November 2012 - Does it seem like half a year?

[StuntNun]

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And I'm down for nights in the middle of May. So fucking glad I won't be doing those....!!!

Gah, nightshifts. This time next year I will be on a crippling rota, including such delights as the 8pm - 2am shift. Vile. I'm assuming that will mean I get precisely 4 hours sleep fuuuuuuuck

F finally settled at 9.45, 2 hours later than usual. She better be planning on sleeping all night after that. Suspect she will have a different agenda though.

Sophia you have fab happy children who I'm sure don't give a monkeys about the overflowing ironing basket. DD1 also went to bed without brushing her teeth tonight. She was being a moody mare, it was just going to be a battle and I simply couldn't face it The door thing is easily done and the car thing isn't your fault. Like pass I am also getting a cleaner when i go back to work, is that something you could think about? Hope you get a good night's sleep and feel better tomorrow

Must really stop encouraging co sleeping. Ill regret it.
Had LO In Bed with me all week at my mums. I'm bk today. N DH on a night shift. N I'm tiered n can't b bothered to get up at 3am.
He is not a fussy sleeper. If I moved him to cot now he would b fine. But I'm worried ill break his non fussyness and one day he will refuse to sleep in his cot! But to tiered to care right now lol.

Another rambling can't sleep post by gt

Second wake of the night, knew yesterday was too good to last

just done a catch up and forgotten everything

sounds like many in need of stunt, kirrin, Luis, bplp, kyz - am sure there's more...

I'm sorry lo was so upset chasing and your inlaws are being so frustrating. I get on your behalf about their attitude towards your 'd'p

it was my martial arts event weekend (capoeira) I missed last year as was 11 weeks but banned from school due to slapped cheek non immunity, and I'd booked the school for our event as it's shiny and new. so was determined to hobble along sleep deprivation or no! was that Dh was so hung over after Friday. they had won some awards for their first big building that they did when they set up 2 years ago but he and his partner who's also about to be a dad really do need to loose this bachelor 'I can stay out cos a wanna' thing. it's really clouded our weekend as i needed to rely on dh to attend any of this stuff. still, I did an hour or so on sat and watched today and now ache all over

lo absolutely loved it though!! he watched the games at the end (lots of Brazilian singing, drumming and clapping) for a full hour kicking his legs excitedly! I was so proud :)

and they'd made him a little capoeira event baby grow which made me so happy too as I've missed them all. it's a huge community and some of my closest friends I met through it.

however getting increasingly about sleep. like someone else lo goes 2-3 hours max between feeds all night but is at least feeding now for around 10 mins though that seems to drain my breast. my thrush is being managed now but his is still there I'm getting resigned to the fact that he'll always do this. he used to go 4 hours initially and even 5 briefly but that was over 6 weeks ago. he's 19 wks on Monday

we have bought some formula cartons. Im dithering about introducing due to the thrush but some of me wonders if it will help or not - he often seems to wake cos of wind tbh! vq yes that's why I .bf too!

hope toddlers enjoyed birthdays!

sleep dust to you all x

oh Sophia you need too!

as others said you're back at work (which is a downer in its self) don't worry about house work and ironing etc. can you dump a load of stuff at one of those ironing places? just to help out. hope you feel better soon

Oh pidj, these babies do like to keep us on our toes. I hope you're all asleep now.

clarella we're 19 weeks here too and something funny is still going on with sleep (ie the regression!). 4 weeks ago C slept 7.5 hours straight - now we might get a 5 once a week, and 3 is much more expected. So probably we're not out of the woods. Straw poll: for those with excellently sleeping babies who had regressed - when did things improve?

sophia apparently slapping with a fish is the thing to do?

luis, hope your absence on here is due to sleepfulness.

