November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

[StuntNun]

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[blonderthanred]

Oh btw I went to a baby swimming class with a friend and ALL the dads turned up too. Don't know if it was a wobbly ladies in swimsuits thing - but actually think it was more them wanting to be cool dads!

[YellowWellies]

Bizarre but Jonas is another car seat hater unless it's moving OR.... unless you swing the car seat like a swing with him strapped in it. It knackers your arm but even on our worst reflux days five mins of that and he was asleep. On a good day he's asleep in under a min of swinging!

[Passmethecrisps]

P quite likes her car seat. Over Christmas she had a nap in it - I was really unwell and fell asleep. I woke up an hour later to discover her sitting playing with her own hands quite happily. Goodness knows how long she had sat there.

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

For baby signing, I used <a class="break-all" href="//amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1904550045/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1357080704&sr=8-1&pi=SL75&tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">this with my DD. She did use to use it & actually still uses certain signs she learnt from Something Special, such as "friends" when she's talking about hers...

blonder did you try to do it earlier than normal too? Perhaps it put his natural sleep cycle a bit out of sync. We're introducing bed time routine stuff bit by bit and then will bring it forward to a more appropriate time. It worked with DD - started doing Daddy bed time (change nappy, get pjs on etc) then mummy feeds, all accompanied by lullabies on cd, then put in cot. Later we added a story with the milk. We only bath every other night, but that's obviously down to personal preference...

[kirrinIsland]

YW my car seat is heavy enough without N in it - I can't imagine trying to swing it. Although, if it sent her to sleep in 5 minutes I'd try anything!

Speaking of which a N has literally been asleep all day. She has woken for feeds ANC then gone straight back off again. Should I be worried because i am Shes feeding well and has wet nappies and seems ok. I am worried we're going to be up all night!

[CandyPop]

Ewan working his magic 3rd night in a row!

I know we spoke about this before but it's ok to leave baby in a wet nappy at night right? She hasn't pooed but I know she peed during last feed.

Also notice yesterday and today her poo has turned from the typical yellowy mustard seedy type to slightly more watery browny yellow and not so much seedy. Should I be worried?

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

candy re; nappy. Yes, you can leave them overnight in a wet nappy, particularly a disposable, as they are designed to keep the skin dry. It's one way to "distinguish" night & day for baby. Pops obviously always get changed, buy eventually baby stops going at night/in their sleep.

As for the poo, not sure. It depends how watery iyswim. But its prob only ok if its not very green.

[TheDetective]

I am still awake. I'm getting the rage with myself now. What is wrong with me??! Oscar fed at 11 and settled to sleep. Woke at 345. So I could of had 4 hours sleep. Instead I have had none and he will be awake again in 2 hours.

Fucksake. Daren't take any nytol, because I'm the only one who wakes to the baby crying.

[GTbaby]

Come on Ewan work!

[CandyPop]

Anothe one here willing on Ewan !

[CandyPop]

Wonder across the world how many Ewan's are being played at this moment!

[StuntNun]

Are you stressed Detective? Is something preying on your mind? I find the only thing to do is get up and read a book if I've been lying awake for more than an hour. Don't watch TV or use a computer or phone because the light from the screen suppresses melanin production. I hope you got some sleep.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Is it me or are these threads getting quieter at night? Or are we just too exhausted to write much? LO is doing 6 hours at night now, though that can start at anything from 10 to 2. Then she's up for a quick feed and back down again for a couple of hours.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

They are pr . Olly now doesn't wake till around five and I am really trying to feed and put down quickly. Though the last few days after a couple of ounces At 05:00 he won't have his breakfast.i am going for the cooed boiled water tonight I think.

