October 2012... PELVIC FLOORS!

[Londonmrss]

Ready...
Steady...
And squeeze!

[hufflepuffle]

It worked!!!!!!!!!! It worked!!!!!!!!!

DH gave him 200ml FFS but yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zara1984]

Woohoo!!! So glad it worked Huffle!

Right, so with making bottles. Defo make them up in advance and keep them in the back of the fridge for up to 24 hours. This is what we've always done. We make the next day's feeds up when DS has gone to bed. World Health Organisation sez it's ok , so it's fine. Yes I know the formula box says to make each one fresh but you will go demented if you do that, or spend ridiculous amounts on the cartons!

[WantAnOrange]

crazy DD is 19 weeks as well so let's hope she moves on soon. I'm knackered!

I'm in a right strop about PILs behaviour. Today, DH mentioned that we had got DS some new school shoes and FIL said "Oh, I was going to do that". And, at the weekend they showed up with a bag of school trousers from M&S. WTF? I still can't fathom why DH said "ok", instead of "why?". AIBU or are they just being nobbing patronising now. I can provide school uniform for my own kid FFS! DH doesnt get why I'm cross and thinks they are just "trying to be helpful".

[Mikyahrose]

lisbeth. I'm using hydrocortisone morning and night and was prescribed something called 'doublebase' to use as often as possible throughout the day. In 3 days his skin is amazing. Not a spot of eczema. And it was all over him Monday morning.

[Londonmrss]

Wantan I can see why you're pissed off- is a little patronising. But they probably are just trying to be helpful and they don't realise how it comes across.
Huffle, yey for the bottle-taking minihuffle!
October, any puking yet? Hope all is ok.

Moving day on Saturday so I'm trying to pack everything while my husband is at the new house building the furniture. I hate moving and I still think the world would be a better place if there was no such thing as estate agents. Or any agents for that matter. Or banks. Or Tories. Or Rupert Murdoch. Although I guess he is a Tory. But I digress...

How do I not let moving completely destroy any sense of routine and security for LO? I'm planning to take her out for a walk while the flat is emptied into a van, then we'll all drive to new house and I'll go for another walk while the van is emptied into the new house. Naps will go to shit and who the fuck knows what will happen to feeding, but I just don't want her to feel to unsettled by being in a completely new place surrounded by boxes.

[smileyhappymummy]

lisbeth hydrocortisone is v mild steroid so don't worry about using but I think if baby wasn't improving after 7 days treatment I'd want to see again and review. Basically eczema treatment should be regular emollient like double base (or we've got epaderm) and lots of it then little bits of steroid cream to manage inflamed flare ups. Soap substitutes for bath also useful.
huffle woohoo for baby huffle! Re expressing bra thing still can't get pm to work on here can I message you my address on Facebook group please?
Had a nice day today with friend and her kids and had some more rolls and big grins / chuckles from baby smiley, reminds me of just how cool she really is! Just trying to settle her then planning m and s dine in meal before next sleepless night - but feel more positive now. Also love seeing my big one with her, they just adore each other and dd1 gets baby's biggest grins.

[smile4me]

yomping rant away re teeth worries... DD has pretty crap latch, probably partly cos I have quite flat nipples, sucks on nipple and small amount of areola or just nipple on a bad day. No problems with teeth so far... could feel them scratching a bit for a couple of days, but seems to have disappeared now. IKWYM about the impatient shrieking too!

[Angelico]

Smiley glad you have an appt!

Bella enjoy the M&S meal for 2 :o (Tried to get one earlier but couldn't face fighting through the crowd of women with buggies and a mad gleam in their eyes... Also our local one has no off license so no cava, boo hiss!

FirstTime hope the probe thing went okay You've inspired me to get our jumperoo out and put it together at the weekend.

Cherry meant to say the 100 day ceremony thing sounds lovely, especially tiny cute baby kimono. One thing I loved about Japan - they do great ritual!

