JAN 06 - so what's THAT you're eating mummy?

[loomer]

Here we go then... I've also updated my album of photos on the \link{http://health.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/mumsnetpix/photos\Yahoo site}, it'd be great to see recent pics of all our angels on there!

Hi Guys

Long time no post from me. Have just tried to catch up with everyone. Will be slightly selfish and ramble on about whats been happening in the Postlethwaite household for a minute if you don't mind .

Miss Mollie is now a big sister for the 2nd time. Ex-h's new gf gave birth last Thurs to a little girl. They've called her Ivana (gf is from Belarus/Russia). Can't help but think 'Ivana Trump' . But hey, not my child so will keep nose out of it. Am of course worried sick that M will now want to spend all her time with new baby sis and not Libby. But that's just my paranoia and will keep a lid on it.

DH took me away w/e just gone to Babington House in Somerset. Most romantic, lovely w/e. We ate, slept, had a massage, drank (lots) and had some lovin' . And to my utter suprise he presented me with the most amazing Edwardian diamond ring. Was gob smacked to say the least. had dropped a few hints but thought all diamond credits been used up on engagement and wedding rings! Suffice to say the boy got lucky that night!

Libs and I stil got snotty colds. I lost my sense of smell for a week which was annoying (don't relaise how much you need it until it goes). Have still got phlemy cough (coupled with not smoking I now sound like I'm on 40 Marlboro Red a day!) and Libs is hacking away as well. I stopped the weaning last week as she was so poorly but have started again now as she's guzzling 8oz of milk and waking twice in the night. Last night gave her botle at 10ish and had to wake her at 8am . She's liking the creamed porridge but hates anything with bananas!
She's desperate to sit up and is trying to pull herself up to a sitting position when she's lying down.

Right, am a bit lost now. New thread means I can't go back and see what everyone's been up to. So will just send buckets of love to everyone and their LO. Hope everyone feeling perky (or at least perkier) and hope that most of the time you're enjoying motherhood.

G xx

I must remember to come here now :) I'm useless at finding my way around, and I'm supposed to be technologically minded .

Just a quick one to say I posted a few piccies on the Yahoo Site - I think it should be in a folder called "Lil starry 1's star". Not sure. Should probably check!

Ggirl - jealous much! I'd love to go somewhere romantic for the weekend! WOW at the ring too! Lucky girl! and lucky man :) Hope you're all feeling better soon, it seems this summer cold has hit most of us! YUK

Loomer - love the faux fur jacket, very cute :) As is the little one inside. Gosh don't they get big fast!

Love to all of you!

Oops, just realised Loomer there was a more modern album! So I had a look at that too. Still a real cutie!
Is that your DP/DH in the last picture?
I'm so nosey :)
xxx

Hey all, sorry I have been away so long, things have been getting on top of me and have been super sick. Thank goodness for mil as I couldn't actually get out of bed for 2 days. One way to drop those extra last pounds .
I've been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and have just started treatment for it after ds's birth. I'd started having flashbacks and getting to critical moments and doing the 'what if I'd said this' and 'what if I'd said that' and would it have changed things, what if we hadn't come back to NZ till after he was born etc etc, coupled with a lot of tears made for a bit of a mad household.
Off to see gynae next week to hopefully sort out all the ongoing issues there from the birth but I'm not holding out much hope at all which makes me feel sick to my stomach.
ds is great, blowing bubbles and full of life and laughter. He still isn't sleeping through and seems to be a good way from it which is scary when dd was doing 11-7 at 6wks. Not much I can do apart from get angry in the middle of the night and stress myself out futher .
Getting bloody freezing here at nights esp, very jealous of you guys going into summer.
Rach I couldn't find the stuff about your sis in NZ, is she OK? You'll just have to pop over and visit
Will update photo when I get a chance.

Just managed to add some new photo's to yahoo site. Have created new album. it's on the last page. Libs looks HUGE!

And how flinging flanging cute so all our bubs look? We produce good off-spring girls!

