November 2012 - all the babies have arrived

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I feel your pain VQ being in sole charge of feeding the wee one can be lonely - it can feel like a lot of pressure when DH hands me the squawling babe with the line 'sorry mate I haven't got the goods go to Mummy' - we only do one EBM bottle but I hope we don't lose it as it's so nice just for one feed to dump him on Daddy share the responsibility.

Thank you horsey I am ok. Things are much harder at night especially when DHs snoring is keeping you and baby awake. Seriously considering moving into nursery with DS.

VQ that's good to hear about the sleeping - sometimes (most of the time) Jonas is only awake for 2-4 hours a day other than when feeding. He still sleeps at night but is a very sleepy chap. Is this because he was early? Or is he just a lazy bugger? or is he bored of us already?

VQ I have kicked DH out into spare room. I know what you mean, even when I leave DS with DH and I know he's full, DH tries to settle him but all too often and too easily, decides he needs feeding by me. I find myself having to work very hard at the moment to remember that I do quite like Dh really.

Ds spends a fair amount of time awake in the day. He also fights going to sleep. This makes him grumpy. He's started licking his hands now. He still licks mummy. And her jumpers/hoodies/coats/skin.

Vq hugs again.

VQ Know exactly where you're coming from. Determined to keep going but it is HARD. And Madam me too!! I am.grateful I'm not a lone parent but I do catch myself wondering if it would be that much harder than now...

Tits I bet you're udderly fabulous

horsey I use DS's rooting/suckling reflex to get kisses - I give him a kiss on the cheek & he goes to town... Does that make me a bad Mummy?!! :)

DH has had the kraken on him in the sling for the last hour and is running me a bath. Ahhhhhhh it's nice to have some peace and me time. He is forgiven for the panicking and resorting to BF make it all better whenever J cries!

I've been walking around with my norks out whilst the thrush cream dries and DH commented that I should do this all the time - I'm just hoping not to have to do this next week when his folks are up for Xmas!!!

Tits - it sounds like you too might have wet nurse genes (a charming comment from my HV)!

Fish and chips for tea tonight nom - then catching up on last week's The Killing in time for tomorrow's finale. Hope everyone has a lovely evening.

Chunky we can do it. It's hard but the best things in life are (ahem, that sounded ruder than I intended). Lots of good vibes being sent your way for sleepy nights and quick feeding babies.

Tilly has just crapped on the carpet

I left dh changing her upstairs while I came down to find biscuits and juice get organised for our next feedathon. In his defence, leaving her lying on the floor while he dug out a clean babygrow was a safer option than the changing table. But why the hell did he not think to stick a clean nappy on her first?!

MM a lesson learned then! Assemble everything you need before you start the job. My changing table has pockets down the side, and I keep a vest and gro in each of them on one side so there is always an outfit to grab.

All the best tits and pass - hope you're both home soon .

Tits - was the sats monitor beeping for no apparent reason for you to swear at it? 'N's seemed to do that a lot .

Had my interview and left N with my sister while i was in there - she took 2 bottles no problem and was generally angelic :-)
She has done nothing but sleep all day though so i'm not optimistic about tonight .

my DP is also in the spare room , i can't see the point of neither of us getting any sleep and he does get up with DD1.

Thanks YW you too!! :)

Think my message failed to post earlier. I have maxi cosi cabriofix. Has anyone else taken the head support thing out yet? LO seems to big for it, have to seat him too low n slouched for his head to fit.

Any ideas.

Work was great n LO was so well behaved!

It's my first night out since having DS tonight. It's my work Christmas party and my parents are babysitting. My brother is also there and my auntie is going round to see him as well so I know he's well taken care of but I miss him so much already! Has everyone else left their LO with others yet?

I have apple. Once for dr appointment at 2 weeks. N I went for lunch at 6 weeks as it was my 30th bday.
On Sunday I am going up to Birmingham for a family don leaving him with mil.
N wed I have my staff xmas do.
Leaving him so much already. Am I bad mum? Lol.

Evening all.

tits I am so sorry to hear about your LO being in hospital.

I am astonished and astounded horsey that someone would presume to pass comment on anyone's feeding 'choices'. She is obviously a total arse. Sweep her out of your head.

Thank you to those who sent well wishes for wee P. after my rather tearful post on Wednesday night, we ended up taking p to A&E due to her continued hysterical cry.We were seen there by an out of hours GP who felt that her tummy was bloated but that there was nothing really wrong. He gave us some calpol. Thursday morning we had a GP appointment and told him all the symptoms - by that point p was eating a maximum of 30ml at a time before becoming hysterical, arching her back, gagging and so on. GP was ace and was very concerned. He thought she had a temperature and sent us up to the paediatric ward at hospital.

All this time P had been sleepy well, once we got to the hospital she made sure everyone knew she was poorly. She screamed a d screamed for hours. Eventually after blood tests, ursine samples and much going over of the symptoms it was agreed that she had acid reflux. By this stage they were so concerned about her fluid intake and the state she was in that they kept her in overnight. We are home now with a bag if medication bigger than her. She is now on infant gaviscon, Zantac and domperadone as well as a new treatment for her thrush which hasn't improved after a fortnight of medication.

She is sleeping now and eating is less of a trauma now she has medication. However, she is still uncomfortable and is likely to remain so until her gut matures.

I have no idea how people cope when their LOs are tubed up as I found the whole process of just being in hospital very traumatic.

pass & tits hope your babies get better v soon x

gt I've left Dots while I've popped into town for a pedicure lol and am leaving her with dh on sun as its works Xmas doo which will be nice and weird!!

