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November 2012 - all the babies have arrived

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StuntNun · 12/12/2012 23:16

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CandyPop · 16/12/2012 06:34

Thanks girls. Ok I will trust my body!

priscilla we went to see te consultant on weds, I actually thought he jaudice had gone as she wasn't yellow in the face nor eyes no more but consultant said she still was as when he pressed her body ans was sitill slightly yellow. They took more blood and was suppose to call yeterday to give results. I missed their call in the morning. i called back 3 times to try to speak to someone, they kept on saying they will call back but in the end still haven't Angry I will try again today.

I know we were told to feed her every 3 hrs cause of her jaundice but her jaundice does appear to be getting better plus I stuck by that rule durin day so i fifured relaxing it during the night should be ok.

kirrinIsland · 16/12/2012 06:50

This is getting worse not better :( After a 4 hour sleep from 11-3, she then wakes every hour. This is the second night she's done this - hope it's not going to carry on for too long.

sweetpea1112 · 16/12/2012 06:52

Yep it was me with the same OH issue MM Can't wait until he goes back to work. 10 days and counting....I have been up for half an hour and have already been told off for putting a dirty tea towel in the washing machine as it wasn't dirty enough (it was) and for wanting to have cuddles with O when I got up rather than putting him down in his basket (despite DF doing this EVERY morning and O being wide awake!)

He did the night shift last night and O slept brilliantly and was very settled which of course adds weight to his theory that I am a crap mother. This has been the hardest thing about motherhood for me - even worse than the lack of sleep. I dream about having a supportive partner who isn't constantly looking down on me Sad

Hope everyone has had a good night.

Thechick · 16/12/2012 07:20

Hello all. Hope everyone is good. My LO is 10 weeks today. I think we are starting to get responsive smiles, but they are open mouth ones so I'm not exactly sure and he's cooing but without making the sound. Sleeping very badly at night and having longer awake periods during the day.
I have a very hands on dh. He does all the nappy changes during the night every night and goes to work full time. He will sit up with me during the nighttime feeds sometimes. He does a big share of the housework and cooking meals. I didn't realise I was so lucky, I thought all dads did this. We talk a lot. He's not perfect and neither am I, so if there is anything that we are not happy with I tell him and he keeps his to himself.
We don't have a sling yet. I borrowed a moby, a mei tai and an ergo from my local sling library. LO didn't like the moby, I'm getting a mei tai for now and an ergo for when he is bigger.
My LO would love to sleep on his belly. There's been a couple of times during tummy time that he's started falling asleep was gutted to have to wake him.
We are having a few breastfeeding issues. I spoke to a bf consultant last week, but it looks like her techniques aren't working. It's like he's forgotten how to latch. It's quite distressing. We get there in the end but there's lots of crying before hand
Bought a tree yesterday and my double issue Christmas radio times, Christmas can now begin in my household.

Thechick · 16/12/2012 07:39

Just reread my post, when I said, I thought all dads did this, I meant wanting to help out and be with their child, and support their partner. I've told him he doesn't have to do the night time stuff during the week but he says that he wants to. I'm not sure who said it but I was really shocked by the person who said their OH swore at their child because they were crying for 20 mins. That's not nice at all.

Thechick · 16/12/2012 07:47

sweetpea and mm I really think you should talk to your OH. They shouldn't be making you feel like this. You are going to be parenting this child for the next 18 yrs so you really need to find a way to work together.

sweetpea1112 · 16/12/2012 07:58

Thechick you are right. He is very hard to talk to though and it will end in tears which I just cant cope with right now. I am on the verge of tears most of the time and if I start I wont stop. I am hoping things get better when he goes back to work.

Oscar is a little angel though so it is all worth it Smile

Thechick · 16/12/2012 08:17

Sweetpea I'm sorry you are having a hard time. We as women go through so much to have this baby with our bodies changing, carrying the baby, having to change the way we eat and sleep, it touches everything and then we have to give birth which isn't easy whichever method you choose and then the after effects of that and then our hormones are all over the place. The least they can give is acknowledgment and support

sweetpea1112 · 16/12/2012 08:44

Thanks Chick Everyone here is so selfless and supportive of each other - it is a real lifeline.

I am only 2 and a half weeks post natal so am hoping that my hormones and emotions settle a bit at the 6 week mark.

Anyone else not really feeling Christmassy this year? Our tree is up and presents all bought and wrapped but I am not really in the festive spirit this year, which is a shame as a usually love Christmas.

gardenpixies32 · 16/12/2012 08:53

I can't seem to work out if DT1 is under the weather & about to be covered in chicken pox but she slept through for the second time in a row, 11:30-7:02! A lovely surprise but I am worried if she is under the weather as it seems too good to be true! They were 11 weeks old yesterday but 5.5 weeks corrected age. DT2 has not slept through and still wants milk and cuddles at 4am.

