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StuntNun · 12/12/2012 23:16

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TheDetective · 17/12/2012 22:22

ROFL! Cheese and onion crisp... haha!

DS1 is old enough to know better, but doesn't. He does the daftest things around Oscar sometimes Hmm. Such as passing plates of hot food or drinks over the top of the moses basket where he is lying, or leaving him on the sofa (when I have told him never ever to do it!). Trying failing to be patient with him, after all, he has been an only one for 10 years. But he was the one who pestered for a sibling! So he shouldn't feel left out or jealous! I think he is a tad though... when I talk to Oscar, just baby talk stuff, like who is mummys clever boy when he burps, DS shouts over ME, I AM. And then goes to copy whatever Oscar has done Hmm. He isn't left out at all, so am Confused. Sure he will stop soon enough!

I think I have hairy legs. I seem to remember noting they were now growing at their pre pregnancy state. I've not had time enough to consider it any more than that though Grin.

I've now had a sleeping baby for over 2 hours. Thank fuck! I think it is trapped wind. I kept him next to me, propped on a pillow for an hour. He slept soundly. Put him in the basket, with a pillow under the basket (we keep it on the floor downstairs) to prop it up. He was a bit fidgety at first, but has eventually settled without me needing to pick him back up or rock him etc. Propping seems to have helped anyway.

Cradle cap - olive oil in first instance. Or I seem to remember using something begining with D for DS1 which worked. Just googled - Dentinox. No idea if its recommended, just that I know I used it to good effect 10 years ago!

Milk spots - got those here too. Poor thing has dry skin, milk spots, and something which upsets me as they will never go away - broken capillaries in both cheeks and both eyelids :( He would need laser treatment I assume as the only treatment option. They were present at birth, still the same now. DP has them too, and they can be hereditary.

Fatima Our babies are the same age, and I am absolutely certain that Oscar smiles. He does wind smiles too, but some of them are genuine and are in response to things he finds pleasurable such as kisses, or soft fabrics being brushed against his skin and his own reflection!.

Can I just announce again that my pelvic floor is destroyed. I've been exercising it, but things haven't felt the same down there. Well, I was on the phone to my mum and absent mindedly went to the loo, and as I started weeing, realised I was in fact on the phone. I tried to stop the flow and couldn't stop it at all, or slow it down. Have tried a couple of times since, and nothing... at all. Everything still hurts down there, and feels wrong. Constant low level throbbing and discomfort. Pants.

Stupid fucking forceps. Hmm

Will self refer myself to the continence service for better exercises. At the grand old age of 28.

TheDetective · 17/12/2012 22:28

Oh, and despite having a sex drive in my head, the actual thought of ever having sex with things as they are downstairs makes me feel like vomiting. It would be complete agony. Not good, is it? :(

I just remembered how I noticed my legs - taking my kecks off for my midwife to check the fanjo last week! And being ashamed at the state of everything my body has become! Clearly not ashamed enough to do much about it though!

TheDetective · 17/12/2012 22:34

Yes to the dry/sore hands - I'm using the oilatum I bought for Oscars dry skin. Seems to be helping!

Horsey, I can answer the reason why there is follow on milk! For formula companies to get away with advertising. Have you noticed that the first milks are never seen on adverts? Probably not... most don't notice, they just see the brand names. It's just a marketing ploy. Health professionals would advise you to stick to the first milks until 1 year old as the main drink, then cows milk. Follow on has no additional benefits to it. I think you can introduce cows milk in food at 6 months, so porridge made with cows milk, cereal with cows milk, but the main drink should be breastmilk or formula til 1 year. After that it is personal choice, if extended breastfeeding, no need for additional milk unless you choose to, or the child wants/needs it.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/12/2012 22:43

horseyfollow on milk is just a money making thing. There is no need as far as I am aware. Although the small bottles are handy if out and about.