How soon is everyone returning to work?? I am going to uni in march full time when Dottie will be 4 mths and unfortunately we have no lovely grannies or aunties to help us with childcare so need to way up pros and cons of nursery vs child minder - im leaning towards day nursery but am worried that she won't get any fresh air and will be cooped in a room all day :( what's everyone else doing for child care?? And any ideas how to get over the guilt?? ( my other 2 I was fortunate to be a sahm for first 2 years)

After Xmas I'll be looking at nurseries and childminders - apart from ofsted, what else should I look for?

GT Ive now stopped using the head support in the car seat

Good to see you back pass hopefully that will sort the little one out.

glenda my kids go / went to nursery. They take them out whenever possible. They even have AstroTurf to ensure this. I found nursery much more reliable than CM. They only close Christmas and New Year, do not charge extra for public holidays, and they always have enough staff. I found it frustrating taking time off when the CM was ill, or her kids, or when she was on holiday. That does not happen with a nursery. Also my kid spent all day every day doing the school run, stuck in a car or buggy, or in front of the TV while the CM was helping the older kids with homework. In nursery they will be with kids their own age and have age appropriate activities. I am sure there are good childminders (like on this thread ) but I have yet to find one that worked for me.

Pass great news that you're home - domperidone is the best stuff for reflux - my niece has it. It's good shit!

What meds did they put her on for thrush? - Jonas has been being treated for 9 days now and it's not gone yet so I'm curious and might challenge the doc on wednesday about it.

GT we don't use the head support in the car seat - actually we haven't since he was about 2 weeks as it just crammed him down.

I have a soft insert in my car seat that fits for some time. I bought it from BabiesRus for DD1 many moons ago. It kinda has soft pads both sides of the head.

Am fidgeting like a fly on speed trying to sit here long enough to post. Stupid fucking fanjo. Fanjo for sale anyone...?!

Pass That must have been awful for you. I hope the medication does the job :(

Glenda I go back April 28th . DP will then take 3 months off (better get his shit together by then ) and then after that DS will be going to a childminder. Not that I have looked yet. But a childminder is the better option for us most likely. Plus I had better experiences with childminders than nursery first time around. For the hours we need a childminder will be our cheaper option as we need tues 10-4 and fri 10.30-3.30 as DP will be doing his basic hours, and I am requesting to work earlies or nights only on a tuesday. Am hoping work will grant this wishful thinking. These hours don't work well for a nursery as would have to pay for all day.

I found DS was more settled with a childminder, and the ones I have used only did a school run to one school, locally, so the school run was an hour a day. But if it doesn't work for Oscar, then we will look at a nursery.

I also found the childminder much more flexible for the awkward hours that the NHS chucks at you! I had a childminder who agreed to do up to 9.30pm 2 evenings a week for us if we needed it (only needed one evening maybe twice a month, but when we needed it, we needed it. Yes we had to pay a premium for it though!)

I too will be looking after christmas. I need childcare from August, although I am hoping to take the first 2 weeks of August as annual leave. Which reminds me, I need to email my requests in!! Eeek!

Got a nice gift in the way of ££ from my Dad today. Which reminds me. Need to check last posting dates. Better at least send a christmas card . Considering the last I heard from him was 'r u serious' when I told him Oscars name... .

Anyway, money is going on a dress for me, a sling (YAY!), a few new clothes for DP, and then save the rest for clothes for me for after christmas in the sales. Or more likely, when I have shifted this blubber? How can one be the same weight but have a spare tyre that was definitely not as huge as this before?! Crumbs (or lack of crumbs maybe?! )

So glad it is the weekend. One week left in school, then no fucking school run for 2 weeks YAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! Can you tell I am happy about this?!

Oscar is settling in to a little routine. He feeds 3 hourly, pretty much on the dot. Once a day he goes 4 hours, seems to be the evening time. He has a wakeful period seems to be in the morning, 9-12ish, but apart from feeding, sleeps the rest of the time. Have just put him in the basket unswaddled for the first time. He seems actually more settled?!

DP is learning. Slowly. He is tasked with sterilising and making up feeds, since I prefer to do the majority of feeds still (I like it as bonding time!). I made him read the steriliser instructions after I found everything just chucked in any old how . So now the bottles are in correctly, but everything else is still chucked in. I have facebooked him a video to watch on how to put everything in correctly. Wonder if he will learn this time?! Also he has been making up feeds with US fluid oz. It took a loooooong time of explaining that he should probably be following the UK fl oz. So the 6pm feed was made correctly, and Oscar was far more settled fell asleep during and less windy AND less vom, if any to be honest. Hooray.

I would have thought it was common sense to read up absolutely everything on feeding when we I made the decision to bottle feed. I did tell him all this stuff, but given he isn't one for remembering much anything I thought the fact that it could affect his sons health might mean he did something so he would remember and get it right first time, and every time. But no. Especially as we are making up a couple of feeds at a time - even more important to ensure it is right.

GRRRR! Good job he has a big knob, not much else I keep him for.

Just kidding. It's tiny . ROFL!

WFT?! The last posting date was 14th December to western Europe.

Bugger and bollocks. Facebook greetings it is then...

Bugger and bollocks indeed detective - I've got 2 cards for Germany that have been sat on the side awaiting posting for over a week now. Didn't realise the last posting date was so early.

Glad you're home pass Hopefully the meeds will kick in quickly and little P will be feeling much better soon.

I'm struggling to write Christmas cards despite being on the sofa all day... maybe I should get off MN? heresy The last 2nd class posting day is 18th Dec. Must get arse into gear. I think I might have to take the fuse out of the plug on my Mac