[Thechick]

I'm still here at night, but I'm usually catching up. H has been up about every hour and a half since bedtime at 7, but I've literally only done the feeds and gone back to sleep, dh has brought him to me then burped him and put him back. He's currently on my chest as he was having such trouble breathing in the cot. Think we will need to prop it up so his head is a bit higher.
Can't believe it's 2013, the past year has gone so quickly it's unbelievable. Thanks all for mentioning the sure start. I've started investigating. Quite excited to see what's out there.
Detective I think you asked about dp's and play groups. I went with dh to one and everyone was really friendly. People came up to us and said hello which was really lovely, but that's the only one I've been to.

I looked into baby sign with ds1 and I think it's a great idea but I've heard that it can delay them talking. I decided not to go with it. And routines, we've been trying to impose a routine on the LO because he's such a bad sleeper but we haven't been doing it for long but I think it's too early in the day, we start at around 7. He still sleeps a lot during the day and hasn't got a pattern yet of when he'll be awake, so it's hard to know when to have bedtime.

He has his 12 wk jabs tomo. Hope he doesn't react again.

[Thechick]

He didn't react with his 8 wk only sleepy and I'm hoping that happens again.

[katkit1]

we're still awake in the night 01:30/03:30/06:00 but feeds quickly then straight back into cot after a quick hug - not mucking about with lights on or computer screen light (anything to keep the sleep coming)

[CandyPop]

I'm still here! Not so much that she's sleeping longer stretches but she settles a lot quicker.... Feeds then sleep. Last night fed more regular intervals as dh has a temperature so slept in other room so I did the whole night. I kept on thinkin she pooed so would check and t which then rouses her... Normally dh can coax her back to sleep but as its mummy milk machine holdin her she decides she'll have a feed! She was fed 1.40 , 4 then 5.30 ... Was about to have to feed at 7.15 but then dh came in held her and she instantly nodded off!! That's so not fair!! Lol

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

chick I haven't found that sign delayed my DD talking at all. I think that, at 2.8, she has quite an extensive vocabulary and a lot of adults understand her well (which is a developmental stage, usually 3yo are expected to be understood by strangers) - people have commented on how well she talks for months. Unfortunately, in her enthusiastic and keen toddler way, she will start up conversations with people that are completely out of context, which means it can be harder for them to understand. I think sign would delay language if you didn't do anything else - if you didn't say the word at the same time, for example, such as biscuit or milk or whatever, and didn't talk or sing to them and so on. It was helpful in those early months of language acquisition to help avoid tantrums as DD knew what she wanted but couldn't always say...

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

I'm here a bit at night - it depends. Last night was horrendous though, but not because DS wouldn't sleep, he couldn't. He slept from his feed at around 9, half 11 realised he wasn't stirring, so changed bum, dream feed then in basket. Awake at 3.10, fed, but fussed about on & off (fast flow I think & v full boob) then had a v v wet nappy so changed, inc sleepsuit because covered in milk, he's dozing off & promptly pukes everywhere. Cue change of clothes. More fussing, so more milk but doesn't want it, try dummy, makes him gag, then he poos. Change nappy, he fusses a bit about being winded, yawn. Put him in basket & he self-settles to sleep (although DH's coughing fit woke up slightly, so it took 2x as long!). If the whole process hadn't taken 2hrs, it would've been a successful night!!

He did sleep until 7.45 though & has gone back to sleep, so, so am I!! :)

[nillynoon]

Can I join? Toby is 7 weeks old, breastfed, and had me up most of last night, knackered!

[StuntNun]

Is Ewan just for night time or does he work for day time naps? I'm holding J most of the day because he wakes as soon as he goes into his cot.

[CandyPop]

I mainly use it at night. I've tried using Ewan during day (with a different sound so she doesn't confuse day and night) but it doesn't seem to work. I think it's because during the day she is sleeping more lightly whereas nights she's kinda sleepy and Ewan just helps to send her over the edge !

[StuntNun]

Welcome Nilly, my James is seven weeks tomorrow. He would have been Toby if I had my way but it was DH's turn to choose the name this time since I chose the last two although DH did get to name the dog and the cat.