November 2012 - Does it seem like half a year?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1730706-November-2012-The-new-quiche-sleepy-dust-crop-sprayer-plane-seems-to-be-working

Sweet nights sleep wishes to all. C went down fine but has been pretty grunty/singy/ wailing for dummy since 7. Does this bode ill? Probably!

Is the quiche in general a believer/follower of the Wonder Weeks stuff? C is smack bang in the middle of a WW (19 weeks, 20 tomorrow) and while she made gestures at rolling (unsuccessfully) a few weeks ago, she seemed to have abandoned that but started up again today. Got 80% of the way of a front to back roll at bathtime, plus has also become interested in feet. I wonder if the last few night's abominable sleep has been due to her little brain trying hard and not quite succeeding at all this new stuff. She has a lot of the WW-listed symptoms too, such as reduced appetite, clinginess, poorer head control, becoming frustrated by failure. I really hope she rolls in the next day or so and becomes a happier/more restful baby.

I sewed something today! Sure, it's a super easy tote bag (and not very well done) but fuck it, I was productive! I can do it! It's the first thing I've sewed since C was born, can you tell?

Dunno about the quiche but wonder weeks looks like a lazy catchall situation to me. I don't think it has anything more to offerthan any other list of developmental jumps. But I was bombarded on Facebook by ww obsessives amongst my rl friends, and when that happens I always smell a rat :o

He's back in cot and I am in bed. I need a shitload of sleepy dust as I've already had to go in and do hand holding!

I've just had to do handholding too izzy S has just woken herself up screaming. I'm surprised she didn't wake dp up it was so loud bless her.

I think, PR, that the concept of developmental leaps is what has merit, not necessarily that the WW list is the definitive list.

I am probably biased towards a book written by a clinical psychologist though.

PR I have the same opinion of WW (not giving water to ticks) - if the behaviour happens a few weeks either side - devotees still attribute it to WW. My sister followed it obsessively. Also I'm meant to use J's due date - when in reality he's doing things much closer to his non-adjusted age. Its interesting but that's about it. Our worst nights have never been during a 'stormy' period - always during 'sunny' - I look at the app with wry nervousness

jupiter I'm so sorry. That's really shit. It sounded so promising as well. I hope that you manage to successfully appeal. Do you have a back up plan? Big hugs coming your way.

Well I've not long got back from a shopping trip to bluewater. This lovely weather has made me realise I have bugger all in the way of summer clothe that fit me. I bought 3 pairs if trousers and 2 tops. They are very different from the things I normally wear but I thought I needed to change things up a bit. Bought DD1 3 cute outfits too. I can't go into a kids clothes shop without buying her something. I'm a sucker for kids clothes.

I caved I caved I'm pikz2

YW I find O is much closer to his born age rather than his EDD too. He's not done much other than smile on time according to his EDD. Where as if you use his age, he's done everything pretty much bob on when he should.

Am so sleeeepy. Fc tonight's longest stint will be more than 3 hrs :( poor e.

Sounds like o is raring to go with weaning det :) bless him he sounds like he's really enjoying it :)

chasing sounds like your o knows what he wants too :)

Evenin.

Fuckers JJ. You must be gutted.

My WWF name is kerrymct. I am awful. Just dreadful. Play me if you want to feel better about yourself!

P is perfecting rolling backwards and forwards. She only ever rolls from back to front when I am not looking though. Today I noticed she had done it when I left the room so I chucked captain calamari about 1.5 feet ahead of her and walked away. When I came back she was with captain calamari and nomming his tenticles. She was still on her front so I can only imagine it was a very slow crawl of sorts. Tried to get her to repeat it but I left CC too close and she just reaches out and grabbed him. Poor squid

detective M says happy joint five month birthday to O
She's been a giggly, happy little thing all day.
Lets hope she sleeps longer don't count on it

I'm liking pr recommending the glycerin pozzies, keeps me in work

But development leaps have been mentioned by psychologists for decades. WW is just another version, slightly tweaked and marketed enough to jump on the current parenting market which is making a mint at the moment. I have a book given to my granny when my mum was born in 1945, and the basis of developmental leaps hasn't changed (but some of the medical or psych research has taught us more) Look at any parenting site, for free, and they all have the same stuff. The basics. There is a French psychologist, elizabeth Badinter who has written many books where it is all covered too. WW are just the in thing at the moment. Like BLW is already past its most evangelical phase, it's all reinventing the wheel. But they add a bit, or take a bit out and it becomes A Thing For Mums to Get Stressed About.

And I'll save the rest of that rant for sweary Wednesday :o

And WW are vague enough to suit both ends of the current parenting fad scales. Rigid enough for gina ford, nice and flexible enough for attachment parenting advocates. Ker-ching $$$$.

sorry, I must sound a lot angrier than I am. Just watching the uk from abroad and the whole angst round everything that is baby related makes me pretty sceptical.

Melanie Klein was another dev psychologist who wrote papers on developmental leaps. That was back in the 60 s and 70 s. there's another big name. Even Rousseau, a couple of centuries ago had already worked a fair amount out.

I think you may be the most cynical person I have ever met, PR

:o you haven't met me yet.

I'm cheery and smiley with it. Promise :o

I do have an issue with the parenting market in the uk and us though. It's as if a whole bunch of people were saying, let's cash in on parenting insecurities by sending out a whole mix of opinions and summaries of research. They'll buy books, and educational toys and dvds and all kinds of crap because, let's face it, it does take a village to raise a child and we don't have that village anymore. So we'll make one. And another. And make money out of it.

I'm not saying that all these experts don't have anything of worth to say. Just that no one is absolutely right. They can't be. But ww is one in particular which seems to cash in more than actually teach us anything new. Rant over.

Let's talk about pretty flowers, and butterflies, and kittens...

I'm a cynical bastard too PR.

You would have enjoyed my study day at the weekend. We ripped the UK media to shreds as one of the sessions we did.

Fucks sake. Awake and nooning already. A whole 2 hours later

In the hope it will get my brain back in gear. Thought I'd check out this WWF craze.
I'm gtmummy. Yet to start a game .
Didnt catch up on much. But PR i love ur rants. U always sound so intelligent and well read. Im more like... blha blha blha. And i dont care what u think I AM RIGHT. Kinda ranter.

Anyway! Off to sleep.

Will catch up n post in morning

Awww ur all Playing scrabble! I'm rubbish at that!

Morning

What PR said

There are advantages to not being able to afford this crap

Fuckity bollocks (it is sweary Wednesday, right?!)

She just woke but wasn't whinging so I ignored her left her a bit, just to see. And she self-settled!!!! And then coughed and woke herself up again :( And that was that. She is now comfort sucking feeding. Bugger. Well, at least she did it so I know she can.

I am not even going to attempt Words With Friends - I'm rubbish at Scrabble.