Feb 06 - All present and correct!

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Just for Flame

CAMERON, Birthdate 6th Jan, Due 28th Jan, Weight 5lbs 13oz, Born to Teuch, Baby no 1, Lives Inner Hebridean Island, Gas & air and morphine
PEYIA, Birthdate 23rd Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight 6lbs 12.5oz, Born to TicTac, Baby no 1, Lives Horwich, Lancs, Gas & air only
ALEXANDER, Birthdate 24th Jan, Due 4th Feb, Weight ??, Born to Yeahbut, Baby no 3, Lives Holland, Elective c-section
CAITLIN ERIN MONICA, Birthdate 25th Jan, Due 10th Feb, Weight 8lbs 10.5oz, Born to Womba1, Baby no 3 (1 stillborn), Lives Eastbourne, Elective c-section
MAISIE, Birthdate 26th Jan, Due 7th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5.5oz, Born to ellenrose, Baby no 3, Lives Bristol, Induction due to SPD
JESSICA HELEN, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 5lbs 11oz, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 1.
EMILY ROSE, Birthdate 30th Jan, Due 9th Feb, Weight 6lbs, Born to JuA, Baby no 2, Lives Chorley, Lancs, Elective c-section. Twin 2.
ELIZABETH GRACE, Birthdate 3rd Feb, Due 3rd Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Kando, Baby no 3, Lives Holland,
BOY, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 12th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to popmum, Baby no 2, Lives Broxbourne, Herts/Essex border,
LAUREN EMMA, Birthdate 6th Feb, Due 22nd Feb, Weight 6lbs 14oz, Born to Morgan, Baby no 2, Lives Dubai,
PHILIPPA ROSE, Birthdate 8th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 9lbs, Born to Tabs, Baby no 1, Lives North Herts, TENS and gas & air
LEWIS JAMES, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 31st Jan, Weight 9lbs 2oz, Born to Cuffyj1, Baby no 1, Lives Barnsley, emerg c-section
SETH PETER, Birthdate 9th Feb, Due 1st March, Weight 7lbs, Born to angedemarche (Jangus), Baby no 2, Lives NI, Elective c-secion
EVIE HARRIET, Birthdate 10th Feb, Due 29th Jan, Weight 9lbs, Born to Hotmama, Baby no 2, Lives Nottingham, emerg c-section
RHUARIDH GEORGE, Birthdate 11th Feb, Due 20th Feb, Weight ??, Born to MrsDoolittle, Baby no 2, Lives Newbury, Water birth
BEN, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 2nd Feb, Weight 8lbs 4oz, Born to 3K, Baby no 1, Lives Gravesend, Kent, c-sec after failure to dilate sufficiently
OSCAR, Birthdate 12th Feb, Due 13th Feb, Weight 9lbs 10oz, Born to Chloe55, Baby no 1, Lives West Yorkshire, Pethidine, epi & lots of stitches!
BOY, Birthdate 14th Feb, Due 6th Feb, Weight 8lbs 8oz, Born to 4blue1pink, Baby no 5, Lives ??,
ANYA OLIVE CATRIONA, Birthdate 20th Feb, Due 8th Feb, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Popadopalis, Baby no 1, Lives Bedford,
BRAM, Birthdate 21st Feb, Due 11th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Ixel, Baby no 2, Lives N London, c-sec
IMOGEN ROSAMOND, Birthdate 23rd Feb, Due 2nd March, Weight 7lbs 9oz, Born to Ags, Baby no 2, Lives Kent, Elective c-section
EMRYS JOHN, Birthdate 24th Feb, Due 24th Feb, Weight 8lbs 5oz, Born to Flamesparrow, Baby no 2, Lives Bournemouth, Home birth
BOY, Birthdate 26th Feb, Due 18th Feb, Weight 7lbs 13oz, Born to Jasnem, Baby no 3, Lives Waltham Abbey, Rapid labour, ventouse and episiotomy
SALLY ANIELA, Birthdate 28th Feb, Due 28th Feb, Weight 8lbs 13oz, Born to Thell, Baby no 1, Lives London, Water birth at home
NEVE, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 8lbs 11oz, Born to Frizbe, Baby no 2, Lives Ripley, Derbyshire, Water birth
ALFRED WILLIAM, Birthdate 4th March, Due 27th Feb, Weight 9lbs 15oz, Born to Helen38, Baby no 3, Lives Warwickshire,

Still missing 3 names - hope they've not been announced and I've missed them!

