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November 2012 - sleepless nights aplenty

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StuntNun · 20/12/2012 14:49

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YellowWellies · 30/12/2012 21:09

Pikz I think you're a total legend btw! :)

PetiteRaleuse · 30/12/2012 21:11

Evil, your baby is 12, 13 weeks? I would say he's having a bad day. And subconsciously making you pay for it. You are the only person that he CAN be himelf with. It's not deliberate. Bt it is common for 3 months babies to go through a phase where they behave for everyone but mum. In France they say they are testing you. I don't believe that. But I do think at that age they know who mum is and know that your love is unconditional so he can scream as much as he wants. Does that make sense? It's a good thing. And it won't last for long.

I could go into the whole psychological explanation (sil is psychologicst) but I think that it's better not to overthink it. It's a phase. You'renot doing anything wrong. Jst accept him as he is, right now. I remember this with DD1. It sucked, but it lasted a matter of days.

CandyPop · 30/12/2012 21:13

pr glad things are going in the right direction

pitz I totally sympathise ... I had major breastfeeding issues up until last week. Major mastitis , shooting pains in breast after feeds that left me in agony hrs afterwards... To the point I had to give a couple of bottles of formula. We just have to do what's best for us. Plenty of us ( me included) was formula fed and I (think) I turned out ok :D

evil no advice but having a fussy nighttime baby I know the frustration !

blonder she sleeps on me but when I transfer her she wakes up within 10 mins and then starts crying .....

Gonna try Ewan again tonight !

God I'm so sleepy. Hope we have a goodnight tonight !

PetiteRaleuse · 30/12/2012 21:13

Evil, your DP is a typical bloke. Mum knows best. Over the months and years he will realise you know best.

Evilwater · 30/12/2012 21:16

PR it feels like a week. I know he is teething, but this grumpiness has gone on for 3 weeks. So much for bed time routine, I guess is he sleeping with me tonight.

Hope all of yours is getting better.

Nite all, hopefully.
Evil

Evilwater · 30/12/2012 21:19

Candy- he just screams and screams, with more screaming.
Evil

PetiteRaleuse · 30/12/2012 21:20

It'll pass. Although it doesn't feel like it right now you are the only one with your dp that can comfort him completly. If he wants to shout at you, then at the moment you can't reason with him to stop him shouting. See yourself as a soundng board, and calpol is your friend if you think he is in pain.

FatimaLovesBread · 30/12/2012 21:45

883 posts and I still need to catch up. That was my plan for today along with watching numerous episodes of gossip girl. I haven't had enough energy though.

M and I have got the lurgy, don't think it's flu as I have been able to move although not much and begrudgingly. Ideally I'd take myself off to bed but with a poorly 5+2 wheeler who wants cuddles and boob its been hard work. Also don't think it's a cold as I've been having severe chills followed by fever Sad

On the plus side I'm going to use the fleece pjs MIL bought. Normally I wouldn't see the point in a central heated house with thick duvet but after last night chills. Only problem is fleece ( and cotton wool and velour) really make me cringe. Oh well, the lurgy wins out.

How's everyone else? Going to read the last couple of days post.

Also, Detective and anyone else who has Ewan the dream sheep, is it good?

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 21:49

pikz your commitment to feeding your LO breast milk is completely astonishing. You have done an incredible job and any 'compromise' you make with adding formula will make no difference to you LO other than allow you to focus on recovering your strength. Feeding out babies is such a primal thing.

evil whatever is wrong with your LO it is not you! Remember that they pick up our anxiety so, however difficult it is, try to remain calm. You are the one person your LO knows literally inside out so try not to take this phase personally.

stunt the decision if and when to have more children is so massively personal. I am sorry if what I wrote earlier was insensitive or made you or anyone else feel the need to justify anything. You never know, by the new year I might be well up for another one!

petite my goodness, don't apologise for sharing what you are going through. This is a place where you should be able to offload and share without concern. I find other people's experiences give me some grounding.

YW the experience of immediate cure when baby is faced with a health professional is one we are very familiar with! Weeping in the GP's surgery saying she had been crying herself blue for hours and refusing to eat looks fab when your baby is quite happily stripped to the nappy and being manhandled by a dr! I do hope that the omperazole works

P has been a pretty grumpy lady today. She sleeps such a lot t night (no complaints there) that she refuses to sleep at all during the day. This makes her completely fractious. Ah well, it's no biggy really

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 21:51

candy I have been dreadfully tired today - I have no idea why. Earlier I had Ewan all pulsing away - P was bright eyed and bushy tailed while I was fighting to stay awake!

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 21:56

Aw fatima I am sorry you are poorly. My brother bought us Ewan and I love it. Bearing in mind P is already a good sleeper Ewan just speeds the process of self-settling along. Also, this morning P was starting to grunt as strain in her sleep - a sure fire cause of her waking up usually. I stuck the sheep on and we got another 1.5 hours.

I had been using a white noise app which was doing much the same job. The benefit of Ewan is that I can keep my phone. I also think the red light is good.

pikz · 30/12/2012 22:00

Fatima I find the same as pass said it helps Luc self settle a d gets us extra sleep during the night.

