Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Post-natal clubs

Join our Postnatal Clubs forum to find parenting advice for newborns.

November 2012 - hurry up to graduate, we're running out of November

999 replies

StuntNun · 26/11/2012 11:03

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1611078-November-2012-the-birthplosion-thanks-Peaky

Stats list: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1485512-November-2012-Stats-List

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
ShellyBobbs · 29/11/2012 12:58

YW I think the baby that is actually in the shell thing sells it, bless, the little thing is nearly asleep. Bet it was gutted when they finished blinding it with the flash and wanted their Swaddle Shell back Grin

Oooh, I'm sick of this bleeding now! 18 days on and it's still like a very heavy period, I had even leaked through my pad this morning grrrrrrrr.......

Detective I'd be interested to see recommended pads. I found the Asda ones much more absorbent than the Johnson and Johnson ones, I thought they were really shit. I may even make my own out of old towels yet as milk just squirts everywhere, but I can fill a 5oz bottle in under 10mins so I suppose there is a plus side to being like this (from one boob).

YellowWellies · 29/11/2012 13:01

Jonas just did his proper smile. Am melting!!!!

TheDetective · 29/11/2012 13:01

Oops forgot to say thanks for the pad recommendations! Will try the pampers first today! Might need bigger bras to accomodate though! We've not had any leaks from the Sainsburys nappies - yet!

Horsey, please don't waste another minute thinking about feeding. You have done everything you can. You have a thriving, happy and contented baby. This is important for your sanity to remember this!

Not all mums and babies get on with breastfeeding. I often see it, and usually it is more down to the baby, not the mum. Try again next time and you might get a different result, because every baby is different. Look to the future, not back to the past. :)

ShellyBobbs · 29/11/2012 13:02

I know Detective. The people who tell you to sleep when baby sleeps are the feckers that turn up on your doorstep at 9am and bombard you with all their visits!

Another thing that happened to me was no visitors on day one (apart from MIL but she was already here when Tommy was born) because they didn't want to intrude so soon. Then everyone came on days 4 & 5, and I mean for 2 full days the house was just full of people - this is when sleep deprivation is just getting to you! And I hadn't seen half of them for years the nosey old feckers

TheDetective · 29/11/2012 13:06

Visitors are still behaving here, thank god! I suspect next week will be the time they all appear! I think most people we know will check with us - late afternoon or early evening is the only good time for anyone to visit! Mornings are a write off! Then it's back to the feeding changing cycle! It's 2pm before I manage to shower and dress!

ShellyBobbs · 29/11/2012 13:10

Haha, I was really rude one day and just fucked off to bed with Tommy. I didn't say anything, just went Grin They had been here drinking brews for 3 hours though!

ShellyBobbs · 29/11/2012 13:11

Right, better express some milk for hubby tonight.....

MyLastDuchess · 29/11/2012 13:18

Hi all, I gave birth to DC2 on Monday at 13:15, 41+2. I had been starting to wonder if she would make it into the world before December!

We are going home from hospital today and I'm looking forward to sleeping in my own bed again :)

blonderthanred · 29/11/2012 14:44

Shelly can't he get his own from Tesco?

horseylady · 29/11/2012 14:55

I know any shaped nipples can feed, it was just one tiny part of a long list as to why never established bf. I think if he'd started and stopped there would be more reason to attempt. It won't happen. Vq. Dh said the same thing as you. We've got our routine now, were happy i was just surprised there was milk?! To be honest I never realised I had flat nipples until I tried to bf!!!

I looked after ds and a 14 week old baby today for two hours!! I lived!!!

I hated mw visits. anytime from 8-4. Then they tell you off for looking tired!! Yeah no shit!!! I could have had a lie in but no, I had to get up and dressed for you to come daily to see if my sonwas putting on enough weight to check us!! So glad that's over!!

horseylady · 29/11/2012 15:10

Oh and a lady in our baby group was to stop feeding her baby as much. He's ebf. We were told you couldn't over feed a bf baby!!! He'd gained too much. So she's been told feed on demand to feed at certain intervals!!

Perhaps they should removed all charts?! Look at the baby!

Titsalinabumsquash · 29/11/2012 15:27

Hi everyone, just had a brief read.

I finally managed some sleep last night and even a hair cut today! J has almost doubled in size over the past couple of days so hopefully it was a growth spurt.

As for poo, I didn't have time but when my waters broke I chucked the soggy pad at DP before squatting over the toilet and doing a giant loud fart as a contraction came. Grin I didn't care at that point tbh.

