November 2012 - We want rattles and we want them now

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1671393-November-2012-Vent-chat-or-brag

Late entrant for VQ?s group hug! Hope it was ok at drs. Hope your day out was good Evil and cool pr. Mm hope all calm now, but you shouldn?t be the one leaving. Legally (esp if married) you and M. have rights.

Stupid thing to moan about on a post natal thread so apologies in advance, but l am sooo tired. Done a week back at work and juggling it with H (who is not himself this week ~ a virus maybe) and lack of sleep (still up between every 2 to 4 hours with2 hours cluster feeding each evening) is, erm, challenging!

Daisy, you're back at work already? Wow, hats off to you. I am barely organised enough to shower regularly yet

Well done PR!

Catbag that is ace... Sometimes just taking one out is hard!

Dixie I am with catbag on the back to work bit.... I see it as an achievement to get dressed every day!

Daisy sorry not Dixie!

Not back by choice, but financial necessity! (DH works PT as care worker so we can juggle child care, not something that pays well, even tho it should). Have had 4 months off cos mine began when H came in Sept so l guess its not too bad.

VQ can I ask you about a more cheerful subject? Bought a couple of Alva nappies off well known online auction site - am I right that you have some of these? What do you stuff them with? They came with a mf insert and I have some bamboo inserts. Both? Just bamboo? Or a.n.other? Tia ya ledge xx

well done catbag I have only been farther than my village alone once with my dd and that was to visit my previous place of work. I don't drive so has to be trains that gap you have to mind is pretty big!

petite and pr ... she is breathing ok ... managing to breath quietly now most of the time eating well today and seems ok. just 4am a bit concerned and first thing she was quite grumbly and not quite herself but think that was cos she hadn't got as much sleep. gonna keep an eye.
popping to my wonderful local with dh later old pub barrel real ale real fire - female land lady so vases of flowers on every table :) is it bad though that I'm not going to change and tart myself up as its only the dh ... when I have met friends or if they have come over its contact lenses make up etc!!

MM I know money is an issue for most all couples & having a baby changes the dynamics of a relationship, so what I say might not be relevant; DH & I rarely argue about money because of how we set things up when we moved in together. We have a joint a/c & both put 85% of our earnings into it. The 15% goes into our own a/c. We buy anything 'necessary' out of the joint a/c like clothes for work/replacing worn out clothes/shoes etc and even essentials for hobbies (like safety gear for hockey) but luxuries (going out clothes, books, dvds etc) are personal purchases. We discussed this in the past so we didn't argue when living together about who should pay the gas or buy the toothpaste. It prob wouldn't work for everyone but because its a % rather than specific amount in the joint a/c we're contributing an equal amt into the household. Anything like a new hockey smock just for fun, special mascara or diving weights that aren't essential for example should be bought from our personal money. Just a thought, so then you budget the household from the joint a/c.

catbag excellent stuff

A friend of a friend is apparently paying £48 a day at a local nursery 7-7. Not sure if its any good but the price makes me a bit about what we'll do about childcare in Oct.

daisy sympathy. Don't envy you.

fatima thanks. Will try that.

blonder mf on own or boosted with bamboo. See how you go. Depends on how much wee there is. Sometimes putting a booster in helps with fit - I did with J when he was skinny, but now he is a blob I just use mf and add a booster if going out or night time.

Well, I went to the doctor and his chest is fine. Indeed he is a picture of health. Obviously not reflux as he is not vomiting, and is good and fat. He is a hungry baby and perhaps giving him bottles at night would help. In the past we would be weaning him now. May be colic, try infacol. If that does not work we could try Gaviscon. I explained my personal view, and Dr admitted that doctors know very little about reflux, and best speak to HV as it is a feeding issue. Hmm.

Thankfully I had bumped into the HV on the way in, and after me bursting into tears just seeing her, she is coming to see me on Monday. J was grinning from ear to ear the whole time I was there, but screaming the second we left.

Aw vq sometimes think hv is good to see to if only to chat through the options.

VQ J was grinning from ear to ear the whole time I was there, but screaming the second we left Sods. It's a baby conspiracy to make mummies feel stupid.

