November 2012 - losing sleep and losing weight

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Detective I don't quite know what to say other than to send hugs. It's really hard having a new baby in the house and this time of year with rubbish weather and lots of bugs going round it feels even harder.

Horsey it's normal he is eating less with a cold. Would be worth getting him checked out though for your own peace of mind.

Detective - shit. Hope you're ok.

Petite - thanks were feeding little and often and he seems calmer. Still eating less, but we seem to be getting a bit more into him. Confusing as he never seems hungry. Guess he's just full of mucous.

Bronchiolitis is only a problem when it impacts on breathing. The only treatment in that case is oxygen in hospital and tube feeding if they don't manage to feed to an extent they get dehydrated. If E is providing you with wet heavy nappies the feeding isn't an issue. Things to look out for re the breathing, other than the obvious turning blue (extreme) are short, fast and shallow breaths; when undressed watch his chest and you will see if he is making an effort to breathe or also at the base of the neck it dips in and out more than usual when they are strughlingvto breathe.

It also goes in stages of about four days. The beginning, the middle (the worst part) and the last four days are recovery. Ish.

At home all we can do is feed little and often as you are doing, and keep them as upright as possible when they cough.

Big hugs detective and gin. Be kind to yourself.

24 hours of mil to go. Thank fuck.

I can do it all. Hah. In your face asshole. I've just managed to sort out both children, and the house, fix my tearstained face and load the car with 6 bags of rubbish and get them to the tip. Now I'm home, my dad has arrived.

I haven't told him. Will have to tell him later I suppose.

Who needs a man?! Not me! I've done it before admittedly not with a 6 week old and I can do it again.

I have jus posted the below in the potty training section but wonder if any of you with DSs have any useful tips;

1st day of potty training not going to badly actually. After a couple of wees on the floor he has pre empted a wee with " oh no" and we have managed to get to the toilet on time.

I popped him on just now before he sat down for his tea and he had a wee. So I am quite pleased really.

But when he goes, using a padded Tommee Tippee seat on the toilet, I sit him right back, the way his willy points is to the front of the seat and it keeps spraying, hitting the front and all over the floor...cue more " oh no"

I have being trying to look away for a minute so he relaxes and this is when he goes, not if I stare at him, should I be watching and hold it down?

Any tips?

Of course you can detective, you are a strong woman, but if you are not feeling so strong you know where to come for a whingy? What would you do if he comes back later with his tail between his legs?

Could you come and potty train DS1 as well please!

I'd tell him to do one. I CBA going in to it all, but it's the last straw for me. I don't even think he will be back, not even to see his son. Not the way he has behaved since he was born anyway. I have felt like he didn't care, and today, well he proved it.

No idea sophia. I'm about to start training DD1, or will do when I am sure LO is better and I can devote enough time to it.

Well done Detective. Stay strong.

With the lack of support he has given you these last few weeks you might find it easier and calmeer on your own.

He hasn't bothered ringing/texting. Don't even know where he is. He took his work stuff. He isn't in work til tues. Guess that is my answer.

I have to say even with four even them sometimes I find I am more on top of stuff by myself!

detective obviously w/out knowing the details, can't advise, but has his behaviour/attitude changed since O was born or has it always been like that? If its new, then perhaps he isn't mature enough/can't cope with a baby. If its always been that way, perhaps he hasn't realised that things have to change. Not sure which is better or more likely to help things resolve in a positive way, but just a thought!! Have a large glass of wine for me, I miss copious amts of booze

detective I have every faith you will cope just fine x feel free to vent here.

sophia you can buy little urinals that hang on the toilet. Sorry cannot link, but will try to find the name for you. They look well cool. Have you ever tried a she-wee? For you, that is? They are great!

Well, news in Valium Palace today, is that little prince has taken a bottle of EBM! Like he had been doing it since birth! No tears, no stress, and finished off feed on mummy. He had 3oz fresh at room temp. Mummy was in tears in the kitchen as could hear the crying. DH had changed his nappy before his feed. DS usually goes straight on boob so was not impressed. To say I am relieved is an understatement!

Well done VQ!! Woop!

Detective whatever you decide we will be here. 6 week olds are hard work and sounds like he wasn't prepared for it. DP and I definitely have our moments.

Yay VQ Its emotional isnt it ? When dd took her first bottle I cried too

Aw Detective this will be the kick up the bum he needed thats all ...he ll be back with his tail between his legs.

sophia tippitoes is one brand. On eBay and elsewhere. Never used them but may get one for boy.

I am very grateful, and proud

Maybe the break will give you both time to think about what you want and need Detective. Having a baby is tough on any relationship.

Sophia - I trained DS during the summer and got him to hold his Willy down when he was going. He doesn't use a seat anymore so now there's enough room for him to sit back and go. Good luck with it, from the sounds of it you're doing well and sounds like he is ready. With DS I just put him on the toilet every half hour or so for the first few days until he got the hang of it. All in all it took about 3 weeks and there are still sometimes accidents so prepare yourself for it to take a while!

oops just read your other posts sophia, obviously you've done this before... Well you know the score so!

Yay VQ glad it went well. Am almost scared to give L a bottle in case he likes it more than boob. DS1 certainly did.

freddie this is the first boy though and I did a really bad job of potty training DD1, she had accidents till she was five plus, and DD2 did herself when she was nearing three so advice very much gratefully received.

I was going to wait and see if DS 1 would do himself but a few things, he is quite tall and already in size six nappies so would grow out of them soon, he has been chatting a bit about toilets, and, a little bit of pressure, dare I say it so I thought I would see how a couple of days go and if I didn't think he was getting it I would stop quite quickly and wait.

We will see what tomorrow brings!

Milestone moment vq

Ah well done j!!! And vq!!

Thanks for the info petite. I think it's because he also had his jabs and he's just too little to fend off everything. Anyway he seems to be happily taking 3-4oz every two to three hours. Hopefully this will help shift the mucous as we and things will return to normal. It's positively evil!!! Just had him in a steamy bathroom as well. I'll literally try anything!!

The dr said last time I went they're ill and seem to spend ages at a plateau. Then they either massively improve or decline. I feel like I'm over reacting going to dr tomorrow when he is ok on terms of danger signs. But he's had this a week. I dunno. Am I over reacting?!!

He really is a prize dick.

He is texting me, but it is clearly what his mum is telling him. Idiot.

Horsey IMO you can't over react with babies they can very suddenly and very quickly decline.