Looks like a quiet night in here. Hope you all had good nights.

stunt in response to your question there is no French word for shart, I had to use the correct terminologý

kyz wobbly is another word for which there is no decent translation, certainly nothing as apt as wobbly. I suppose you would say instable, or bouge beaucoup dans tous les sens (moves a lot in every direction). But nothing like wobbly. Shame but French has far fewer words than English.

Forgot to answer those yesterday.

They get annoyed if you make words up too. There is no word for poosplosion (as I suppose there isn't in English either really) so I say cacastrophe, caca being poo. Every time I get corrected and they say no, it's caTastrophe, and I have to explain it. Not that I go round saying it often but with the ex childminder, my in laws etc. I have stopped now. ItS my in joke with myself

det tbh if I were you, I would actually be pleased I hadn't had to converse with them and that they had just wiped me off as sick. I really hope your fanjo starts to heal it must be a bloody nightmare. Has gone on for much longer than mine did and that was bad. That said, my fourth birth seems to have overwritten any remaining niggles so have hope.

Seems like more of you are having good nights, woop woop.

Kyz I don't rate E45, especially for babies' skin. I suspect it is heavily pushed by the manufacturer. Try some emollient cream such as Oilatum, Aveeno, Dermol or Cetroban. Avoid aqueous cream like the plague! It's probably just dry skin, eczema would be more likely to look sore and inflamed. It doesn't really matter as the treatment is the same - apply the cream frequently.

I do declutter around DH Kyz but I can't do much about his stuff. I cleared a load of stuff from under the desk - guitar pedals, cases, steering wheel, briefcase, etc. Now I can study with my legs under the desk for the first time in two years! But I put it all in a bin bag so he'll probably end up putting it back as there's nowhere else to put it. I don't actually mind the whisky Pass as I bought him a lovely walnut drinks cabinet to put them all in.

Clarella and MaMa we were still in full on sleep regression at 19 weeks, it will suddenly get better soon.

J woke umpteen times during the night and I am shattered. I'm wondering if it's because DH left him to CIO yesterday. He said he was settling him to sleep but when I went in J was bawling his lamps out in his cot. DH hadn't put his pyjamas or sleeping bag on or read him a story and he had a dirty nappy. No wonder he wasn't self-settling. Might have to try and engineer some quality cot time today to get him over it.

He did 3-6:15 in the end, so better than i feared. Unfortunately i spent the night having nasty dreams about being out of control, so feel like shit. Doesn't help that i dropped the stick blender on my big toe yesterday which has left a nice half moon cut and giant bruise. Off to eat naice ham and cake with a crocheting friend today though which will cheer me up and give dp a chance to rest!

I'm so using cacastrophe, dp worked in Paris for a while so will get it :o

R's sleep has turned a corner in the last week or so - 22 weeks today - which should give some of you hope. I think this crapper one was because he needed to nap (10 mins) at 5:30 but dinner was ready and i thought it was later so i made him stay awake. So he was exhausted and fell asleep an hour early. 2 weeks ago I'd have been thrilled with that much sleep

Cacastrophe - love it. Oh those frogs with no sense of humour. I can just see the scene of them patiently explaining the correct pronunciation while you roll your eyes.

Ok night here - I mean, up loads but not every hour. Glad to hear hints could actually get better?!

Oh no, lots of hugsneeded this morning

Sophia you are amazing xxxx

I have a QQ. I bought some TT formula dispensers yesterday. The instructions say fill bottle with boiling water and then put required amount of formula into dispenser. Put dispenser in top of bottle and then leave until needed. Now my issue with this is, the formula will then be made up with cold water when you are ready? Not 70deg. But the physics of it mean the formula dispenser will be submerged in boiling water when you make the bottle up. Would that kill the germs? There is so much conflicting advice !

Mm. I don't believe submerging dispenser kills germs. N actually found using it that way a pain. Water can get into the formula. I just keep them separate. I found the 3 section dispenser more useful. Bought mine from tesco for about £3. Advent do one if u want to look for the style online.
TT one has to many bits. And I don't sterilise mine every day. But that's a choice u make yourself.
As for adding Formula to cooled boiled water that's a whole different kettle of fish discussions right there.

