November 2012 - hurry up to graduate, we're running out of November

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That's so annoying glenda & feel so frustrated when all HV do is focus on lb & oz rather than other signs. It caused no end of bother for me with my first (DD) and luckily DS has gained this time easily, so the HV couldn't give a monkeys.

Having said that, I've been a naughty mummy & agreed to get DS weighed at a clinic this wk, rather than have the HV come to me, & I haven't been!!! Going on Monday and have been busy, so mehhhhh.

Freddie I miss spending time with my DD - I'm always feeding DS when she wants a cuddle!!

Cat - maybe try the volunteer you can always stop it?

Freddie - thanks for the info, am eating a slice of toast every three hours(ish) but don't feel hungry just very dizzy!! Lots of liquid being taken on board!!

Glendale - rubbish on the weight gain info. A girl in my baby group was told to feed her ebf baby less!! He'd gained too much weight!!

Ds lying on me his nose is streaming :( then he keeps smiling at me!! Bless him!! He's doing the typical male with a cold and flopping everywhere. On me or dh. Think tonight is going to be another long night!!

horsey - glad to hear your at bit better.
glendale - mum knows best! Everyone keeps telling me that, and I'm starting to trust my instincts more. I guess some midwifes missed the training about look at the person, not just the figures.

My LO has figured out that if he whimpers, and half hearted cries he gets picked up. I spent most of this morning with him in my arms. So much for getting stuff done and a routine..... :(

Evil

Also he has been sucking on his dummy pretty much all day. Could his teeth moving at 8 weeks???
He has been burping well the past two days, so I don't think it's the wind.

Evil

Cat I didn't realise you'd lost one of your twins ten years ago. Jeez hon that must have been so hard :( a good friend lost one of her twins just a couple of months before birth last year and had to be hospitalised until they could safely deliver the other. That was hard enough - I can't imagine what you went through. I know all babies are special but after losing a wee one - the twins must be even more precious.

I would SO take the homestart help if it's being offered. You can always just use him / her to do the washing up and cleaning if you're not comfortable having them care for the twins. Glad to hear Saul and River are thriving. They sound to be putting on as much weight each week as Jonas and I'm only feeding one little piglet - you must have wonder norks lady!

horsey hope you're feeling better. I'm dreading being ill. I can handle being a full time Mum milk bar if I'm well and if I ignore the housework.

As for weight obsessed HV - ours didn't turn up today (though she did warn me she had a student with her so might over run) - I'm the one that's gutted as I want to know what the piglet weighs this week. I might go and hop on the scales with him.

Today we discovered that singing 'Always look on the bright side of life' at him whilst I'm stuck on the couch pumping and he's wailing in the cradle - silences him and leads him to give me the funniest WTF look.... he was clearly impressed.

yellow the sight if your pump attached to a breast pump would surely silence anyone!

I find the feeding to much issue bizarre and actually brings me to a question I had about feeding. Lots of stuff I have read or been told suggests you should give baby a 'big feed' towards bed time. Now, I don't get the idea of a big feed. Surely they will eat what they want to eat at what time they want to eat it. How can I force my baby to eat more at bedtime when she doesn't want it or refuse her food at lunchtime when she does? Does anyone have any ideas about this?

How can you overfeed any baby? Certainly not a breast fed one. Hmm, feeding is a constant dilemma!

Sorry, that should read 'your mum' not your pump! Freudian slip perhaps?

I don't know about making a baby have a "big feed" but my DS1 definitely started cluster feeding in the evening all by himself once he was a few weeks old - would have a feed, then want another one almost as soon as that was finished, then want more, etc. etc., and I think it did help him go for a longer stretch once he'd finished. Nothing I did myself though other than just letting him do it. New baby hasn't really settled into a pattern yet but is showing hopeful signs of being hungry in the evening....

Do you ever think that sometimes things were just meant to be? Life never quite went how I planned, but suddenly, since Oscar arrived, I feel complete. Like he has been missing in my life for so long? It's hard to explain but I feel like he was the missing part of the jigsaw. I feel like life has opened up a whole new chapter, a new book even!

My boys are the most wonderful thing in the world! I was definitely ment to have more than one child, that I am sure of!

I agree with leedy and yourself pass there's nothing you can do to make them eat more in the evening. Other than maybe try to distract them from cluster feeding earlier in the day? Mindst J would go batshit if I tried that. He seems to naturally cluster feed now too.

DH came in from work with £80 worth of John Lewis vouchers from his colleagues down south - to welcome the baby. We've got everything we need for Jonas (and annoyingly just spent £100 at John Lewis online getting stuff for him) so we're wondering about treating ourselves. I can't figure out what to get with it....