Nah, my method sucks Chloe. :( After 6 weeks of only having half sleep because of a little man in our bed or being attached to a nipple... I lost it last night . I realised I wasn't safe in the bed with him either for sleeping too soundly, or if I lost my temper with crying. Fed him, cried hysterically, left him with DH and ran downstairs (this was about 1am)... curled up on the sofa in tears, and woke at 5.45am to hear crying from upstairs (which is pretty much impossible normally, I think my nipples heard it first and the tingling woke me) - went back up to find DH sound asleep with a hungry baby crying in his arms . I guess I don't have to feel guilty for depriving DH of sleep on a work night!! He was sleeping in such a position that squishing DS would have been pretty much impossible, so I'm impressed with that - just worried how long he'd been crying for!!! Slightly miffed though.. he never sleeps that long if I'm up there!!!

I've forgotten everything else I wanted to say now . I'll be back later.

Jas... you dont count re exercise as you're so lithe anyway!

"lithe" is a much better way of saying it - I was going with "frustratingly thin"

I will admit to being naturally slim, but that's not the same as healthy. Sorry.

Flame - sorry you had such a rubbish night.

I've decided baby in bed with us isn't helping, too. He's been in with us pretty constantly from first night feed, but I don't sleep soundly when he's there. He does though, which is why I've done it...when I move him out, he wakes in an hour at the most (usually more like ten mins).I've discovered the last two nights that if I lie him on his side he does sleep for longer. He has been on his side in our bed, as that's how he lies to feed, and we just drop off. Am I taking a big risk doing this?

Wouldn't go as far as to say I've got a routine, but now Boy is settling quicker in the night, I'm coping better. No school run is helping too. I've arranged a day out in Legoland with all 3 next week. My mate and her husband will be there too (only 1 child) so it should be ok.

Sorry, can't help with periods. Bf each time. I know the first few can be irregular/ odd, but would def mention it to doc next week.

lol - I've never been very healthy

DS tends to sleep on his side during the day, and if I can convince him to lay on the right side in the night too (he can only be on his side where his arm is out, or he just rolls). I have a monitor with one of those alarm mat things, so I feel slightly more confident about doing it - I know they aren't a preventative, but I feel I'd be alerted to problems more quickly.

I don't know about periods either - My brain is all fried and I can't remember what happened with B.

Can I ask - does everyone give their ff babies water too? It seems most of you are and I am not, wondered if I should be doing?

Feeling very frustrated with feeding my 2 - they are all over the place especially at night. I am trying to keep them to feeding at the same time but they get out of synch all the time - and I don't know why. Also am struggling with how much to give them - if I give them more at bedtime will they sleep longer?? Maybe I need to speak to my health visiter. Breast feeding dd1 was so much easier cos I could just feed her when she wanted and it didn't matter if she fed for 5 mminutes or half an hour but if 1 takes 2oz and the other 6oz they will want their next feed at completley different times. Chloe I am not giving them water to drink? Should i be?? That would be even more bottles to wash and sterilise - I thought they only needed it if the weather was hot - sorry not much help!
Flame - sorry about the rough night - am sure he won't have been crying for long and he probably slept longer cos ho couldn't smell you. Lets face it - it is much easier to wake up if you can smell breakfast. :)

Chloe - I don't give ds water very often cos he doesn't like it so i think why bother. But my mum keeps going on at me to give him it. Its cooled boiled water they're meant to have and i gave him some yesterday which was still slightly warm and he took about 2oz which is more than ever before so it was either coincidence that he took it this time or he prefers it warm.

Yeah, my mum mentioned it but the hv/mw hasn't. I wondered if it was an older generation thing?

Ds had another bad night, i took him out in his pushchair at about 6pm and he went to sleep so left him then went out with him again about 7pm and he was still asleep when i got in so left him again and there he stayed til 10.30pm (slept thru 8pm feed) fed him, cuddled him, he went to sleep so put him in his cot (almost midnight by this time )

1am he starts screaming, got him out and cuddled him back to sleep put him down he woke straight up, i was so tired and ended up putting him in bed with us where he slept til 4.30ish. DH fed him :o we both tried more than once to put him down but he wasn't having any of it so by 5.30 i decided to try swaddling him, he went straight down and slept til 8.40. Not brilliant but am def gonna try it again from the start of bedtime.

Not tonight tho cos my mums having him :o looking forward to a good nights sleep (does that sound awful?)

I just want to curl up and sleep. I've just yelled at DD til I had a sore throat, and left a newborn to cry himself to sleep :( I was feeling so good this time yesterday morning, and its suddenly all gone wrong.

re Water - unless they are constipated, I think its only really needed during hot weather.

