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November 2012 - sleepless nights aplenty

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StuntNun · 20/12/2012 14:49

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1635480-November-2012-all-the-babies-have-arrived

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pikz · 31/12/2012 22:03

A early happy new year in case devil child ever decides to sleep and I crash with him! Thank you for everything this year x

TheDetective · 31/12/2012 22:35

PR Hoping 2013 brings a little more luck and health to you all!

I've never been interested in new year, I'm all for christmas... new year is just an irritant to me! Last year DP spent it on the toilet, running down at 23.59 just in time to wish a happy new year, and ran back to the loo! That's IBS for ya...! So whatever, this year can't be as shit (geddit!) as that!

I would, however, like to say - thank you for a wonderful year, sharing all our highs, and even the lows (because that is where we come in to our own, supporting one another!) through our pregnancies, and the new baby days. This thread has kept me a) sane b) feeling supported and c) out of prison for murder Grin.

I'm looking forward to this next year, and wondering if it can surpass 2012 - which was an amazing year! And I am looking forward to hearing about all the firsts in our babies lives! First smiles, first teeth, first roll over, first sitting up, first crawling, first steps! The firsts are endless! So keep the chatter coming - because I love to read it!

So thank you ladies, you have all been a rock to me! Especially when it came to the longest pregnancy ever (well, my longest pregnancy ever anyway!) and the emotional turmoil it threw at me. And putting up with me complaining about my sore fanjo and annoying DP. Grin

And wondering who will have the first pregnancy of 2013 on this thread... I see a few contenders Grin.

See you in the first feed of 2013!

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 22:39

PR- glad to hear things are getting better.

4 hours later and N is still NOT asleep. Angry there has to be a better way.

MIL suggested rocking him for 2 hours Envy, or co sleeping with us. Co-sleeping is dangerous as both DP and I roll alot at night. Sad Rocking him for 2 hours not on my favourite list, and it hasn't really worked.
My mum said "let him cry it out" Hmm
my aunt, "a bit of brandy on his dummy will do the trick" Hmm
My nan, "keep him awake all day out if spite, then he will sleep Shock

Can I have some sensible help?
Evil

TheDetective · 31/12/2012 22:44

Evil, why don't you try a later bed time? Oscar settles for the night at 11pm, which suits us fine, as that is when we tend to go to bed.

When I want him to go earlier, which won't be for a few months yet, then I will start bringing it forward by 15-30 minutes each week, or few days.

What time does he eventually end up going to sleep?

I've never really been one for firm routines though, so I might not be the best help on the matter!

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 22:52

Well generaly it takes two hours for him to go to sleep. Start around about 6 and he is sorta asleep just before 9.

However these past two weeks have been getting worse. He needs his sleep more now that his teeth are moving, the little buggers have not appered yet!!
I can't even go for a pee, during the night cause he just keeps screaming.

Evil

MissMummy1 · 31/12/2012 22:53

Just a very quick post to wish you all a very happy new year and thank you for the amazing support, advice, love and friendship you have offered over the past year. We have all been on such a journey together and I can't believe how fondly I think of you all - incredible, given we've never even met!

Have a good one and here's to the next chapter of our babies' lives! xxxxx

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 22:54

He dost sleep much during the day, and when he does it is 30 min power naps. Evil

Passmethecrisps · 31/12/2012 22:58

evil I have no idea what might help but here is what we do (roughly)

Start planning start bathtime at about 6:30. Feed and sitting up time (for reflux) followed by swaddling in the swaddle me. Put in Moses basket calm but not necessarily sleeping. Pop Ewan on (Ewan is new - previously I would have rocked longer so P was much sleepier) and leave in the sitting room with the telly off and the lights low while we have tea in the kitchen. The usually means p is in her basket and at least settling by 7:30 to 8pm. She then sleeps until about 11:30 - midnight when she gets her meds and a final feed before i take her upstairs for settling for her big sleep.

Keeping a baby awake is not going to work - they become so fractious it will make then much harder to settle and then they are more likely to wake repeatedly.

Whatever routine you choose it might just be about sticking to one. You need to find something that will work for you as a family and work together to reinforce it. I was reading recently about how much babies are settled by predictability so it might be that. Try playing the same music/singing the same song, putting him in the same PJs and so on.

Good luck, Missus!

