then sits on laptop planning his route tomorrow (coach driver). DD is in bouncy chair next to DH while Mummy is in kitchen slaving over dinner. DH says 'oh dear' and indicates a bottom explosion by blowing a raspberry. So I scoop her up and change her then put her back and retreat to kitchen. 2 mins later 'pffffffft' 'and again' he says. 'Can you do it?' I ask, hopefully. (shouty) 'i've got to finish my route'. Oh, sorry. Just me that has to drop everything. FFS.

My very favourite is:

Me: could you change her please?

DH: Ok then, but I am in a bit of a rush.

Either do, or don't. Don't agree to do something whilst simultaneously pointing out what an inconvenience it's going to be. You don't get bloody martyr points for parenting.

I got downstairs to DH looking smug, sat on his bum, saying 'I've washed the bottles'. By which he means he's put them in the sink with hot soapy water. Our plug leaks slowly, so soon they'll just be languishing at the bottom of the sink covered in soap scum and I'll need to start all over again. But I should be impressed. Because he cleaned the bottles.

Anyone else occasionally get the feeling we should say to hell with the lot of them and try out lesbianism?

Ah yes but haven't they done their bit already by providing us with the DCs?

Oh blimey you lot have OHs that need kicking up the a**e :(

I went to a MN Local meet up today! (I actually organised it as I'm a Local Ambassador for my area ) It was really nice. Hurrah for MN. DD slept through the whole thing starting before I left at 12 until I got into the car to come home at 3. She must have really needed it after being awake a fair amount this morning.

She downed her 3oz ff at 8:30 earlier and then promptly fell asleep on the changing mat! She likes it down on the floor, more than being in the bouncer, and can lie and chat/wriggle away for ages an she just got more and more tired until we heard a bit of thumb sucking and then she'd zonked out I took her upstairs at 9:30, topped her up with some boob and we will see how she goes tonight...

Hope you all manage to get good night's sleep!

I'm having a shitty day. Didn't get more than 90mins consecutive sleep last night so feel like crap, every meal I've had today I've had to breastfeed through. My back's really sore again from leaning over during night feeds as its the only way to get a successful transfer. My nipples are agony as she's alternating between nipping, feeding & comfort sucking (which she's done a lot of today as its been the only way to stop the screaming). I've just whinged about this all to DH as I'm on the verge of meltdown & I'm guessing he didn't know which helpful supportive thing to say as he opted for saying fuck all and going to lie on the sofa and read his book while I try for the third time to feed her to sleep. Some days I fucking hate all of this despite having the most beautiful daughter, I would just love to not have demands on me every bloody minute of the day.

stormy - hell no! Share my kitchen with another woman? Now that really would be too much.... it's bad enough when my DM visits!

I know it's all a bit of light hearted joshing really, but it's worth sorting the little things before they turn into big things iykwim. Nicely mind! No throwing the baby bath at their head tempting though that may be

Home alone, and bl**dy grateful that despite a belly full of wind the tiddler has managed a full bottle and settled down for the night. Let's hope she's planning on a good long stretch.