November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

[StuntNun]

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[gardenpixies32]

I know this is not what sleep deprived mummies want to hear but I have to share it before I burst!

BOTH girls slept through the night! 11:15pm-6:45am! I nearly burst with happiness. I just hope it continues or will be eBaying them

I love Gina Ford!

[horseylady]

Yay garden!!!

Ds as predicted woke screaming at 4!!! Shame. 10 days of sleeping through was quite nice!! He's ill though so can forgive him!!

[nillynoon]

My friend (I'm in Scotland, she's in Kent) is due in a few weeks and her wee man will be Toby too, it seems to be having a wee surge in popularity!

Well done gardenpixies on the great sleeps!

[gardenpixies32]

horsey - DT1 was very unsettled at night after her vaccinations. It took about 2 weeks for her to settle in the evenings again.

The girls have their second immunisations today. Dreading it.

[gardenpixies32]

Thanks nilly and welcome :)

[DesperateHousewife21]

nilly Im in Kent too although prob nowhere near your friend!

Ever since Q turned 6 weeks her sleep is awful, she doesn't sleep unless held so I cant get anything done, ds is missing out on mummy time and dh has gone back to work today and Im finding it hard :(

[horseylady]

Garden - thanks. He was unsettled so I knew it was going to happen and was prepared!! Poor soul. He was fine though. Woke up, drank 3oz straight back to sleep.

I then woke up him at 730 (he was stirring) and he had another 4oz so hopefully his feeding will get back on track!

He's so full if cold again though and really hoarse sounding.

[ValiumQueen]

nilly there are a few of us in Scotland. We plan to meet up at some point.

I am still having bad nights, but J is getting easier to settle, and is settling himself at times. I am getting 1 longer stretch of 3-5 hours, then 1-2 hours for rest of night. He is settling earlier too. He is still not right with his chest and wakes so full of gunk. I can feed him lying down again thankfully. I lay so there is no chance of me rolling over and when he is done, he rolls his head away. I often fall asleep doing this, but only a light sleep, not a proper refreshing sleep.

I have stopped MNing at night as it keeps him more awake, and I miss out on the gazing into each others eyes. It will not be long until he is sleeping through, and I am never doing this again.

[Passmethecrisps]

Welcome nilly

P has been pretty unsettled the last few days - I did wonder if she was teething but I now suspect it is her meds. Poor wee soul is awfully grumpy.

[ValiumQueen]

I had a serious discussion with DH last night. I am not enjoying feeding J as much as I did the girls, but that is because he has not been well. It is not his fault or mine. I cannot stop or mix feed as I cannot allow myself to treat him different to the girls. I am not sure formula would help anyway. He is nearly 10 weeks old so I am over the worst. However, when he starts solids, at around 24 weeks, I will allow a cup of formula if I need to go out etc. I still haven't given him a bottle of expressed, and he would probably refuse a bottle now. I will defrost it at the weekend to try.

[Thechick]

Thanks for the info chunky. Might look into it again.
garden that's such great news. Can't wait till my LO starts sleeping for good stretches regularly. It will happen one day (hopefully!)

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

VQ J's sleep patterns seem similar to A's. I'm hoping gaps will continue to get longer too!! I'm also thinking of trying a bottle at the weekend, just to see if he'll take one, as I'm not fussed about it being a regular thing.

It has been harder for you with him being ill, plus you've had a trickier pg with your leg etc & the girls to consider, I'm not surprised you've not enjoyed it as much. I have found nights harder this time. I don't think formula would make any difference to the poor nights, DH still wouldn't/couldn't help so I'd just be making more work for myself with sterilising etc. Keep up the good work though - you're doing fab!!

[PetiteRaleuse]

VQ sorry you are having a tough time with feeding. As always, do what is best for you both :)

Please can everyone cross theor fingers for DD1? The intern is asking the consultant if she can be discharged. Won't know until the end of rounds but if you can all send hypnotic thoughts in the direction of Luxembourg saying " you WILL discharge DD1, you will you will you WILL" then it might help.