Busy week for us. The girls have their ultra sound hip scans tomorrow. And DT2 has her pediatrician appointment on Wednesday for her 'episodes' (I don't know what else to call them). She has had 3 big ones since I last posted about it. One of them was at 2:30 last night. I slept in other spare room and DP was on duty, he called me while it was happening. Her back was arched, red faced and gasping for breath. It is frightening to see but we are much more calm when it happens now as we know what to do. I just hope the pediatrician has some answers.

Glad DP has two days off next week then my parents arrive after Christmas. I haven't see my father for almost 2 years!

TheDetective · 16/12/2012 09:39

I would like to declare DP is one jammy fucking bastard!! It was his turn for the feed as we went to bed plus the next one so I could have the longer unbroken stretch of sleep like he had been getting Hmm.

Well, we only went to bed at 1 as I had loads to do when we got home yesterday trying all my new clothes on. So DP fed Oscar then. I couldn't sleep while he was feeding so lay awake. Last looked at phone at 2.30. DP was asleep by then!!!!

Well, Oscar then slept til 610!! Raaaah! DP did that feed but I had to wake him for it as usual. Then I was awake again during feed (may as well do them myself!) and the even jammier bastard had him fed, changed, and settled in basket by 6.43. GIT!

Of course now it's my turn this is still a night feed okay! he did his 3 hour usual and 1 hour to feed, change and hopefully settle.

Hah! Why does DP get all the luck?! (and why can he sleep through me doing night feeds but I can't sleep through his turn!)

glendathegoodwitch · 16/12/2012 09:41

sweetpea hubby should not be taking over and telling you when you can and can't cuddle baby - have you got a friend you can talk this over with so they can give you some perspective?? Is this part of his personality from before baby?? You are the most important person in baby's life and always will be.

dixie & chick totally wel jel of your amazing hubbies!!! Mine is getting better and has been doing a bit more housework when directed and tonight he is having Dots all to himself between 7-11 so I can go to works doo!!

candy as long as you are demand feeding you will make as much milk as is required so enjoy the occasional longer period between feeds lol

Dottie fed all evening and had 7ozs and finally settled at 1.30 until 9 this am which was lovely!!!

sweetpea1112 · 16/12/2012 09:50

Glenda I have a friend coming over tomorrow so will chat to her about it all. Also going to write him a letter. He has always been like this to an extent - his way is always the right way. We spoke about it before the birth and he agreed to let me lead the way but he seems to be getting frustrated that I am not as efficient at doing things as he is.

He isn't all bad and I am glad that he is a hands on Dad - I think we just need time to find our way as a family.

Oscar really is wonderful and had just woken up so is now looking calmly around at everything. He is a very calm contented baby which makes me very proud Smile

PetiteRaleuse · 16/12/2012 10:03

Another shite night with LO here - she's been bad all week. Really colicky yesterday evening and wouldn't settle except on one of us. I keep meaning to buy a hot water bottle to put in her bed ten minutes before putting her don so the change in temperature doesn't wake her up but I keep forgetting.

MissMummy1 · 16/12/2012 10:28

After taking 3 hours to settle last night, M only woke up at 4.30 and 7.30 for feeds! If DP hadn't fucked up heating a bottle of ebm in the middle of the night two nights in a row he's wasted my milk Angry I would have slept through. She was screaming hungry while he faffed about that I ended up just feeding her myself. Useless daddy Angry

Going to brave a few hours out with M myself this afternoon. I havent driven for about 5 weeks now but feel up to it. Just have no idea where to go. Edinburgh will be mobbed on a sunday so close to xmas. We might just go to tescos.... Or a walk with the dog? Either way I have cabin fever and need out for a while!!

blonderthanred · 16/12/2012 10:34

Ooh my diagnosis of overtired seems to have been right as DS eventually dropped off at 10pm and slept till 2.30am. Then fed and straight back to sleep till 4.30, then ditto till 6.30, then 9.30! So I feel well rested and hopefully so does he.

Sweetpea that is really awful about your DH's behaviour & making you feel crap. Of course you should have as many cuddles as you want. I sometimes feel like my DM and DH are so desperate for me to rest/nap between feeds that they whisk him away at every opportunity but at least I know their motives are caring ones - and now I'm more back on my feet I can take back control a bit more. I hope this becomes true for you, although it's a shame you have to do battle at all.

I am pretty lucky to fall into the 'good DH' camp as he cooks, washes up & nappy changes, but I still find reasons to get unspeakably annoyed at him.