Chuffed - good grief. You've been thru the mill. Don't worry, you're not the only one that has sense of humour failure at 3am. Last thrus morn Libs decided it would be a jolly good wheeze to start the day at 3.30am (4am the morning before). Could cheerfully have thrown her thru the window after trying to settle her for an hour . But, what does not kill us makes us stronger (or look older!). G xx

I've just added some up to date piccies of Lola to the \link{http://health.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/mumsnetpix/photos\Yahoo Site} too.
I'm sorry some of you are having such a hard time. I've heard from Eshay today that her oldest has chicken pox and she's just waiting for the wee one to come down with it too now, poor soul.
Lola had her last lot of jabs on Wednesday there. She was a wee star, she cried for about 5 seconds per jab then was fine. We took her to chiropractor straight after as a precaution, and altho she was a wee bit grumpy in the evening she still went to sleep at 8pm and that was her til 8am. Last night she went down at 8pm and slept til 8.45 this morning. Couldn't believe it! I however didn't get to take advantage of it and sleep as I had a massive gall stones attack during the day yesterday and was awake all night itching all over (from excess bile in the bloodstream, lovely!). Hubby just got home from work 5 mins ago so I'm leaving him to it and going to bed for a couple of hours now.
Has anyone got any exciting plans for the weekend??

Have just added my photos to Yahoo - album is called barrelrider.

Lovely pics everyone :) how cute they all are!!

Just a quickie as D waking up.. chuffed, poor you. Hope the gynae can sort everything out.. I'm in the same boat, I don't think mine will ever get sorted either :( We'll just have to think positive (and Caesarean next time please!)

My hubby is out for the night and I'm feeling well fed up (not about that, just been a long week!) Having my first singing lesson ever tomorrow. Trying to do new stuff while life is changing so much in other ways, why not?

Georgie I am also very jealous about Babington house!

better go, have a good weekend all.xx

Halllloooo lovies (Shabaz/BB reference, sorry .
Hope you're all ok? Been a bit quiet! How was everyone's weekends?

All here is fine, have started weaning Bee. Much earlier than planned BUT she was completely insatiable and even her top up of formula wasn't sating! She's on baby rice, and she's loving it! She was grabbing at my food anyway, but I wanted to put it off as long as possible! However, having spoken to the HV she's showing all the signs of being ready, and as long as I take it slowly and work at her pace it should be fine!!

Off to the doctor tomorrow, I still have phlebitis and Bee's cold isn't really shifting. BAH. Also need to get some more baby rice - she's eating a free sample we received :o

Hope everyone else is diddling along dandily? I want the sun to come back, fed up of all the rain!

xxx

hi all just grabbing a quick minute to catch up days can go past and I don't get on the pc.

Talia is doing great all big gummy smiles. She had her last jabs yesterday and is now a whopping 17lbs 2ozs must be all that mummy milk. Still holding off on the weaning here for now. She's so dribbly though and constantly chewing her hands think those little teeth are bothering her. Am glad to know I'm not the only one suffering from lack of sleep still. She was going through from 11-5am at one point but the past 2 days she's went back to 2 night feeds chuffed I completely sympathise as Abbie went from 11-7am at 6 weeks, I did espect T to be similar.

So sorry to hear about you gals still suffering from the trauma of the births, I suppose I have been really lucky but it still is so traumatic even if you have a straightforward birth.

Will have to upload some pics onto the yahoo site soon.

Better cut this one short can hear her ladyship upstairs!

Hi girls,
Well poor lola had her 2nd immunisation this morning (have put it off long enough)and it was awful,she sobbed so muchi made my mom hold her as i couldn't bear it !I had her weighed as well (last time was at 8weeks)-15pound7!!!! and 65 cm long.
Her exema has settled down a bit now but she now is sneezing with runny eyes like her sister and me!Hayfever
I had my appointment come today ,to see a psychologist ,about my anxiety and depression and it feels good to know the ball is rolling but still weird that it has come to this.
How does this yahoo thingy work then?
Hope everyone is well?
Does anyones lo love Pocoyo?Lola is facinated by it!
Take care all xxxx

hello everybod.

jus popping my head in to say hi... is good to read what youve all been up to - havent a ghost of a chance of having time to comment individually but hugs and support and smiles and stuff to everyone.

oh too much to tell (minutea of daily life, prob not that interesting anyway, so i wont even start)

take care all,
nappies

Absolutely not keeping up here!

Very busy here, dp has a new job 9-5! hurrah for normal family life!

Ds2 was 10 yesterday and has been packed off to a residential camp with school for the rest of the week - horse riding, motorbiking, ski ing, abseiling - all in this weather!

