November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1640937-November-2012-sleepless-nights-aplenty

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[TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor]

Happy new year everyone!

Well, that is the first new year's eve I haven't been awake for the chimes. Had stomach cramps and went to sleep at 10pm . I felt too poorly to wake B for a feed at 11pm so she woke at 2.30am then 6am. I'll have to try the dream feed tonight.

Diet is meant to start today but we've got party food in the fridge that I couldn't eat last night. It would be a terrible waste to throw it out.

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

Don't you just hate it when you're all geared up to resent baby - had v v little sleep, been full on puked on again - and they go and give you a great big gummy grin & coo & gurgle at you and you forgive them instantly

A has only been in 0-3mths clothes a few days & some look like they're getting snug already!! He put on 830g in 18 days, which is just over 10oz a week roughly. If I knew how, I'd share so those struggling with weight gain issues could replicate it. I think he's just destined to be stocky whereas DD was destined to be skinny.

[MissMummy1]

Sevond evening in a row of manic cluster feeds followed by 6/7 hours sleep! Waiting for the bubble to burst, she is clearly trying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Hope ill people and littlies are better soon. Have a great day everyone, we're off to my mums for lunch with sil and her dh when dp and I eventually get out of bed

[PetiteRaleuse]

LO screamed til after 2, but then slept well.. She's not eating as much as usual and is coughing a lot. No need to worry yet though.

DD1 still needs too much oxygen. All we are waiting for now is fir her to do 24 hours no oxygen with decent sats. But she still needs 2 litres, so could take days.

[havingastress]

Hello :) Can I join in? Had DD 9 weeks ago. She's just had her first jabs and bless her, very irritable and has gone off her food. Anyone else had side effects from the jabs?

Oh. and can I share? I bought Harvey Karp - Happiest Baby on the Block. OMG. Most amazing book/dvd ever. We now never have crying episodes that go on and on because we can stop them!

Seriously. The 5 s's work brilliantly.

[StuntNun]

Nervous it's difficult to know what to do other than suggest trying different bottles like these but it would get expensive to keep buying them if they don't work. My DS2 never took a bottle either so he was fed using a sippy cup. Have you tried starting to breastfeed then unlatching and trying the bottle so your baby is in the same position as for breastfeeding, comfortable with you and already expecting milk? When J started taking the (Avent) bottle he was trying to latch on to it, it was comical seeing his jaw working and putting so much effort into 'milking' the bottle. It took a couple of weeks before he worked out that he just had to suck and the milk came out. So your LO might just need some practice.

I'm cross with DH, you would think this was his first baby he's so clueless. J woke up crying at 7.30 so DH took him downstairs and nursed him with a dummy for 90 minutes! I was asleep and didn't realise J wanted a feed until I woke after 9 hearing him crying. So I went downstairs to get him and DH said he would change his nappy before his feed. Then I heard the bath running so I went upstairs to find J alone on the change table while DH was in the bathroom running the bath! DH is convinced that he won't roll off the change table so it's fine to leave him there! Then he didn't like the amount of water in the bath so he put loads more in - I though J was going to float out of the bath seat. And DH was sitting on the toilet kid while J was in the bath, thinking the bath seat would hold him securely. It's just a curved piece of plastic, one good kick and he could flip himself out of it and be drowning before DH could get to him, I don't know why he thinks he doesn't need to hold on to him. He keeps leaving him on bean bags, on the sofa, in his swing/pram without the straps done up. The man just has no clue about safety at all. Sorry for the rant, it's annoying me that he won't be told, he knows it all and since six-week-old babies can't roll over all this is perfectly safe.

I saw this baby bath seat linkey and thought it looked very comfy. I wonder if you can get them in the UK?

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Bugger bugger bugger, Olly has a cold and the themometer has broken and the saline drops have disappeared and he is two days away from a cheeky pop of Calpol.

Off to find the duty pharmacy open .........

[StuntNun]

• toilet lid

[StuntNun]

Welcome Having. What are the five Ss?

[ValiumQueen]

That looks lovely stunt but I shudder at how you could fill it safely. The tap above the baby just seems so dangerous. Very cute and clever though.

Welcome havingastress and congrats. I have not heard of that author. I will check it out. My DS is also 9 weeks.

sophia I am not sure two days is worth stressing about. DS had calpol at 5 weeks in hospital, so I would think it would be fine to give. Your LO is how old now? He had 2.5mls.

