November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

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Detective welcome to my world lol!! You can quite literally set your clock by him!! Though he's 3.5 hourly now.

Of course after posting he's now wide awake, laughing and quite happy!! He doesn't need anything mummy would just like him to eat a bit more!! He will when he's hungry!!

Det - I also can't go back to sleep, but I think that's because I'm usually a person who once awake, is awake until bed time. I don't nap or anything just as soon as im up, I'm up!!

The only thing that varies is the length of time at night - but then it ends up being that his feeds/sleep/wake times are different every day, because he goes back to 3 hours once he has done his 4-5 hour stint!

5s's have changed our life seriously!

Basically works on theory that babies have a fourth trimester and until they are 12 wks old they are essentially not ready to be in the wide world..so when they are crying (so long as not hungry/nappy needs changing) you swaddle them, hold them on their side and shush very very loudly im their ear. Makes them feel as though they are back in the womb.

Trust me. Amazing!!! You tube it!

That's true, I'm not a good napper. And if I did manage a nap, it is for 4 hours no one could drag me up before the 4 hours were up! But I had got better at napping towards the end of pregnancy though, managing to fall asleep quicker, and nap for 1-2 hours! And I did manage falling asleep fine until probably the last 10 days I'd say. Not sure what has changed? Maybe I'm just not as tired? Even though I am sure I am!!!

I can't admit to this because I sound like a smug bastard and you just know admitting it will make it all stop, but Oscar only cries for feeding/tired/explosive poo nappy/play with me.

Lucky bastard. He still takes all my time up though!!!

I gave Olly half a 2.5ml end of the Calpol spoon when he was still gurny and cryey and he seems much chilled or maybe he is now spaced

DH has gone to bed, back to work tomorrow, I am waiting for the 10:00 feed, so dressing gown on, candle on, twinkly lights on, chocs, cup of tea and Bridget Jones. contentment.

Get my girlies back form their father tomorrow looking forward that too.

I'm looking forward to this month for the first time ever, bloody hate January usually! as I have got lots of plans for me and Oscar! Is anyone else planning on going to any groups now the new year is here and our babies are becoming more sociable?!

I'm going to baby massage - booked it when I was 38 weeks! Starts end of Jan when he is 8 weeks. There are a few Sure Start groups I am going to - some are free, a couple are for a small cost. There is a water babies one, in a hydro pool by my house. A 'Twinkles Baby Multi Sensory' group, described as 'a relaxing session for babies with toys, music, projectors, bubbles and lights. Another group called Joxytales Baby Bubbles & Rhyme' described as songs, rhymes, parachute and bubbles!

There is a toy library once a week too, plus buggy fit, and then some 4-6 week courses, baby babble, weaning, and baby moves.

Going to space them out, so we have a day of relaxing, and a day with a session to attend. I would have loved this when I had DS1!

What do you think to taking DP sometimes? I want to make friends at the groups, so obviously having DP with me may put others off chatting to me. But I'd like him to experience this kind of stuff with Oscar, to help them bond, and for him to enjoy playing with him! He would be able to go quite often, as he isn't getting any overtime at work, so he is only doing 1.5 days in the week, plus Saturday. He will be going on his own (if he wants) when DS is 5 months anyway, as I'm back to work, and he is off for 3 months. Not sure what to do, would it be weird attending together?! I thought maybe if he came to one of the groups, plus the swimming, and then I did the others alone??

Fingers crossed N is asleep. Please be asleep.

detectiveyou will be super busy! Sure start centres can be great if you get a good one. I am going to start zumba at our local one, obviously I know that is just for me but I can take Olly. They also do sibling soft play on a Fri so I am going to take them both to that. I like the sound of twinkles I will have to see if they have something similar here.

I too always try to make sure I have one day at home a week just me and baby. I have done that with all of them, no going out just a chill out day.

I am so jealous of the decent things your sure start centres offer. We have loads of centres here but they're mainly clinic/singing/stay & play type sessions. Nothing like zumba. Think they do occassionally offer massage/sensory but will have DD in tow so not an option. Didn't find out about things like that for her until she was too old but did go to a couple of baby groups.

I too have a happy/chilled baby at the mo detective but he hates the car seat unless its moving - whether being carried or in the car. If its still he cries.

I can totally recommend this rocker for fussy babies. A got it for Christmas. It's excellent.