Passmethecrisps · 31/12/2012 23:02

Lack of daytime sleep might be an issue. Where is the nap place? p has been reluctant to sleep during the day so we are experimenting with different places but know for a fact that she settles better at night when she has rested well during the day.

PetiteRaleuse · 31/12/2012 23:03

It's midnight here in France. Thanks to all for your support, especially the last few days. Happy New Year.

Now, LO, PLEASE sleep. Please. Pretty please.

Elizadoesdolittle · 31/12/2012 23:03

nervous persevere with the bottle. Its still a bit hit and miss for us. I got DD to take it straight away. My DM struggled but got there in the end. DH managed tonight but she sicked it up and when he tried again later he didn't have any luck. My tip is to make sure the milk is nice and warm and I poured some warm water on the teat too and I snuggle her next to me, almost in the breast feeding position. I think she takes it from me easier as she's used to me feeding her. Of course it's pointless me giving it too her as she can have it from source but I may give her a few over the next week so she gets more use to the bottle. I think you and your DH should try a few more times before you give up. Hopefully you'll get there in the end. Good luck.

I'm sat on the sofa in my pjs watching graham norton. Bit different to last year when I was downing shots. I'm not a massive nye fan, in fact I used to hate it but I've had quite a few good nights over the more recent years and I am kinda wishing I was out celebrating with friends. On the other hand both DDs have been sound asleep since 8pm, it's raining outside and I'm nice and warm and cozy plus I have lots of chocolates to munch through (not good for my weight loss thread!). And at least I won't have a hangover tomorrow Smile

Happy new year everyone. Here's to a happy healthy one for you and yours xx

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 23:09

Pass I pretty much do that now. It's just the last few weeks.....have been awful.
We eat at 6,so he is in his Moses basket for a good 45 mins before that. I would change his nappy and put him in a baby gro, after we have eaten. Then take him upstairs for his last feed. Usally he would be grumpy for a while but then go to sleep.

Lately he screams when I'm preparing the evening meal, then when he goes upstairs. Refuses the bottle, then screams a load more.

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 23:10

He has his power naps in the Moses basket.
Evil

Passmethecrisps · 31/12/2012 23:13

Does he do anything other than scream? I mean, back arching or stuff like that? Does the scream sound like a pain cry? Could it be reflux? Sorry - I totally sound like a one trick pony but I read on another thread that some babies develop acid reflux at 3 months. Has LO been sicky?

Passmethecrisps · 31/12/2012 23:14

Actually, I read somewhere else about a 3 month sleep regression. I don't know anything about it but it might be worth reading up on

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 23:18

Sometimes he arches his back, but not all the time. Will google the regression. It does sound like a pain scream, but when we pick him up and take him out of the room he grumbles. Move into the room cries. He just wants to be with someone ALL the time. Mum needs sleep too.

Evil

Evilwater · 31/12/2012 23:18

Not sicky.

Elizadoesdolittle · 01/01/2013 00:21

Woop woop, I made it past midnight. Happy 2013.... I'm now off to bed!

TheDetective · 01/01/2013 00:33

Well this year, DP made it off the toilet with 4 minutes to spare. Hmm

I'm sensing a theme in our new year 'celebrations'.

Exciting times in the Detective household! Grin

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StuntNun · 01/01/2013 00:41

First feed of the night here. Less than eight feeds tonight please J, this growth spurt can't last forever can it?

Happy new year to you all!

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KissysUnderTheMisteltoe · 01/01/2013 00:47

Happy new year lovely ladies xx

NervousReindeer · 01/01/2013 01:15

Happy New Year Ladies and Babies I hope 2013 is a great year for you all. This thread has been so much help and support throughout my pregnancy and now with my beautiful DD. you are all love,y and so helpful and supportive and I'm grateful for a,m the help and advice you've given me through 2012

NervousReindeer · 01/01/2013 01:17

pass & eliza. I'm going to preserve for a while longer, lo can take a bottle but it seems to be on her terms which is very rare, will keep trying but it's devastating throwing bm away when expressing is hard work and its a struggle to get. Ugh but heyho

GTbaby · 01/01/2013 01:42

Is Ewan meant to be quite noisy? Sounds annoying to me!

DonnaDoon · 01/01/2013 01:50

Evil I may be wrong but I think it's trapped wind...is his tummy hard? both my boys had this and I'm sure it was relieved by lots of tummy time and firm tummy rubs.