[Peaky1]

I saw a bath product at the baby show that I'm considering again now but not sure how expensive they are. It's called the babydam I think. It's a barrier for the bath so you only have to fill a portion of the bath rather than the whole thing. They were selling like hot cakes at the time!

[NervousReindeer]

stunt she's had a couple of bottles before a took to them like a duck to water so I panicked that she would reject BF and started spacing the bottles out no more then a week and now she rejects that, a couple of times she's had 1oz from a bottle but when I put more in for DP to give she completely rejects it again. I've tried taking her off the breast then giving it to her but she won't take it, we've tried feeding her in different positions like her car seat but she won't have it, she did take an oz when we were out in town so we'll try today again when we go to mums. I have 1 advent bottle so we'll try that in a few days. When she rejects the bottle I always try and distract her for 5-10min afterwards so she doesn't learn that if I refuse this I get boob straight away

Welcome having

I really should get ready but can't be bothered

[StuntNun]

Can you wait until she's really hungry Nervous, e.g. when you've been out so she has been asleep in the car seat for ages?

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

vq DS will be 8 weeks on Thurs and he is 11lb plus. Think that would be ok?

[Passmethecrisps]

Happy noo year!

Hope everyone had a nice evening.

We have a basic baby bath from Ikea. We have to use a tub to fill it as it won't go under the taps. The petal bath thing could be filled the same way. Before p was born I fancied one if those bucket bath things. P loves a wee kick in the bath though so I am glad we didn't bother.

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Happy new year! Had an appalling evening with DH at work and neither DC sleeping, but DS then had another great night and both children napping now, at the same time so am munis netting catching up on my own rest.

And yes, GT you are stunning as you are.

PR - not sure if I have missed an update but how are your DC?

[Clarella]

checking in and happy new year!

[Clarella]

could I just ask - at what point should I allow ds to sleep longer than 3 hours and 4 hours at night? he was 5lb 2 at birth as had lost weight in womb ad I went to 42 wks and had small placenta (dunno why not picked up) but is now just over 7 lb at 3 weeks - he's started showing signs of sleeping for longer but I worry about weight due to low birth weight - or shall I just allow longer sleeps at night?

[StuntNun]

Clarella you only need to wake for feeds if your baby isn't gaining weight adequately. Otherwise just feed on demand. I find J is extremely variable, some afternoons he'll sleep for four hours but other times he'll cluster feed. If they do have a long sleep then they can make up for it by feeding more frequently for the next few hours.

[Clarella]

ah thanks stunt!

[ValiumQueen]

sophia I would think 2.5mls would be fine. He is a good size and the dose is all about size. I am not a doctor though. Has he got a temp? If so it is important to know why?

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

His temp is 36.5 he is just snuffly and grouchy, he has a sore bottom and a blocked up nose. I would cry too if it were me and I couldn't take anything. I will give him a bit at tea time if he is no better. Thanks vq xx

[misslaughalot]

Happy new year November ladies and babies!

Well, it's our last day in Cornwall for the festive period and as the sun is shining we headed out with the intention of spending the afternoon at Port Isaac, only for my car to break down on the way. The exhaust has pretty much split in two, so thankfully it didn't happen on the motorway on our way home tomorrow, wouldn't fancy waiting for a recovery vehicle on the hard shoulder with a 5 week old. Hopefully it can be repaired in the morning!

Babylaughalot has been cluster feeding for the last few days, at a different time each day. Is this the joys of a growth spurt?!

I want to start expressing soon so that DP can help out with one feed a day. Can you lovely lot answer a few questions for me?

When is the best time of day to express?
How much should I be aiming to express for each feed? I have NO idea how much babylaughalot currently takes at each feed and want the bottle feed to fill her up!
Will my supply be affected by missing the feed that's replaced by the bottle?
Any other general expressing tips?

Thanks in advance!

[TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor]

I bought a great baby bath in Asda last week. It was less than £5 and is a seat bath. B loves it and it takes a very small amount of water,to fill. This is a picture of it.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=asda+baby+bath&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7AHjUPyKLMKM0AWuioGwBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=672#biv=i|0;d|pfjoWA5IS14JtM:

[YellowWellies]

Sophia call NHS Direct / 24 they can give an age and weight adjusted dose recommendation for calpol for babies younger than 2 months. We had to call them when we needed to dose J (before we knew it was reflux!) when he was only 6 weeks and 8 or 9 lb so am sure there is a safe dose for yours.