What is a Sure Start centre? I take it they don't exist in Northern Ireland along with NHS Direct which sounds like it would be very useful to have here?

Thanks for the idea stunt we tried that tonight but with no luck and we tried feeding her before she's starving but she didn't want that either, we asked the Hv and she basically said don't give her the boob option let her scream and when she's hungry enough shell take it because she hasn't got another choice but I couldn't do that

chunky my LO is the same, hates the car seat unless its moving

evil DD tried to eat her hands all the time but she constantly has mittens on because she takes chunks out of her face

petite FC for your DD coming home Friday. It's good she's had a walk today

Started bath and bed at 9 and before I had a chance to dry DD she shat everywhere covering her, my legs, towel and blanket then once cleaned again and dressed she decided to puke down herself. Lovely

We go to 2 different groups but because DPs been off work I haven't made as many but were booked onto the baby massage class and were going to go swimming too, I haven't looked at sustain centres but will google now. I like the idea of pram fit too

Ms now in bed but is v raspy, keeps coughing and struggling with bunged up nose. Might try prop up her Moses basket up at one end.
She seems to sleep ok on our chests the last couple of days but hoping I don't have to resort to that.

PR - sorry about your DD. hope she comes off it again soon

Is anyone planning on teaching baby to sign?? I always thought it would be great with my other two as I got so frustrated when they knew what they wanted but had no way of telling me - through work I did my level 1 BSL last year so will hopefully try to teach Dottie some basics.

Hugs n prayers for poorly babies.

Nervous was thinking about this today. LO ALWAYs has mittens on. Every time I "try" with out mittens he scratches himself. Should I b giving him "mitten free" time? Is that a thing? Today I was cleaning his hands n noticed he keeps them clenched... I have no idea if this is normal!

On a different note used Ewan for the first time harp for bed time feed at 9 N then left it on heart beat. Seemed a little less wriggly n kinda calm. Saying that he is generally a good sleeper. Touch wood , cries when hungry or has dirty nappy and occasionally when overly tiered or wants cuddles.
Will have to see how Ewan does long term at getting LO to sleep in his crib at 7pm rather then 9.

Thinking of you and your family PR.

We thought we'd start a proper bedtime routine with the new year: so far he has screamed throughout the relaxing bath, cuddles and massage and has been feeding fussily since 9pm, while DH waits eagerly to read a bedtime story. I don't know about DS but I'm bloody exhausted.

Do we stick with it in the hope it will get easier or go for a more gradual approach? We were doing quite well with night times/sleep but I felt like we should start being more structured. Maybe I should forget it. What have others found?

Glenda I would b interested in baby sign. Have no idea where to start though. Have always wanted to learn sign myself, one of those things i never got around to.

Blonder ds screamed through his first baths. He doesn't now he loves them and gets quite excited about it!! I don't think ditching after one bad experience is the way forward. We carried on and it works ok for us. Day time is a joke but bed time and morning fine!!

Were trying baby sensory and swimming after Xmas. Swimming I'm ESP looking forward to!!! Dh is not water confident and I really want it to be second nature to ds as it is to me (same with being around horses, just be confident even if he doesn't ride!). I've heard good things about the lessons so fingers crossed!! I'm doing a yoga class and taking him with me. I think it will be to sedate for me and make me laugh like preg yoga did, but I'm going with friends!! Then there's a couple of other groups so I'll be busy!!

blonder that description sounds much like our bedtime. We plough on with bath, 'relaxing' massage then low key feed and bed. All works fine actually apart from the fact that she cries herself hoarse when getting dried and massage. We don't yet do a story - we might move to that when she is 3 months.

P is another one who actually really likes her bath. She does know what is about to happen and seems to get excited but cor blimey does she hate getting out!

We don't have any surestart or any kind of baby or toddler groups apart from Sunday swimming from 4 months. So v jealous of all your activity choices.

Oh, and DH is desperate to take P swimming. He loves it. I hate it

Yeah his other baths have been at random times of day and he wasn't keen on the stripping off but didn't mind the water. I just thought maybe we were trying to introduce too much all at once esp as evenings are usually one long feed/doze.

He is in his cot now v unsettled when for the last few weeks he's been happy to go to sleep when put down. I think the whole experience was too exciting! He always had his longest naps after the massage class so I thought that would send him right off. Maybe I'll persevere with that and add the bath in later.

Hope you are all in for restful nights and poorly LOs get some good health-giving sleep.