Crazy thanks - will use the cup and just accept the madness! I'm a slovenly housekeeper anyway so no idea why idea of bean's mess makes me crazy Also contemplating Tripp trapp chair because love the idea of them growing with bean. Have heard mixed reviews of them.

Wantan I wouldn't be offended, I would just grab the clothes and run :o Seriously though, they probably mean well. We haven't been able to buy DD a bloody thing so far, we got so many clothes as presents and I refuse to spend more money on them. We do have one totally hilarious... how can I put this ... outfit of questionable taste :o It's so awful I actually kind of love it :o Going to put it on her at home to get photo for posterity but probably won't let her out of house in it unless I can find an 80's theme party for babies.

Cheesy that woman sounds bonkers. Bean is quite happily playing on her mat, ignoring us and chirruping at the elephant. She doesn't strike me as a child in emotional agony! Totally see what you mean about how that could make someone feeling vulnerable feel ten times worse. Again though, she probably didn't mean anything by it.

Baby groups I love them - but I'll talk to anyone. Best thing to do is admire babies, ask how old they are etc, comment on something cool they are doing. Conversation tends to follow. Let's face it, we all love being told about our bean's fabulousness! :o

Huffle hurrah for the bottle! Got a couple of Variflow teats today to add to the size 2's.

London can you set up DD's room first? Put out changing stuff / toys / travel cot type stuff to give her mini base full of cosy familiar stuff? Good luck with move!

Boobs finally seem to have caught up with expressing. Going to express five oz every day and that means 4 non-creche days (Fri-Mon) I can freeze stuff.

And also after my fears last night about bean / deep sleep she decided to wake 4 fecking times just to prove how UNDEEPLY she was sleeping...

[hufflepuffle]

Thanks Zara! I did read that last night but just wanted to be sure I wasn't being a lazy bitch behind the times!

Going to stick wuth ready made for day or 2 just incase it tastes different.

Smiley no probs, message away. I had forgotten about......

Wantan not knowing your family in some ways they sound lovely and generous but obviously is not as simple as that!! You need to calmly explain to DH that you are annoyed by this continued practice and he needs to politely tell them you can manage perfectly well!! Easy in type, isn't it?! Bugger, families are so difficult.

London very best of luck and good spirits for Saturday! Not looking forward to our own move. Mostly concerned about disturbing whatever night sleep routine we have by then. But as DH is the builder and we are already over 6 months behind I'm not holding breath.......

October hope DS is ok

So DS had 7oz at 6pm and had now drained a 2hour overfull boob in 8 minutes. Not seen him look so drink since about a month old!! Oh god i will panic all night now! 5oz maximum tmrw DH!!! We are currently 8-9 feeds a day so I think that's plenty.

Cheesy what nonsense!!!!!!!!! Stupid cow, fragile mums don't need such crap!!!!

Lisbeth I once worked in a practice where kids got lollipops after had eye exam. Mums were horrified. I refused to give them!! Telling them about it before they even eat is just stupid!! Daftness Indeed

Yomping you ok pet??

Nice early night for me. DH in spare room. Romance is not dead........!

[lisbethsopposite]

Thanks for that Smiley. I'm using epaderm ... but must say had eased up - from 20 times a day to 2. Skin not fully resolved after the week but I'll try to be more thorough with the epaderm and return to Dr. if not good after weekend.

BTW Thanks to whoever on here mentioned Puckababy. My little Houdini was getting out of every swaddle and I had bought several. I was sleeping with my arm thrown across him. Puckababy saved my life - and his.

This thread reminds me of boarding school - not an uncommon form of second level school in 80s Ireland - we are all doing the same thing at the same time. There it was rise, mass, breakfast, chores, school, lunch.... For us it is pregnancy woes, which I can hardly remember now, labour prep, labour recovery, the start of the love affair, the dip in the love affair etc.
Whatever one is doing or experiencing, someone else has had it too.
Must say I personally never had the reflux issues but on the other hand, I think I'm the only one that had a cyst like a gobstopper in their vagina
TBH I'd prefer the cyst - I lost no sleep to it.
Night all, sleep well beans - and that is an order!