I have a tin foil cut in y dry hands. Sorry to sound blokey but it really hurts!

sweetpea1112 · 17/12/2012 22:46

Yes to the hairy legs and scaly hands. Never have I been so attractive. That and my post pregnancy belly... I had abs 9 months ago and now I have a pot belly & separated muscles. But I also have a grunting, snuffling baby so can't complain Grin

I think we are entering growth spurt city here. Oscar is chugging ridiculous amounts of milk this evening - breaking only for a farting session and quick nap.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/12/2012 22:48

detective it will get better over time.my post forceps recovery in that area was really lengthy. I was devastated not to be able to do star jumps at aerobics anymore. Xmas Blush you can imagine...........

TheDetective · 17/12/2012 22:53

Still asleep. I'm going to have to wake the little sod as I want to go to bed, but you can guarantee that he will wake as soon as I nod off!

Pfffft!

Thanks Sophia! I keep swinging from one emotion to the other - think it is actually the worst thing ever being a midwife when you are having complications. Always thinking the worst! But then thinking, nah, it isn't that bad, it'll be fine. Then thinking the worst again. Stupid hormones! Stupid brain!

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/12/2012 22:54

TMI alert.......we DTD!Xmas Grin quite pleased we waited till 8 weeks after DS1 and I felt like I had let DH down by having a vagine like the Grand Canyon. A squillions pelvic floors later and this time, 51/2 weeks after birth, much better. It was just so lovely to be intimate after all this time. And relieved to have got the first time over with I was so nervous.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/12/2012 22:55

Obviously that is 5 and a half not 51! Or I wouldn't be on this thread!

GTbaby · 17/12/2012 23:04

Ok. Sry in advanced. A me me me post. I haven't caught up on last few days. So sry again. Hope u are all well x

Had a massive argument with mil.
Ok seriously. Is leaving ur kid in a poo nappy for 10mins that bad? Considering said LO takes ages have a poo, n was prob still pooing for most of that time.
She had a go at me for letting LO cry sat on a dirty nappy. 10mins. I was trying to finish dinner. So rather then offer to change LO or take over dinner she starts yelling at me. I do nothing all day. I Leave dinner to last min. So am I meant to predict that LO will crap while I'm getting dinner ready? N then drop everything as then H will be late for work. Am I that bad a mum for 10mins?

N before u ask H is useless. He could have changed nappy while I made HIS dinner, he could have told his mum to leave it. He COULD have done something. BUT he didn't. Just said I should help more around the house n be more proactive. Cos I sit around and do nothing all day! I don't do house work. I don't help cook. I do NOTHING fucking Bull shit.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 17/12/2012 23:10

gt yep, in my experience if I go straight for the poo nappy it comes off then he starts pooing again. Very much mess. To me, and I wasn't there sounds a bit bullying to me. They should be supporting a new first time mum not bashing her self esteem.

ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings · 17/12/2012 23:12

My hands are so dry that the skin on my knuckles is cracked & open in places. It is quite sore. I'm using the skin stuff that the GP prescribed for DS when we took him there for his cold 3wks ago. He prescribed other stuff as well, BTW, for the cold - the skin stuff was for the scaly skin.

sweetpea my stomach muscles were miles apart but seem to be getting closer (at 5+1w after birth). I'm hoping they continue to improve without any input from me.

ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings · 17/12/2012 23:17

First milk/formula isn't legally permitted to be advertised. However, because 'follow-on' milk is an optional product & not a bm replacement, it is allowed to be advertised.

GT I think I would have said "you know where the wipes/nappies are..."

Passmethecrisps · 18/12/2012 00:26

Hia!

Super fast check in. I am at home. Wee p is having daddy time at hospital. I had a meltdown this morning after another night of tube feeding followed by vomming followed by me trying to force a few ml down the throat of a screaming baby.

Is it really that odd to be tearful under those circumstancs though? I mean, I am getting about 3 hours sleep a night and am sad and worries about my child - why do the medical peeps look at me as though I am going mental?

Anyway, DH insisted that I come home and leave him there. I am so knackered and feel only 99.9% guilty about it. They will be fine. He is her daddy after all.

