November 2012 - all the babies have arrived

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Hugs and best wishes to tits and pass - fingers crossed your littlies are home again soon xxxx

YW that is a great blog, very good to read about and be reminded that he is doing what he needs to make it work. I just dont like seeing him in what I perceiving to be pain/discomfort. His symptoms are similiar, but not identical. He's actually drawing up his legs in pain with wind after 2/3 deep sucks. DH thinks he does it more on one boob - do they have a preference?!

I will persevere, but am also keen to keep the daily bottle (which is at different times of day depending on what suits me) as I need DS to switch to bottle fully by 5 months when I am back at work. Also, mixed feeding saved breastfeeding for me with DD - without it, I would have given up at three weeks, but managed to mix feed until 20 weeks. So it was always my intention to mix feed this time, but often I have to resist the temptation to just make the full switch now.

He took a bit more from the breast, chugged 2.5 ounces of formula on top, and then did a deeply satisfying poo. I could tell it was satisfying from the grunting and the expressions, and the fact he is now quite content in his chair while I mumsnet potter about doing chores. He also did the semi-smile we have been getting for a couple of days - not yet a full on beam, but a crinkley half smile.

Oh - and I weighed him. Up too 11lbs 2oz at 6 weeks, following his centile nicely. AND - breathe!

lane we're getting fewer poos here too but lots of skid marks (typical boy)... Plenty of wet nappies though. I think they look like they're straining but sometimes they just don't like the sensation of pooing or farting.

All the best pass & Tits

DS is smiling now but not with his mouth as such - its mainly his eyes if that makes sense. He also has gone relatively ages between feeds in the last 24hrs & has been awake a lot more today - developmental leap or just lucky??!! (He's 4+5wo).

Is it normal to not feel "loved up" with the DC all the time? I assume from the eBay comments others feel similar - just want 5mins where there isn't a toddler being rebellious or a newborn demanding a boob or a house needing a thorough clean to be ME again!! I do love them but its not a big gushy over-whelming love, its more just a contentment when they're being good and/or cooperative. Is that weird?

Madame great description of a smile - that's just what J is doing. It's definitely not his windy smiles (which we reckoned looked like Ernie Wise doing showman smile!) but it's a coy half smile at the mo. They can have a preference for boobs and often prefer the one that has the best flow, or your left boob as they can hear your heartbeat most clearly (awwww).

MM sounds like you are back on track - well done hon! It's a fecker for sleep but you've done it! Well done xxxx

DH is working from home this afternoon. Whoop. Or so he thinks.

J has yet to have a bottle of bf as DH has been too busy at 7 weeks I hope we have not missed the boat. The girls started at about 2 weeks, but I plan to be off longer this time so not such an issue. He will be 10 months hopefully by then, so pretty established on solids, and I can feed him morning and night and weekends. I can also feed him lunchtimes if my boss lets me stay local. We do not have any plans to go out as finding a babysitter for 3 is not possible.

No Chunky, I dont think it is weird at all. I love my DC very, very much, but not, I dont think, in the whole hallmark-they-complete-me way (if that even really exists outside the film industry), and sometimes I wonder if I made a mistake having them, and sometimes I feel like running away, and sometimes I just cant bear to contemplate the drudgery of it all, and I miss being me, and my life pre-DC and pre-DH sometimes too. But I am also not the kind of person who thinks my DH is the "one", or my soulmate.

I also think it is possible to feel 2 conflicting emotions at the same time, i.e. love but also the feeling that you describe above about wanting 5 mins to yourself. I look forward to days when DH at work and DD at nursery for some peace, but miss them at the same time? So I think you can feel not "loved-up" whilst still loving deeply. Make sense?

I dont know VQ, cant you ambush some over-enthusiastic teenager who is desperate for cash?! Fair enough, they might only do it once, but worth a try?

Snuggled up in bed, listening to the rain. Today we are most definitely having a duvet day! I did have aspirations of doing things. But I ain't venturing out the door in this .

fatima - me and baby have thrush at the moment. hot, itchy nipples - very red and swollen and angry around the nipples. baby has/had a couple of spores on the inside of his cheeks. both been on meds since mon and feeling much, much better.

hi chunky - not weird at all. i feel the same. i love baby - especially the smooshes after feeding but the crying frustrated baby parts/non washed me/messy house - not so much

Thanks madam & kitkat glad I'm not the only 1! I think I feel a bit bad that I'm not make to enjoy either child v much at the mo - always seems that there's something needing doing. Maybe it'll be easier at 6+wks/after Xmas

Am hoping for the same Chunky

PR my DS1's cradle cap cleared up by shampooing his head every day. I used to fill the sink with warm water and just wash his scalp over it then dry it quickly rather than bothering with a bath every day.

Madam can you feed with your baby in a more upright position e.g. with a pillow under the head but legs lower down? Are you using Infacol or Colief to help? Remember that everything gets easier after 6 weeks as well.

I have 8 weeks (next tues) as our turning point - hopefully the thrush and growth spurt will be behind us then - but that is v soon. More realistically I'm focussing on 11th Jan when we move south to the same place as my sis / are back in civilisation / can leave the house without full on all-weather gear (and hi vis - its so dark here in the winter) / are in a house where you don't need to shovel coal every two hours as our real turning point. It already feels like we've turned a corner BFing wise now at 7 weeks we're both in the swing of it.

Chunky I have always thought having a child would be part of my life, not my life. I love ds I'm glad I have him here, I can't imagine him not being here. But my life was fine without him. I am still me. I just have the added role of mummy.

Id probably feel much different with 2!!!

Pass / hugs

Here's another blog to cheer you ladies up: www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-nature-brainwashes-you-into-taking-care-babies/

Hi everyone, just popping in quickly before Spencer wakes up from his nap. Have been completely consumed by trying to find a rhythm managing 21mo DD and 6wk old DS. It's a challenge, but I suppose we're getting there.

I hope all the poorly babies are on the mend very soon.

chunky I definitely relate to wanting five mins to myself -- I think it's completely normal and doesn't mean you don't love your kids with your whole heart. But this is a pretty full-on job, with breaks that seem far too few, so don't feel guilty for craving, and sometimes demanding, a little time to yourself.

S is 6 weeks old today and I'm delighted to have reached this point with no complications from my ELCS -- this recovery was soooo much better than the one with DD.

S is doing great, though a very sleepy little guy. I'm trying to gently steer him into a routine and make sure he doesn't get more than 5 or 6 hours of daytime sleep so that nights go a bit more quietly. We're slowly getting there.

Out of curiosity, how much daytime sleep are your LOs getting these days?

Thanks for the messages everyone, we have a confirmed RSV sample so we're now in with the other bronch babies.
J can't maintain his breathing without oxygen yet so we'll be here a while, grumpy baby is grumpy, he wants to snuggle into bed with mummy and sleep instead he's confined to a giant cot with lots of tubes and wires and beeps.
I am being fed and currently producing ridiculous amounts of milk, I think I'm genetically part cow...

Oh and having caught sight of myself in a mirror here, I realise my acne is so bad I have a red angry looking beard and moustache of spots

At about 2.30 this morning, DH stirred as DS was kicking off - feeding lying down and fed, but wanting to sleep with nip on mouth, so he tried his thumb but could not do it happily - and DH asked if I was ok. I replied ' I fucking hate this shit, I am so fucking tired' (I did not mean DS was the shit, just the general shittiness of tiredness). DH rolled over without saying a word

Tits - I wouldn't say that too many times :)

Vq hugs x

DS was awake all day yesterday bar 20mins in pram, but today is only waking for feeds. I have 3 years as a turning point