Postgraduate brookers - Brooking No Argument for happy, healthy and sleeping DCs..

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Scarlet, just read your post - what a horrible experience. Drink driving is disgusting, you're right. A friend of a friend died from it - killed the driver of the other car, lingered in a coma for a couple of weeks and then died himself. My friend was devastated, but kind of built him up into an angel, when it had been his own fault for getting behind that wheel, to say nothing of his poor victim. Horribly, though, he had an older brother who died from (I think) meningitis 2 or 3 years later, so their poor parents lost both their children. There was a little granddaughter, but comforting as I'm sure she is, it wouldn't make up for both your sons dying.

Hmm I came back from holiday feeling all refreshed and capable and its taken 8 hours for me to be back to three steps back feeling I can't cope with two let alone how dream copes with three. Naps are causing huge issues and I feel stressed as I'm pretty sure if f naps well he is more likely to sleep well at night but I can't get any consistency with naps when I've git DS1 to deal with.

Then DS1 gets parked in front of cbeebies as I can't leave him on the garden while I try to get DS2 to sleep. Argh tom must be better right?

Haha pet I read your post and thought 9lbs 8 isn't big and then realised you were referring to ds1, not 3!
scarlet he has gone for 3 weeks. He is with a mission team working with children and helping to build a church/ community hall etc. It will definatly be an experience!
Hv not my usual one so Shouldn't have to see her too often! D has been stuck to me all afternoon just to spite her I think:) he is feeding loads but it's very warm so am guessing he's thirsty. I have a load of washing on the line and DH is cooking tonight so I am going with the flow!

Hawthers welcome home! I imagine it might take a few days for F to get used to being back again? Sure he'll be napping like a good'un in no time!

Too I read something on MN about sterilising milk containers because of bacteria, but that other things (eg bowls when they're on solids) don't matter. I haven't sterilised DS's dummies for months. Just wash with hot water and fairy liquid occasionally. DS already feeds practically every 2 hours some days, seemingly to make up for sleeping longer at night, so not sure that would make a difference. I could start feeding him to sleep, but since he's learned not to need me I'd rather not. Though he does, of course, need the dummy. Hmm. Maybe just offering both sides at every feed will do the trick. Plus if I'm doing that, how will I then express? Surely there won't be much left?!

Scarlet that sounds like a horrendous experience. Being the first to get to him, and speaking at the inquest. :( But 9 pints ?!!! I can't believe people do that. Awful.

pet I would go with offering both sides first :)

You can't do right for doing wrong can you wants. First they say you need to feed him more, now he's put on 3 oz you need to feed him less

Pet he was an alcoholic. Although the inquest was pretty stressful for me, it was very interesting at the same time. It's incredible the detail that goes into a police investigation in a case like this. They could back up my statement by location and measurement of skidmarks, damage to both cars etc. Then of course you hear of the personal circumstances, what had been going on in his life and and the whole sorry tale comes together. He was actually drinking while driving. Completely and utterly stupid, but no doubt ill.

Wow it's a very serious thread today. All these sad stories. FWIW it's worth I also think drink driving is utterly disgusting and unnecessary. Both DH and I have a strictly zero alcohol policy when it comes to driving, it's simply not worth even the slightest risk. It's bad enough endangering yourself in that way (with all the subsequent consequences for your family) but to also endanger other road users who are completely innocent is reprehensible. Poor you Scarlet, that sounds like a harrowing experience. :(

Scary talk about nurseries too! I'm dreading sending little A to nursery :( I can't imagine something happening (and I just mean small things like falling over) and I'm not there to comfort her. Of course it's important for her to learn that she doesn't need me to be with her 24/7 and I need to learn that I don't need to be with her 24/7 as well! Still, I will be putting it off for as long as possible, whilst avidly pursuing my investment strategy of buying lots of lottery tickets

Thanks for the BB info! That makes sense. Scarlet your warning about flipping forward in the bouncer is all too easy to imagine! Given that the BB lasts until 2 years it sounds like a worthwhile investment. I'll have to start haunting ebay for one (although obviously not until Dream gets one, I don't want to risk bidding against a fellow No Brooker!)

Little A slept from 2.30 to 9.45 last night! Another 7 hour sleep! Utterly amazing, I'm even more in love with her than I was before! Considering I used to go to bed around midnight pre-baby, and wake up at 7.30 for work, it's like I'm back to the same amount of sleep as before! Of course it won't last, sigh, but it's a step in the right direction! Hopefully she'll just gradually start doing this more regularly. She does sleep before midnight as well, but at the moment there's no pattern to when she sleeps in the evening.

at Scream's investment policy. That is also the Too household investment policy. Yay for A sleeping heaps!