Dp is taking the boys to the Millenium stadium to watch our team in the play offs for the championship and then we have a ten pin bowling party on sunday, phew!

Georgie - your dh sounds so lovely! :)

Chuffed - I'm glad you've got help for the PTSD - why is birth trauma so undervalued? By the way - there is no summer, someone cancelled it! :( my sister has finally kicked out her (not so d)h after nearly 17 years of marriage, not a moment to soon, made my ex look like Mr Wonderful. She had been taking seroxat for the last 11 yrs for PND, finally kicked that as well and 'the scales were lifted from her eyes!'

I must get on to yahoo and put some up to date pics on, have a lovely venture family shot and some cheesy baby pics!

Pelvicfloornomore - if no-one gets there before me I will post a link when I find it! You need to register a yahoo mail address that's all.

Re: all the weaning stuff (set to be the new controversial topic! although if I had a baby with reflux like you Lisa, I would probably do the same). I weaned the other 3 at 3/4 months as recommended then and most of it just shot through them into their nappy - I also know that it does ruin my milk supply. Finn was 17lb at 17 weeks and a big strong boy - can sit in the high chair already to socialise but I think I am going to wait it out until 6 months and try baby-led weaning (basically LO eats family finger food - will try and post a link to some really good practical documents I found on a yahoo site...)

Has anyone with an older child tried it before? Hunker/Sweetkitty? I know that there are links on the weaning threads too.

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Once a researcher, always a researcher!

Hey y'all

long time no post too. i feel so out of touch, sorry about that, i just never seem to get time to get on the computer, ds1 has his homework to do, msn to surf etc. as has dd, and life is a little hectic to say the least.

great to hear all your news though, and loving the shiny new thread.

loomer

very impressed with your links ability. must find out how to do that one of these fine days.

alex is thriving too, he was 17lb 6oz last week, still incredibly tall, almost growing out of my beautiful silver cross mary poppins pram . just got a fabulously practical stroller though, so that's good.

on the weaning side of life, i've given alex a taste of potato, which went straight through him, so i figured it was too soon. thanks for your experience rach, i'd pretty much forgotten all about it! 10 years is a long time between babies.

my pnd seems to be improving - more good days than bad at the moment, but it's interesting to read about your ptsd chuffed, i think there might be an element of that with me too, alex's birth was so frightening and panicky, and my perinium etc. is still not recovered. i'm not having flashbacks though, just get similar panicky feelings fairly often. in fact i'm booked in for some fanny physio at the local continence clinic in a few weeks. should be very glamorous!

georgie

great to hear from you as ever, have you ever considered a career in writing? reading your posts always makes me smile.

alex was awake at 1.30 3 and 4 last night and i gave up trying to get back to sleep at 5.30 ish, so i'm up at em already. i've managed to design the final draft of alex's christening invitation at last, so i'm glad that's done.

i've been trying to do a gina on alex in the past week or so, and on the whole i think the nights have improved. here's hoping that last night was just a blip. i managed not to feed him at all, i think it was teeth bothering him rather than hunger, so i gave him a homeopathic teething remedy and his dodie, and that seemed to do the trick.

the household is waking up now, so i'll say ta ra.

big hugs and love to all.
x

p.s. rach those links are not working for me.

Hey, all of a sudden everyone's sticking their heads above the parapet - funny how it happens like that eh?

Just a quickie to say various:

Georgie - what a wonderful hubbie you have, I'm soooo jealous of your break at Babington, you lucky lady!

Rach - Thanks for the links, but I'm getting "Document not found" on all of them, could you try again? I'm interested to read about BLW as I want to keep Scarlett on the boob to 6 months, but fear she is getting too hungry (more of which below)...

Sweetkitty - general lack of sleep here too, Scarlett seems to have regressed, going from a midnight and 3am feed only, to waking every three hours for the past four nights... don't know what's going on, but it's starting to do my head in!

Lyra - how do you get started on Gina? I've been trying to figure out whether to give it a go, as Scarlett's been a bit random of late, but not sure if you just jump in at the deep end and force the suggested routine onto her straight off (which seems a bit harsh), but how else do you do it?

weaning news - despite hoping to keep Scarlett entirely on the boob for the first 6 months, yesterday we gave her some baby rice for tea. She had started feeding more and more frequently, until yesterday she was crying for food every two hours. Also lots of putting toys in her mouth, and then getting really upset a few seconds later, as though frustrated with them not filling her tummy up. Apart from that she hadn't really shown any interest in food... so we tried the baby rice, and she ate quite a bit (no idea how much they should take at the first go?!?), and slept for seven hours solid shortly afterwards - the first time in about ten days.