LO OTOH is still coughing but no breathing feeding or fever issues so will wait another day...

[ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings]

Hi nilly my LO is 7wks too.

Well done gardenDTs :)

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Welcome nilly every bloody one is in Scotland. Thinking about a move

Well done garden long may it continue, how many weeks are your DTs now?

Have just had my post natal depression talk and Olly has been weighed. 12 lb 5pz after all his Christmas excess!!!

In other news....I am looking into transferring some of my maternity leave to DH! this is because I want to leave and i need to work a year or pay back my maternity pay, and as you know we will be moving to NI in September, so the plan is:

Go back to work end of March and DH takes my last month of maternity
Work until end of Sept
Take the two 3month unpaid childcare breaks I am entitled to

Voila 1 year worked for the company

Alternatively pray for a VR package, quite possible but not sure if it will affect me we will see.

A the moment The woman in HR doesn't know what I am talking about. Think I just to unlucky with the person I spoke to. Double checked Citizens advice, I can transfer my entitlement.

[Catbag]

gardenpixies Well done to you! I am, however, most

[blonderthanred]

VQ I'm sorry to read that you're not enjoying feeding J so much but lovely that you are enjoying the eye-gazing - I also try to avoid using my phone for this reason also it is on DH bedside table.

I don't think it would matter too much if you did anything slightly different from your girls but I think you are right that formula would not make much difference, the issue is that he has been so poorly. I can understand you wanting to dig your heels in though as obvs I have felt like this too for different reasons.

Funnily enough we are just trying L on his first bottle of ebm. He took some of it ok but then spluttered a bit and got upset so wouldn't take the rest. Am not wasting it so will try again once he is calmer and if not then syringe or try straight from storage cup. DH gave him the bottle to try and differentiate. I am hopeful that he will get used to the idea. Has J had a dummy at all?

[blonderthanred]

fingers xed PR

[pikz]

Crossing everything PR.

VQ you have done an amazing job in horrible circumstances and I would not have managed like you have. You know way more than me but I found L didn't take as well to defrosted milk as fresh so you might want to try fresh..

Ok ish night here. 1.40/3.40/6.40 and then 9.30. Just would love some longer stretches. Milk supply slowly coming back but still scraping by managing for every feed to be expressed milk. Will have to see how it goes. May end up with one bottle of formula a day just to keep up. He seems a very hungry boy taking on average 32oz of EBM a day at 5 weeks. Is this normal?

[pikz]

Garden I am pleases and very jealous!!

[PetiteRaleuse]

Consultant said no. Maybe this evening.

[ValiumQueen]

pikz coming from you, that is a real compliment you are right about the frozen milk, so I will express a wee bit for J to try fresh. Part of me thinks I would not have time or energy to express as well, but it may well be worth the effort. I expressed loads with the girls.

And blonder

Thanks also to everyone else x

I remember feeling similar at around this stage with the girls - feeling like the baby only wants me for milk. And DS wants milk all the time it seems. I think these two weeks have been challenging as I have had all three. I am looking forward to school restarting, and feel guilty for that.

I am tired and missing my chocolate treats and cheese sandwiches.

I need to get into a routine to feel in control, and school will help with this.

[glendathegoodwitch]

Awwwwww hugs pr I know you want her one asap, but better she gets fully well first to avoid relapses and further stress with a return o hospital xx she will get there - be strong xx

vq do what you've got to do and if that means pulling dh up and getting more support then so be it - you're doing an amazing job xx

Had pn checkup at drs today all is well except for the palaver trying to book in for the implant - I need to be on my period to have it, explained bf'ing so may be some time and need contraception now so receptionist booked me in for next tues and we'll just have to see if the dr will do it!!!!

Dh has gone bak to work today so gonna attempt to tidy up in lieu of HV visit tomorrow - not looking forward to seeing the useless bint but will be good to see how much dots weighs now - I reckon she'll be 10lb or so