[OctoberOctober]

DS seems fine, thank fuck. Although thinking about it, I may have thrown 2 fresh bottles in the bag during the protracted course of leaving the house. Not had any issue like this before, I don't tend to leave old bottles lying around so I am hoping this wasn't the case anyway. Still feel bloody stupid though, even though I know it can be a mission leaving the house sometimes. He had the bottle at midday so would have been poorly by now if there was an issue, right? Really hoping we are in the clear.

huffle so that is a good lesson in what NOT to do with bottles... We tend to make 4 up at a time ie the amt that go in the sterilizer, so make bottles roughly twice a day and they are generally kept for upto 12 hours. Making every bottle fresh just isn't feasible and as Zara says, not every country seems to advocate this, in fact I'm not sure where else does -US Oz and NZ all recommend it is safe to refrigerate for upto 24 hrs.

[Angelico]

October glad your DS is okay. The whole not making bottles up thing seems bonkers. At creche DD goes to you have to measure water into bottles, then measure powder into separate container for staff to mix on site. And they're pretty laid back so assuming this is all creches in UK doing same Presumably they have to cover themselves in case some numpty has made a bottle up a week earlier and just fired it in.

One of the staff initially refused to take bottle for DD even when I pointed out it was expressed milk and can be kept in fridge for several days, never mind a couple of hours.

[Elpis]

DH and I did not have an enjoyable evening meal.

I cooked (I cook every weeknight) and he complained that he didn't like dishes with large pieces of tomato because they were hotter than the rest of the dish.

I PLAN AND COOK TWELVE VARIED AND NUTRITIOUS MEALS EVERY WEEK that you and your daughter will eat and you have a bloody problem with hot tomato?

But I did not rise to that. No. When the subject of new kitchen chairs came up - ours are falling apart and the covers are a shag to wash, which of course is also my job - I asked if any of the Ikea ones I had suggested had appealed. They had not. What was our budget, I asked. It was double whatever I was prepared to pay.

Ladies, I have just been stripped of my job title. My pre-tax salary is less than a quarter of DH's yet we split bills and childcare. My company is making compulsory redundancies. How the fuck am I supposed to find half of the cost - especially when the cheapest chairs I suggested were rejected by him? I am not being unreasonable, am I? I am so angry.

[Elpis]

Split bills and childcare in half, I mean. Plus when I inherited £190k from my mother I put £170k of it straight into the mortgage. Plus I have had three hours away from my children since September. This is not fair.

He gave me a Valentine's card that said he was looking forward to a time when the most romantic thing about our evenings wasn't bathing the children. Yet another dig at the fact that I want(ed) children more than he did.

Nobber.

[smileyhappymummy]

elpis you are definitely not being unreasonable. That sounds like a shitty evening and your dh is being a nobber. I think you sound like you are being very generous to him (cooking every weeknight - you are superwoman!) and he needs to give a bit more back.
On the subject of kitchen chairs, sounds to me like he should be buying them anyway if he doesn't like the ones thwt fit the budget.
Nobber. Hugs for you (I gather that hugs are un-mnetty but I don't care.)

[Angelico]

Elpis he is a nobber. I am actually reading that and will now lie awake feeling And tbh if you had posted that over in relationships you'd have people telling you he's financially abusive :(

Since it's Valentine's Day, why don't you offer him a BJ that ends with a bite...?

Joking aside I still have the rage on your behalf

Happy Valentine's Day all fab bean bakers and raisers. We are awesome

[Cherrychopsticks]

Oh Elpis, I shouldn't comment too much on other people's relationships, but I would've thrown the bloody hot tomato in his face!
No, YADNBU - it is not fair. And that card was worse than not getting one at all, really.
Afraid I don't have anything constructive to suggest though. Leave the bastard?! Only kind of joking!
Perhaps, if everything is split down the middle, it should include child care. So if he doesn't physically do it himself, he should pay for someone else to do his share.
Fair enough he didn't want the children, but not sure why you're cooking his meals when he is effectively giving you nothing in return.
Sorry, that doesn't really help you. Wish I could...