3k - would def like to meet up have to build up to driving to bluewater though, as can't stop anywhere if sal cries! think i have your email from babyshow arrangements, so will let you know.

sleeping on side - my hv said it's ok, provided you put something behind to push lower shoulder slightly forwards, so babe can't roll onto face.
sally sleeps on side all the time, but i don't worry cos she only ever rolls onto her back.

Do you have any family/friends you could ask to look after the kids for a few hours Flame? Sounds like you need to get your head down for an hour or two. Try not to get upset about leaving ds to cry himself to sleep - I have had to do that on occassions too as I have had times where I didn't trust myself to pick him up when I was really tired and upset. He will have forgotten about it when he wakes up

Jua - sorry things are so awkward for you at night - no advice for the ff babies I'm afraid, bf all three of mine.
Ixel - don't worry, I am having to run at 9pm at night on our eliptical (sp?) trainer as it is the only time I have when ds 1 & 2 are in bed and dh can take dd.
Chloe55 - I am doing the Race for Life but I have registered as a "Walker" which means you are not expected to run it and as you are separated from the runners means that people take babes in prams as well - that is how it works for the one in Bristol anyway. Despite the fact I am walking, I do still need to lose a ton of weight to be let out of the house in exercise gear, hence the desperate running

I've been worried about you all giving water now - it was me that mentioned it first. It was in relation to cuffys ds who I was suggesting may be constipated, though. flame is right - constipation or v hot weather are the only times it's useful.
Really hope I haven't given you all more to worry about. In future just remember that whatever I say it's coming from someone with no experience at all of ff.

hugs flame.

sounds like no babies like sleeping by themselves, and it's natural. not much consolation at the moment tho

Nope :( My mum is off work, but she is recovering from a cold, and I don't want to ask her - she keeps getting really bad colds and is worrying about it, so while she has time to rest and get healthy, I want to leave her to it. My friend has 5 of her own to deal with, one recovering from tonsils coming out, and B tends to turn into a whiney child when we go there and ends up being told off lots, so I don't want to put her through it.

I will talk to DH tonight, see if I can get the saturday morning in bed again - but this time with him actually keeping DD out of the room (she woke me last week)... maybe I could lock the bedroom door, and he'll just have to yell through it if DS needs me to feed him??

Thanks Ellenrose, and don't worry Jasnem - you just jogged my memory re the water - was meant to ask yesterday as mum keeps harping on about it.

Afternoon girls.

Doing a quick post whilst the dd's are napping, then ramming some food down my mouth and cleaning the bathroom before they wake - hopefully!

Dd2 had her check this week now 11.2 - put on a lb in a fortnight - hurray - so now relaxed about feeding - will say I'm actually enjoying bf - can't believe it!

Was getting smug about dd2's sleeping - had a feed in bed until she fell asleep then didn't have another feed until between 6 and 8 am. Today she decided to feed at 4,6 and 8 - so a bit knackered today esp as looking after both dd's.

There has been so much posting so I must catch up and have a read.

Re water - agree with the others if ff - don't need to give any additional water unless constipated or really hot - otherwise the lo's may cut down on feeds and they need the calories etc.

On a general point - ignore your mum's advice - cos it will prob be out of date esp re weaning and prob everything tbh.

Got dd2's jabs booked for next week - I cried more than dd1 for her first jabs - so hopefully this time I will be harder.

Re being fat and running etc. I have joined Weightwatchers this week as I want to lose the flab I gained whilst pregnant - and could have done with losing a couple of stones before I got pregnant - so hopefully will be wearing trousers before I go back to work next Jan. Thinking of doing the Race for Life in June - I did the London Marathon in 2000 - I am so fat and unfit!

Will now read the posts = although dd2 is now waking - lunch is going to be late then!

Word of advice to those with girls... always dress them in clothes that don't match - that way when they are 3 they won't throw a tantrum because they have "boo" hairbands to match their "pupple and boo" t-shirt, but have to wear pink socks because stupid mummy didn't realise that the socks have to be the same colour as the hairbands!!!!

Oh forgot about RFL - its fine to take a pram as long as its not held on a beach like round here. I tried to apply for our one, but apparantly its already closed to applicants :( I have wanted to for years but kept being pregnant, or getting married, or whatever it was the year between... I guess i'll try again next year!

Oooh, Chloe - Stick him in the sling and do the walk - it'll be like weight training,and you'll burn off more

Good idea Flame!

I was too scared to do RFL this time. My pre ds1 time was 22 minutes... I did one after ds1 was born and it took me 40 minutes, so I dont want to depress myself.
hotmama... wow! Marathon! I did a half marathon in 2002, and did feel like I could've carried on, but probably not the same distance again!!

Boy is now officially Leon Jason.