Oh and whoever was getting the flickery smiles while sleeping - I love those! I call them 'sleepy chuckles' as he looks like he is having a good laugh at something.

ChunkyTurkeywiththetrimmings · 16/12/2012 10:36

Just expressed 2oz in about a minute because I hadn't fed A on that boob since 3.30am. I was lopsided & thought it would be difficult for him to feed like that. Love my medela swing & glad that I could pump a "feed" if needed...

sweetpea that must be hard :( I am the 'always right' one in our relationship but I hope that a) most of the time, DH doesn't mind/care about it enough to be upset by me & b) I'm not too obnoxious with it!!

DH has been ok but he still does his own thing first, make changes for his kids second iykwim. He did stay at home with DD last night whilst I took DS & went to Bluewater with my bestie. Got quite a lot so that's good. He also let me stay in bed & took DD downstairs. He's in my good books today except when he's planning championship manager ALL the time.

We DTD this a.m. Bit sore where my stitches were - bit 'chaffed' :( Think lube might be necessary next time. Things we do for babies!!!

kirrinIsland · 16/12/2012 10:46

petit i did the hot water bottle thing, it definitely helped.

sweetpea your DP sounds a bit like mine. His way is the right way and there is no talking to him. Also , everything has to be somebody's fault mine but never his. He can't get that sometimes things just happen.
This morning i have been criticised for the clutter accumulating in the lounge while i am - quote - "just sitting all day" Um , that would be just feeding all day, and believe me, no one is more frustrated about that than me !
It would be nice if i could get the odd compliment here and there as i sometimes wonder why he's still here if he has such a low opinion of me :-(
He does do a lot with DD1 though and he is mostly ok just not wildly supportive .

detective you have sympathy from me - DD1 always wakes at 6.30 for me and 8 for DPI. I have no idea why!!!

kirrinIsland · 16/12/2012 10:49

Blimey - what a self indulgent rant. I do apologise .

StuntNun · 16/12/2012 11:00

I was trying the hot water bottle thing but it's cold by morning so for the last night feed I fed him with his head on a muslin then put him into his cot with the muslin still under his head which seemed to work.

It looks like we have succumbed to the dreaded thrush as well - DS has white spots in his mouth and my right nipple is agonising at let down and achy between feeds. Do I phone the out of hours doctor or wait until Monday?

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YellowWellies · 16/12/2012 11:38

Stunt I'd get treated as quick as you can - tell the out of hours GP it's interfering with feeding and they won't mind.

Thanks for the tip on cold sterilisation to get rid of thrush spores - grrr wish HV had said that days ago!!! DH has just set it up. He's def in the awesome DH camp but I can still get ratty with him - poor love Blush

tits fab news!

Don't know if we're still in the growth spurt or descending into colic territory but wee one has started to have belting good cries for 1-2 hours in an evening. All that settles him is putting him down to cry on his own for 5 mins which calms him enough so then he falls asleep on us.

Candy we just do one feed between 2-5am (on a good night) so if you're pretty established at feeding i shouldn't worry, though when J was jaundiced we had to wake him 3hrly even at night to feed to flush his liver.

As for baby weight I'm still 1.5 stone up but I'd rather BF than be skinny so I'm not dieting and jeopardising that - my wobbly bits are food stores and quite a bit of the weight is in my bra (gone from C to FF), I'm also nervous about running after what HV said about exercise making milk bitter? Is that pants? I'd like to get back running for the fun of it really.

NervousAt20 · 16/12/2012 11:42

Quick Q I got 4oz of BM out the freezer Friday night to defrost and by say Morning it was completely defrosted so out it in lukewarm water and it was fine well Ididt use it when we was out so just remembered its been in my changing bag all night in a cold kitchen, do I have to throw it or can LO hve it today?

prays it will be okay

kirrinIsland · 16/12/2012 12:00

Not sure what the official advice is on that one nervous but personally i wouldn't, even though it is totally gutting to have to bin it.

YW i'd like to think that was pants, not least cos I'd like to start running after Christmas , but i really don't know. I've not heard it before

StuntNun · 16/12/2012 12:18

Don't take the chance Nervous it could cause food poisoning.

It is pants YW some HVs are so ignorant rant saved for another time. First you would have to be exercising pretty hard for there to be a lot of lactic acid in your milk so unless you're exercising to exhaustion it won't matter. Second the lactic acid in your milk will break down over time so unless you run into the house dripping with sweat and immediately feed your baby the lactic acid will have gone. You should feed before exercising anyway so your breasts don't get sore.

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NervousAt20 · 16/12/2012 12:19

It's down the sink I'm such a fool it takes me a minimum of 2 days to get that much milk