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 22:11

Actually, another key benefit of Ewan is that he sends me to sleep. Unlike wee P I am not a good sleeper but a bit of Ewan action has been helping me along nicely

pikz · 30/12/2012 22:13

Haha pass DP and I joke that when we move L into his own room we will have to buy ourselves one to help us continue to sleep

PetiteRaleuse · 30/12/2012 22:22

Who is this Ewan of whom you speak? I like the idea of a Ewan sending me to sleep (and I can't blame LO)

pikz · 30/12/2012 22:26

PR it's ewan the dream sheep. He's a fluffy sheep that glows red and makes white noise/ womb sounds. I can't link on my phone but you can get from amazon etc

horseylady · 30/12/2012 22:31

I will see how the next few years go before deciding about any more. Currently I'm like pass. love it, it's worth it all but I also want to see how he goes. He took over two years ttc so who knows about another one. I told dh we'd talk about it once ds turned 1. I know he's keen on two.

I came home from riding to find a very stressed dh. Ds had cried none stop for the 90 mins I was out. I took him, he was still hysterical so gave him water. Did nothing. Tried everything else but couldn't calm him. So decided it was some sort of pain (it was a real high pitched scream) so gave him some calpol :( anyway it seemed to work. I was also annoyed though as I'd asked for colour free calpol but got coloured :( whatever was wrong with him, the calpol seemed to help within an hour. It's the first time neither of us have been able to calm him :( anyway he's back to his normal self now.

Petite glad she's looking better.

Jabs tomorrow if he's well enough.

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 22:36

PR try some white noise on your phone. I can't blame P either I love sleeping but have never found it come very easily. I sometimes find the noise a bit irritating but if I am drowsy it really helps to tip me over the edge

Passmethecrisps · 30/12/2012 22:39

That sounds horrid horsey. P has been a bit like that the last couple of days. I wondered if she might have a sore head or something.

PetiteRaleuse · 30/12/2012 22:40

Thanks. I'm downloading some free white noise apps now :)

ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings · 31/12/2012 00:09

After generally feeling tired, down, grumpy & sorry for myself all day, I had a bit of a quiet cry before coming to bed, burdened with the guilt of feeling like I'm failing both dc. My mum & I had had a good chat on the phone & she said "you're not doing anything wrong, you're not being a bad mum, its just this is the way it is with 2 kids" & it was reassuring but I didn't process it until this evening. I've decided to be a bit more proactive. TV is not going to be on cBeebies all day every day, I'm going to start getting down on the floor with DD & playing whilst feeding. I'm going to get on top of the housework backlog & keep on top of it, but only after I've spent time talking & playing with both dc. I'm going to make that my new year's resolution.

evil hugs. Agree with PR. Repeat "this too shall pass" ad infinitum.

CandyPop · 31/12/2012 01:39

pass my LO is still getting use to Ewan , doesn't completely send her off to sleep but keeps her calmer for longer. However I agree, maybe it's the tiredness but it sends mt and dh right to sleep!!

chunky ur being way to harsh in yourself. You are doing great . I admire anyone dealing with more than one child.... I'm seriously struggling with just the one! U news time to adjust to ur role as mum of two from being mum of one.

TheDetective · 31/12/2012 01:58

Fatima, same as everyone else, helps self settle, and when things would usually wake him, means he stays settled a bit longer. Plus it sends me off too Grin. Also keeps him calmer while I hotfoot it downstairs in the night for his feed, or do a nappy change when he is hungry.

It isn't a guarantee, but 8/10 it seems to work for us!

Clarella · 31/12/2012 02:07

hi all!

sorry it's taken 3 weeks to check in - all I can say is c sections suck!

anyway I hope all are well and enjoying your los even though your nipples are aching and you long for sleep!

I just wanted to proudly say that my little George Cosmo born on the 10th Dec at 42 weeks but only 5lb 2oz is now over 7lb and counting! i was in shock and very worried that first week or 2 but demand feeding really has paid off :) my placenta was small and as he was over due we think he'd lost fat as was just very skinny. filling out now :)

will attempt to lurk and keep up - very much hope everyone is well - your posts really kept me going those last couple of weeks

daisychain76 · 31/12/2012 02:52

Congratulations clarella and love the name.

l am another who finds Ewan tips thebalance when H is a bit unsettled or fairly wide awake.

Stunt l would really like a 4th. for similar reasons to you ~ l feel quite sad H will not have a playmate close in age. Dh is insistent he should be our last, because of the stress on the whole family with the pre~eclampsia/Nicu, but l have not got that ?my family is complete? feeling some people talk about.

pikz it. sounds like you are doing an amazing job. chunky don?t put. too much pressure on yourself. Your dd having to entertain herself/wait a little will foster independence and self~reliance. I think you always feel slighly torn/gguilty. with more than one, but have to bear in mind that, imho, the positives to a child of having siblings far out~weigh any negatives.

Waiting to get Ewan on now when H finally unlatches from his completely unnecessary comfort feed...