So now I'm thinking that I should start weaning her, will try more baby rice this evening, although I'm really reluctant! What's everyone else up to with this? Lilstarry, how is Bee getting on with it?

Right, the Lady is calling me, must dash! Kisses to all you lovelies xx

loomer

i started with the easy 3 hour routine (i.e. eat, activity, sleep, your time, from the baby whisperer i think, altho i've not read it myself) did that for about 2 weeks, found that alex was more settled, then tried the gina routine from about a week ago.

i'm just making him hang on for his 11.30 feed now, hence the sparse typing! we're bouncing on the b ball in an attempt to boing my pelvic floor back into shape.
x

Hi Ladies,

I have not been on here in absolute ages. Gosh, I seem to say that every time I write post... I am glad there is a new thread as now I can pretend I haven't actually missed that much.

I am sorry to hear some of us are struggling with various ailments. I guess I have been quite lucky, despite two labours plus emergency Caesareans.

I see there is talk about weaning. I have actually just given Alex a bit of baby rice twice now as he was waking up in the night again. I give it to him at 11 but only the tiniest amount. Maybe one weaning spoon of rice plus loads of milk so it's nice and runny. He quite liked it but then yesterday he was not hungry for ages so maybe it's too early after all. No rice for him today.

As for starting on Gina Ford, she suggests to find the routine that comes closest to what your baby is doing at the moment and work your way towards that. Then, gradually move on to the routine appropriate for their age. Alex is a semi-GF baby. I follow her general ideas but not to the letter and it is working pretty well. It did take ages for him to be able to stay awake as long as she suggested but now he is older he is fine.

DS1 had chickenpox last week so I am waiting for Alex to come down with it one of these days. For this reason he has not had his 3rd set of jabs yet. It will have to wait a little while. Does anyone know if there is a problem if the doses are spread out more than a month or so apart?

Hi Eshay - good to see you back on here, and no worries on the sporadic posting - I'm guilty of the same... it's just a consequence of busy lives!

Thanks for the advice on breaking into a GF pattern. I will have a think about how I can make a start. As far as the jabs go, my HV told me that the only reason there is a one month gap between them is because in the past there were problems with parents forgetting to go back for the 2nd or 3rd set: so they have put them closer together simply to help us to remember! It doesn't matter if your LO has a bigger gap between - so long as they get them all in the end.

Hi Loomer, I just reread your earlier post and it does really sound like your DD is craving some extra food, with that massive sleep after her rice meal. Now, I just had a thought. If you don't want to give her any solids yet, but you do want to give her more food, could you try giving her 1 bottle of formula before bed time? Please forgive me if this is something you don't want to do. You could express at that time to make sure your supply doesn't go down, just to see if that will help her go longer. If you do start trying to get DD on GF - she talks about starting weaning at 4 months so that might be just right for you and your hungry girl.

hi gals good to see so many people posting on here, never seem to have the time/energy

On the weaning front I have just posted a cry for help on the Breastfeeding topic as DD2 has been feeding like mad and I thought I would never get to 6 months. Theres some great advice on there from tiktok and mears. Basically a few spoonfuls of babyrice isn't going to make much of a difference as it is very low in calories compared to breastmilk. What the baby needs is more milk and feeding more often is their way of stimulating your boobs to make more milk (probably the same idea with draining bottles frequently too) when you do sit and think about it half a dozen spoonfuls of baby rice (I don't think I'm even going to bother with baby rice this time it's foul and I have a rule I wouldn't give them anything I woulnd't eat myself) isn't going to make much of a difference. I have thought about a bottle of formula but thats not the answer either. Milk, milk and more milk seems to be the key.

Also they all go through the stuff everything in their mouth phase, it's a developmental phase and they actually feel with their mouths it's nothing to do with hunger.

I went down the BLW route last time more through DD1 refusing a spoon and eating everything with her fingers. I do have something against shoving spoonfuls of puree into a small baby I prefer to let them do it themselves if that makes any kind of sense.

Have a dig around the weaning/breast and bottle feeding threads on here there is loads of great stuff about why you should hold off weaning.