For all my moaning about LO not sleeping, when I met madam & evil the otherr day she slept for 3 hours solid. Like I said, sods.

chunky how you coping money wise now without personal money? we worked the same way but it was an amount that we had agreed on. we are both awful at managing money though. now I have v little money I think dh wants me to manage our joint account for things for dd food shops etc cos I'm home to do It... I'm kinda just spending it though
any body offer up tips on the system they use?

VQ it's great news that his chest is clear and that he's obviously got through the rounds of bugs unscathed. I can't help on reflux - I've been lucky as far as that is concerned - but I hope that you can work with the hv to find a solution. Colic starting at this age would be surprising.

Do you agree that he could just be hungry? Would that fit in wIth his behaviour and sleeping patterns?

Vq had ds not vommed twice on the dr (while smiling) i think he'd have been questioning me. I'm pleased you saw the hv and your response to seeing her confirms my worries. Hugs x

Thank you for worrying about me horsey I will have a good chat with her on monday.

I do not buy the hungry baby line. He is 15 weeks so my supply should be sorted. She seemed to think he would sleep if given a bottle.

I am not sure I give a flying pigs fuck about breast feeding now. When she said to give a bottle I did not fly at her like I would have expected. I do not want the faff of bottles particularly, and do not think it will be the magic cure she thinks. I will see how things go over the weekend. I am really glad his chest is clear.

I must admit walking out I thought YW will be disappointed in my lack of ass kicking.

Having a curl up in corner and have a good cry evening... Bugger Friday

Wassup pikz?

By the way, that group hug was awesome x

Just Having a I'm really rubbish at this moment.

LO is awesome but I feel like I'm always saying in a minute to him already because otherwise I can't pee/eat/express...I feel like I should be spending more time playing with him.

I'm struggling with doing 90% of it on my own, my DP is ace and lovely but runs his own business so works every hour under the sun which means the only way I get 5 minutes off is to ring my mum and get her round.

The feeding situation is proper getting to me again. Where he is sleeping better I'm still having to get up and express. I'm so sick of having sore boobs because I can't express exactly when I need to. I'm struggling to keep up with his demands. I know the answer is to give up but that reduces me to tears because I feel like I've failed and I'm a week away from 12 weeks for a start. I also dread telling my mum I want to give up as she keeps saying how amazing it is for him. I just feel like the 2.5 hours I spend expressing could be much better spent.

And I've another bloody cold..

VQ, lovey, you're a fab mummy whatever you decide. Only you know which is harder for you, bf or bottles, but you know you won't be judged here

I have some Alvas and use a mf+bamboo. They're not a good fit on R, though, and i often get leg leaks where the stuffing makes them gape. He's a lanky skinny thing though, so might work better on a proper chubster?

Pikz I have had the same day as you several times now, I thought it was tiredness but even now J is sleeping through I'm finding myself feeling so down and sobbing, J is awesome and needless to say I love him and both my other boys but yet I spend whole days wishing I was miles away. DP is just a room away working so I feel guilty asking him to help me out (which he does anyway) but when J is handed to me for the millionth time that day because he needs feeding I just feel like crying. :( 13 weeks is to old to just start getting PND isn't it?

Hugs for everyone who needs it since I missed out on the group ones earlier.

On a more cheerful note I'm just about to bath J in a giant rubber duckie! I'll post pictures on FB.

pikz you are fucking awesome for what you have achieved. If he never has another drop from you then you are still fucking awesome, but I understand how you feel. How about cutting out an expressing session and topping up with formula. Your supply may tail off, but so be it. Or shorten the sessions? Do you express at night when he is asleep?

VQ I'm sure I have read that frequent feeding can be a sign of reflux.
When baby feeds the acid is down. When they stop it starts to come up. So it's a comfort. I have no idea were I read it but I have.

Daisy. Wow bk at work. I can't imagin it. Not even nxt month!

LO is farting on my lap.

Have had a major lazy day. Stayed in bed till 11. Then bk 1-4.30. How ill cope on days DH is at work I have no idea.