[Cherrychopsticks]

Oh, and as for the chairs - just buy the ones you want that are within your budget. What can he do if he doesn't like them?!

[bella2012]

Ellis I am raging on your behalf. Don't want to make you wish you hadn't shared because I know sometimes it is ok for you to grumble about your man and painful for other people to criticize, but seriously, that is not fair at all. Sending you so so much love. Ah man I am so cross- how can he not take in to account your change I income and the fact that youare LOOKING AFTER HIS CHILDREN??

Yomping how are you now hun? Hope you are having a better night?

Thanks angelico- meal deal was lush! Plus got 8th plate in my Emma Bridgewater collection for my dresser from very thoughtful dh and a love letter. And I got my hair done today for the first time since ds2 and during it ds1 burst in with a bunch of daffodils from him and one from ds2. Do sweet. All sounds so idyllic apart from the fact that at about 9.30 poor little ds1 was sick all over the stairs and keeps being sick every 20 mins. Dh is now sleepingin his room and I am in ours with the baby, running through for every sick bout. Romantic et? Poor little sweetheart. Ah the joys of parenting!

[Cherrychopsticks]

DS just fell rolled over, back to front!
Was inspired by Facebook to do proper naked time, pee fountain be damned, and practically the second I put him down (and turned my back to get the camera) he was over. He looked so surprised!
He then proceeded to do it many times, until I remembered to take a video for daddy...
[excessively proud mummy emoticon]

[hufflepuffle]

Who mentioned 85yr old wet nurses???? That image has invaded my feckin dreams. Ming Ming Ming.

[londonlivvy]

argh. can't sleep. waiting for DD to wake with boobs like canon balls and a fiery sore throat. too much fretting about wedding planning too. sigh.

elpis that is rubbish. properly rubbish. He might not have wanted more kids but he agreed and thus this is now his responsibility too.

cherry. loving the rolling.

bella. hope sick bug goes away.

[Londonmrss]

elpis yanbu. hiban. That's an acronym I think we need to introduce which means He Is Being A Nobber.

why do costs have to be split in half? surely all money is shared money?

[squidkid]

hufflepuffle There was an 85 year old wet nurse mentioned in the book me and smile4me were reading, The Politics of Breastfeeding. If I remember rightly she celebrated her 85th birthday by demonstrating expressing milk across the room to her great grand kids, or something! Her main lament was that past 75, she could only produce enough milk for one child at a time

Elpis - I am sorry. You are not being unreasonable. Relationships really need to adjust when partners earn different amounts (for very good reasons, I might add!)
I have almost commented before on this "well I didn't want to have kids" approach your DH has. I feel really unhappy about it, so god knows how you must feel. Is he going to say this to them as they get older
If you don't want kids, the options are 1) don't have them or 2) man the fuck up - not use it as a blackmailing chip every time a disagreement comes up.

I am probably out of line. Big hugs.

We had a good night here, Jess went down easier than usual, amazing food (fried lamb with hummus, I am working my way through a cookbook I was given for Christmas). Jess slept till 4.30am, fine, her usual. Comedy scenes as I asked boyfriend to put the light on as Jess was struggling to relatch at 5am. He did so. About 7am, he suddenly leapt out of bed and put the light on. I was half asleep cuddling Jess, I was like, hmmwhatyoudoing? He was like, you told me to put the light on! Yes... 2 hours ago. Well it made me giggle.

It's a sunny day and I have to wait in ALL DAY for Jess's fucking passport to be delivered. It better come at 9. GRR!

Weekend soon. If the weather holds I'm going to go hiking - not done a proper hike since NOVEMBER! (When Jess was considerably lighter! But I was less fit.)

[squidkid]

Claps for baby Cherry!!
I think they do more stunts when naked