Sorry that seems like a bit of a rant it wasn't meant to be I know it's difficult but try to hold off the weaning a bit longer before long they will be mushing biscuits into your carpet and you'll wish they were still breastfed!

Sorry about the links! I think the problem is that I am diverting you through a yahoo group that you have to be a member of (BLW). I have now tried to upload the documents onto 'our' yahoo mumsnetpix site - go to the home page and click on 'files' (instead of photos) and hopefully they will be there! :) if not and you are interested email me on [email protected] and I'll send them individually. They give really good info about weaning with finger foods even if you intend to start before 6 months. If you are breastfeeding introducing solids will definitely reduce your supply - your baby will feel more full/less hungry but they will actually be getting less nutrients/calories than breastmilk or formula would give them.

Let me know if this has worked, btw I pinched these off another yahoo group - I hope they don't mind!

\link{http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mumsnetpix/files/\baby led weaning docs}

If you aren't already a member of the yahoo mumsnetpix group you need to join :)

Ok have gone incognito!

Hello All,

I just thought I'd stop by for a quick check, was surprised and happy to see so many people had posted :)

How are you all doing? We always post about our babies (obviously) but often forget about ourselves (how true of day-to-day life eh?!). Well, to get the proverbial ball rolling, I'm fine and dandy thanks. Almost crippled with guilt by the early weaning, but I've spoken to several 'professionals' (not men in white coats!), and they've all assured me weaning should be baby led.. which it was. More of that in a minute. Back to how us mums are doing... I'm really enjoying being a mum, I need to do stuff otherwise I get a little bored, but there always seems to be something I can busy myself with. In July I'm going to be looking after my friends daughter (she'll be 8 months). I must be crazy :) I keep reassuring myself that two under one can't be much harder than one.. EEK

So, weaning - I was completely determined to wait until 6 months, however - I've been topping Bee up with formula every evening, a few weeks ago she was feeding HOURLY. It wasn't too much of a problem during the day, but at night - well. I upped her formula, but she was taking so much and then getting sick... The final clue came when she grabbed something off my plate and ate it. So, I gave her a small amount of baby rice, expecting her to gum it out, On the contrary, she ate the whole lot - and wanted more. I've been giving her more and more over a week, and have now introduced carrots and a few finger things to try! She eats it all .I was thinking/hoping it was just a phase and she'd soon lose interest, but so far it hasn't happened. She can also feed herself! Not brilliantly but we give her the spoon and she puts it into her mouth and sucks. So I followed my instincts. It hasn't provided miracle cures with sleep, the first night she slept almost the night through - but she's back to waking at 3 for a feed. I don't mind, to me it shows she's just a hungry baby. She wasn't putting on weight as quickly as the HV would have liked, hence the top up of formula..I'm doing everything to help my milk supply (inc a really yummy tea my mums nutritionist friend made me!).

Oops, tis taken me a day to update . I fear my rambling may just send you all to sleep. Hope everyone is well, have a fantabulous weekend
xx

Hi there one and all

Funnily enought Lyra, I did use to write for a living! In a previous life I used to work in PR and churn out press releases on all manner of things....best (or worst) had to be the press release about the launch of a new colostomy bag . One clever dick in the office piped up with, 'hey Georgie, you not only talk sh&t, you now write about it was well' .

Am glad to see that everyone is pretty chirpy.... if not completely run off their feet and shattered all the time. Last 2 nights Libs has slept from 7pm-7am. Might be a blip. But I'm more knackered than ever now.

Libs and Mollie are doing really really well. Much sisterly love going on. Which is great because apparently I hated my bro and was forever asking when he was going back. We used to reduce our mum to tears because we fought like cat and dog for 20 odd years. Now I think he's the best thing since sliced bread.

Weaning is going well. She's loving her tea. Big fan of Hipp creamed rice dessert (no baby rice here either. Reminds me of polyfilla!). And also quite partial to mashed potato. Will take my lead from her re: lunch and breakfast. She seems v happy with milk at other times. Seems so diff from when I weaned Moo at 16 weeks. By this age she was on 3 squares a day.

Bugger, Lady Libs has woken. Better dash.

Much love to y'all. Have a great bank holiday.

G xx

Am I the only one who likes baby rice

I don't actually use BABY rice. I buy organic rice and grind it..

Tastes good to me

(runs and hides)