How are you guys getting on to the product trials? I signed up for MN reviews recently but heard nothing since. Is there something I should be doing or do I wait for them to email me?

yw My daughter was 4 months when she died and ironically the 'healthier' of the two. She fed well and had none of heart problems that her sister had. She was in fact almost twice the weight of her sister by the time she died. I was told that, after the autopsy, aside from the fact that she was dead, she was a perfectly healthy baby. Cause of death was listed as SIDS, but only because they couldn't find a cause.

In my darker moments while i was pregnant i felt like the universe was playing a nasty trick on me and was just terrified about it happening all over again, but most of the time i was ecstatic about having twins again. I'll be happier when they get past the 16 week mark though. Sorry for rambling, hope i haven't brought anyone down :(

Oh catbag that is tragic. I don't think you will have brought any of us down - I think we all need reminded of what previous gifts we have.

detective you are right - some things, when they happen, just make everything else make sense.

Aww cat I am sure we will all hold our little ones closer for hearing of your loss

detective are you overdoing the painkillers? You softie! I know what you mean though, it is like J was missing.

peaky with the review things, try to include something that makes you a bit different, thus making your application stand out. I included my great age and fatness. Maybe they do just put them in a bucket though.

Detective - very true!! I said to dh it's like ds has never not been here!

Cat - no words just hugs

Vq - seriously - you're not old and I'm sure you're not fat!! But everytime to refer to your age it makes me smile.

Yw - foo fighters stopped ds crying. Along with gamdamstyle or whatever the hell it is. The latter I struggled to accept!!

Today apart from venturing to the drs, I have not left the house. I am officially ill. This never, ever happens. I didn't even see my horse :(

So sorry for your loss cat sending hugs your way x

Ack to autocorrect. Precious not previous

Well, wee p squeezed out a poo. It was normal but plugged with a green ball of poo the consistency of wool. Very, very odd. The rest was pretty liquid and yellow like normal.

I have been giving her a few ml of cooled boiled water and did some massage today. Any idea how long this is likely to last?

Cat - I am so sorry about your little girl:(

Pass, im no expert, but that ball sounds like myconium to me, perhaps that was what was blocking him up? Now he's passed it, he might be ok. DS pooed all over me after he came out, when we were doing our skin to skin and that's exactly what it was like.Mention it to the HV anyway, just in case.

Horsey - good that you're keeping food down, hopefully it's a 24hour thing.

Peaky - there's a product review section on MN, and a topic, can't link cos I'm on my phone, but look at the talk section and you'll find it:)

glenda I am in exactly the same position as you. Ella isn't back to her birth weight. She's 3 wks today. We are back up the hosp on Sunday for yet another weight check. I don't understand the obsession with weight. E is pooing, weeing and appears happy and healthy. They keep telling me to feed her as often as I can. What the hell do they think I do! It's infuriating.

cat I'm so sorry to read your story. I echo what others have said, take the support.

DH is out tonight and I'm notoriously bad at going to bed when he's not here to tell me too. E is sleeping nicely so going to take the opportunity to get ready for bed. Hope everyone has a good night.

Oh Cat I'll give both DS's extra big cuddles tonight (the 10 year old still loves mummy cuddles...) the loss of a child should not be something any parent lives through. Totally understandable that you feel anxious until they have passed that 'milestone'.

YW Did you just put the witchazel on the pads? I've got some today, and the same effect as the lavender - it burns. FFS!

Why can I get no relief?! WHY!!!! I just want to be able to sit FFS! I sat at the dinner table this evening almost in tears because of the hard chair I was on! Nowhere is comfy! Not bed, not the sofa...! I just grin and bear it at the moment, but am at the end of my tether, as it isn't improving after a week! It hasn't got worse, but not better certainly!

I've got some tea tree oil too. That is my next tactic. Probably just burn too :(

VQ You are not far from the truth with the pain killers .

And thanks for the Lansinoh pads recommendation (?GT) they seem to be better than the Asda ones!

I decided to flog the nappies on facebook VQ

Have also resorted to getting Asdas own nappies, yet again after the Sainsburys ones let leaks through. Wouldn't mind if he was in them for long... they are leaking with one bloody wee! We got the smaller size, size 1? They seem a better snugger fit. Am hoping for better results! Given he is only little, it seemed to make sense to get the smallest size!

detective - I'm finding tesco nappies good. One or two leaky poos but to be fair, nothing could have contained those! Lidl nappies are the best imo, but they don't do newborn sizes.

Ta for the heads up! Will see how I get on with these!

I have a lot of nappies in this house!!!