Fingers crossed we will all be home tomorrow. They were wanting to hit 400ml in 24 hours and when I left we were 5 ml short. I am hoping they don't hold that 5ml against her!

Passmethecrisps · 18/12/2012 00:28

Oh, and I have the marvellous smell of massive, healthy, yellow baby poo in my nostrils after P managed her first typical newborn poo since stopping the breast milk. The possibility of milk intolerance looks highly likely.

priscilla101 · 18/12/2012 00:38

Sympathies pass, I sobbed throughout a10 minute appointment the other day, so cannot imagine how I would be in your situation. Really hope you sleep, p eats and you all get to be home together soon x

kirrinIsland · 18/12/2012 00:38

gt :( That sounds rubbish, even worse if DH didn't fight your corner or help you. I always leave it a few minutes once they've poo'd - just to be sure they've finished.

n has started smiling at DP, but not at me. I can't decide if that's because she just sees me as a source of food or because DP is more fun?!

priscilla101 · 18/12/2012 00:44

Oh and horsey, by one,I would probably bf morning and night only. Cows milk in food or daytime drink, HTH

GTbaby · 18/12/2012 03:22

Finally caught up!

I have rough hands and über hairy legs. Although managed eye brow threading other day. Which I would have left a few more days had I not had a family thing on Sunday! Lol

Sweetpea hope all is ok still.

I'm still fuming about whole argument. Mil looked after LO Sunday n told me how she changed his nappy n he was still pooing, n last week she did same thing n he she messed up the changing mat, which was a travel one n she used the wrong side, so rather then wipe clean had to scrub it and leave to dry outside. SO you would think she knows to leave him a while. Argh. Why do I always think of good things to say AFTER the arguments.

Bryzoan · 18/12/2012 03:50

Hugs to you pass. Crying lots in those circs is perfectly normal. It is a horrid situation.

Only thing I would say is that the medical ten know that - that is prob why they are keeping an eye in you. I felt the same When I was in Nicu with dd1 for her first month - then when I did get close to losing it they got dh to take out for the evening and arranged for him to stay with me a night to give me support (I didn't want to leave as was trying to establish bf). So while I thought they were judging me they
were actually being supportive. Hope you get some good sleep tonight. Def no need to feel guilty leaving her with her daddy.

Hope you all get out tomorrow - great news you've found the problem. If they do want to keep her another day try not to get too dispirited - that kept happening to us and I think it was the hardest part. Will have my fingers crossed for you.

Sweetpea - glad things are looking up :-) you will all get there.

GTbaby · 18/12/2012 03:59

Pass hope ur resting or rather sleeping! Pls don't use this time away from LO to do silly things like housework!

Meanwhile here I am still stewing. Nothing like an unreasonable mil to set off sleep problems.

sweetpea1112 · 18/12/2012 04:10

GT I lived with my MIL (and OH!) for a while and could not imagine doing so with a baby. (I think I am right in thinking you live with MIL Confused ) so I think you are doing incredibly well in very difficult circumstances. I second whoever said that MIL and your H should be supporting you in your role as new mother. I know how important support is. I hope you have enough support from other sources and aren't too isolated.

Decent night here by our standards - 2.5 and then 3 hours between feeds with a 1.5 hour sleep both times. Little O seems to be getting the hang of this night time malarkey.

GTbaby · 18/12/2012 04:37

Thanks sweatpea. Yes I live with pil n OH. (Not DH todayAngry). It all started cos OH got annoyed as LO was crying n he told me to change him. I said two mins as I was almost done. She jumped on the " have a go at gt" bandwagon.

What really winds me up is this accusation of I never do anything. I sit around all day.
Can't believe I'm still awake. 2 hours of precious sleep wasted.

sweetpea1112 · 18/12/2012 04:49

Lack of sleep is bad enough when it is caused by a baby but even worse when caused by MIL. I would say to try and forget it and get some sleep but I lost out on precious sleep last night because I was annoyed at my OH (no DF here either!)

Is your living situation a long term one?

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