Det started a thread called Formula feeders faff free Fred. Have a look for tips on making formula up.

I'm hoping the fact it was quiet overnight meant that babies were actually sleeping?

After Fs late night, she was still up at 2. I was supremely lazy and ended up cosleeping from then. She seems happier this morning and has found her voice again which means the reflux is improving. It's a very odd thing, to have a baby who stops cooing and starts croaking like a frog.

pr loving the cacatrophe (not literally, tthat would be gross). And there's nothing wrong with personal jokes. I have one or two hundreds that dh wouldn't get, so often find myself sniggering, alone

Just an average night here last night, up a few times and in bed with me at 5:30 where he clung to me until he woke up. Poor sod. He also wouldn't ne put down for his first nap so j am pinned to the sofa. I really wish I knew when he would start sleeping for longer stretches at night, it is starting to get to me a bit now

MM the most important thing is to add the powder to water above 70 degrees. You could take a flask of hot water, a sterilised bottle and the formula and make them up fresh when out and about. Cartons are also good.

Luis have you decided on a plan of attack for your knee?

VQ and Chunky I would love to hear how your dds' birthdays went. I am so looking forward to throwing O birthday parties. Have already started planning his first birthday in my head

I'm also pinned to the sofa - nothing changes!

I am listening to my baby resolutely not settling and will soon be pinned to sofa with the rest of you.

kyz I second something like aveeno which has worked wonders on lo's skin and ours!

oh dear stunt sorry you're still battling sleep. I'm starting to question this regression thing though - I think g is just a terrible sleeper with terrible wind issues I watched him trying to 'self sooth' while his tummy rumbled and he farted and it's usually writhing that wakes him. (maybe bed side cot gives too much info!) or is this totally normal?!

I'm questioning the trimethoprim today though as the thrush is still on his tongue and I'm convinced it gives him wind - it's listed in the side effects.

I'm feeding to sleep pinned to the bed!

gt I keep having LO in bed with me after about 4am, he's so snuffly he just doesn't settle well ATM :( I hope it doesn't cause long term problems but it's my current solution to the lack of sleep we're both having! Fc your LO will be fine :)

Aw pp glad it wasn't tooooo bad in the end

clarella sounds like you had a lovely time! Can't remember when LO went back to normal ignoring last few nights but his didn't last too long really

pr cacastrophe is brilliant! No wonder they never seem to find anything funny over there, they're missing out on made up words! Do they have any funny phrases, like we say stuff like makes my teeth itch or tickled me pink?

Thanks stunt it doesn't look too sore but the patches are red and have just gone all over since using the e45. I just used it because I got told to and thought it would be ok, but it's not done him any favours! Doctors at 10:10

Do you perhaps have an attic to stick stuff in stunt? That's what I do with most of it. He rarely even notices I've moved it! Poor j, hope he's alright in his cot again soon

mm if Tilly is on a regular formula could you use the cartons? I so would if Eric wasn't on AR milk

my biggest issue is I've ended up putting him propped on my breastfeeding pillow after a 4 or 5am feed - and at the moment that's the longest he then sleeps but then I'm just not able to function if I don't get that extra bit of sleep. its terrible I know but a) he cant roll, b)actually sleeps (till wind wakes him crying) and c) is such a light sleeper he'd wake if he did roll and d) I don't know what the fuck else to do. he doesn't even sleep on me anymore at that time

co sleeping only makes the bf easier he doesn't sleep any batter like 2 of my friend's babies.

better

Clarella when I cosleep, it involves F lying on her side cuddled into my arms and chest - not feeding or even able to - and with our duvet over her legs. Or I hoik her up the bed so her torso is on my pillow and she is touching noses with me. I know she can't go anywhere as my arms stop her rolling.

No idea what proper co-sleeping is
Think I break every rule in the book by doing the above