Passmethecrisps · 29/11/2012 16:15

horsey weird, I had the same thought. My boobs are the midwives dream it seems and would soak little P whenever we had a go - still didn't work for us. Didn't stop me from having a moment in the shower where I thought "should I?" I haven't cried since being honest with myself and giving up. That is enough to persuade me that we are moving in the right direction. I was completely unprepared though for what a massive emotional upheaval the whole thing is. My brain was fine with it, it was my heart which wept.

StuntNun · 29/11/2012 16:17

Welcome Duchess and congratulations!

It must be hard to come on here and hear about others bfing Horsey however lots of women can't breastfeed despite wanting to. My DS1 only latched on twice ever, lost a load of weight, the midwives were threatening to take him away and feed him formula, I was desperately trying to feed him EBM with a syringe in hospital. It just never worked out and I didn't have the support to get him to latch on and it all undoubtedly contributed to my PND. Fast forward to DS2 and he was relatively easy to breastfeed. Sometimes it just doesn't work out, sometimes it's easy.

OP posts:
Titsalinabumsquash · 29/11/2012 16:52

Gah! Just been pooed on everywhere by J, exploded out the nappy, took the nappy off and he peed on me so I changed him and me, picked him up and he vommed down me... Classy little guy, classy. Grin

Chunkychicken · 29/11/2012 16:58

The hat trick Tits Grin

DonnaDoon · 29/11/2012 17:00

Lol Tits

ValiumQueen · 29/11/2012 17:04

I appreciate it must be hard hearing about breastfeeding, but it is important to get it in perspective. I find it hard reading about the births, the natural ones especially, as I could not do that this time or last time, and that still saddens me and makes me feel less of a woman, less of a mother, but I know by looking at my older two, that the birth, and also the feeding are such short periods in their lives, and do not really matter in the grand scheme of things. So long as they are born safely, and fed, that is all that really matters. The birth and feeding bother us way more than it bothers them, and guilt, looking back with regret is only likely to impact negatively on them. It is today, and the future that matters. We cannot change the past. We need to look forward, as that is the way we are travelling. Nobody will ask about the birth or feeding method on the first day of school.

All of us who have graduated should take a moment to look at the little bundle of wonderfulness in our arms, and just count our blessings. It is easy to forget in the blur of sleep depravation, being pissed, shitted and puked on, sore nipples, sore fanjos, section scars, stretch marks, etc etc, that we would do it again in a heartbeat for this little scrap. Indeed we would gladly die for them. Our lives will never be the same again. There are also many who started this journey with us who did not graduate, and would give their right arm to swap places right now.

horseylady · 29/11/2012 17:13

Vq - wise words!! I feel the same when hearing about fast births too!!

He doesn't care, he knows no different!! I love him regardless of it, just like pass my head says it's fine my heart feels the guilt. I didn't think I'd feel this way. Then again I didn't think this level of love was possible either. You would literally die for them. How any if you have more than one is beyond me!! Then again I see why people have so many children as well!!

Passmethecrisps · 29/11/2012 17:15

Round of applause for vq. My DH gently told me that my issue was a 'first world problem'. He is right.

We cannot get ourselves in knots over healthy and happy babies.

Passmethecrisps · 29/11/2012 17:27

Oh and YW what age is J? I am so looking forward to smiles. I could have sworn I got one from P earlier but at 18 days old I think it was a gift of wind!

YellowWellies · 29/11/2012 17:30

He's 37 days since birth - 10 days since due date

blonderthanred · 29/11/2012 17:39

Hear hear VQ. That brought a tear to my eye. I have been thinking a lot about those who were on the early antenatal threads but whose journey ended early and how much they must be thinking at the moment of what might have been. Hopefully lots of them are now sporting new bumps and have lots of happy times to look forward to.

StuntNun · 29/11/2012 17:41

My mum went on a diet after having me and her milk dried up (which wasn't widely known about at the time) so I went on to doorstep cow's milk at 6 weeks old. Given that she worked two jobs for most of my childhood, made sacrifices so I could have music lessons, raised me to be an ethical and capable adult and did so many other things she for me, there is no possible discussion that starts, "If only you had EBF'd me for longer..."

P.S. Thanks Mum.

OP posts:
Passmethecrisps · 29/11/2012 17:49

Here you lot! Stop making me greet!

Right, can I ask for some advice for my sister? Her LO is 3 days older than P so is almost 3 weeks old. She says he downs bottles of milk in a heartbeat then voms everywhere before asking for more. She feels he eats too fast and she doesn't know how to slow him down. He is on newborn teats or variflow. She is keen to put him on hungry baby formula but her HV isn't keen. She says he brings up wind easily so doesn't think it is wind or reflux. Do any of you ladies have any ideas?