M howling in gym, gotta go.

Great sleeping, little A! Keep it up!

Too forgot to say I'll be using bottles for DS since he's ok with them.

I just offered him both sides for his previous feed (about 3.15pm) and put him down for a nap at ten to five, expecting him to wake within 40 minutes for his next feed. He's just had a 2 hour nap! To be fair he hadn't had a long nap so far today but even so... Hope he'll get enough now in his last feed to keep him going till about 4am (which is his current pattern).

Wants I think I'll follow your advice. :)

Quick Baby Bjorn chair question: surely after about 6 months a baby can just sit on the floor? Or in their high chair? What's the advantage of a bouncy chair after that? Genuine question from a rather dim first-time parent! :)

Pet they can sit on the floor / Hugh chair but when they are just learning to sit up it is still quite tiring for them, so something like the bb means they can relax and chill out (maybe even chillax ) without having to be laid flat in bed. So they can sleep in it or just watch the world go by.

Having said that we didn't have this bb for ds1 so he must have either sat up or laid flat? I think occasionally I used to use the pushchair if I thought he might want to recline without being 'put down for a nap'?

Ds1 is in bed singing 'nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey, goodbye' (you know, the bananarama song, don't know what it's called). Where the heck has he picked that up from?

high chair.

We haven't named our Stokke Hugh or anything

Btw, Dream what is a sniper?

Sniping is bidding in the last few seconds so nobody has a chance to outbid you. You can get software that will do this automatically for you

Yes, sniping using software is what I was up against. I tried sniping myself on one auction. Not a hope in hell, clearly automatic snipers going in. Then I used Gixen once too last night- the free version, I'm too tight to use the paid one and I don't buy enough to justify it. Plus it's SO annoying, I don' really agree with it, but everyone else does it. No human can react that quick- 5 bids in 4 seconds I think there was on the one I used Gixen for, so my bid went in with 2 seconds to go and was out-bid. P'eed off I was! Still, my BB bouncer will be here by Thursday. My sod-the-auction technique worked. I e-mailed a load of sellers with ones I'd take, about 5 or 6, asking if they'd put a BIN on and that I'd pay around £50, and a lovely bloke said yes, e-mailed me extra photos as he was worried as he ideally wanted a buyer to collect so he knew they'd be happy with the condition of the chair (looks perfect to me on the extra pics), text me to say it was going on (I asked if he would and messaged my number through eBay) and has already sent me the courier details on an email. Impressed. Yes, they will be sitting at around 6 months, but while DD was a champion sitter, and I think S will be too, B is so much weaker I can't see it for him. The 'norm' we look for is sitting for 90 seconds by 9 months. Plus I want to take mine out to baby groups etc so my second baby can sit and join in. So, away to e-bay you go scream, there's still a nice one up only a few months old. They're going for so much though that it's almost worth buying new as you'll clearly re-sell easily. If they are that good I want a second for the second twin I may buy new, but I wanted to have the toy too this time in case I ended up shelling out for that too. If it seems not worth it and the babies aren't fussed about the toy, I'd get a new one next time, but not if they like it and I have to pay extortionate amounts for the toy bar too!!

what a lot of writing about a BB bouncer....

Anyway, I'm feeling quite shocked as one of my best friends has just announced today she's split from her husband. She says its been coming a while (her youngest is nearly 14 months, her eldest 3) which I had no idea of. They don't argue, she just says they're too different. Talk about out of the blue.... It's got me strangely rattled. plus logistically, they can't afford for him to move out yet, they need to get out of their overdrafts, she needs to get more hours at work, they don't have a spare room-all sounds so awkward.

Hugh the high chair biscuits, love it . He must be Hugh from now on, as long as purple wouldn't be offended!

Wonder how purple is, and fishcake...

evening all.

hope the mastitis settles down quick ninja. :(

we had a couple of days of nothing in the potty during DS1's practice session, but tonight we had 5 wees in the space of less than an hour. :-O They were all technically in the potty - only 2 escapages due to poor willy tucking technique. :-D

he did have a lot to drink with his dinner, but that seems an awful lot of trips for a short time??

he wanted to sit on the potty almost the whole time, he is very determined to do it 'right in the potty like Pirate Pete!'

it's hard to tell how he'll get on when he actually keeps his new pants on for more than a minute and wanders about a bit...

Crumbs -loads of posts today!

Too, I'm another one who doesn't stay upstairs with their DC when they nap. She's just gone down to sleep, and I'm downstairs - have mopped the kitchen floor and am now going to get some work done! I did to begin with - but purely because she ate for so long that by that point I had to go to bed.

Wants, good for you! I couldn't bear to leave Iz to cry :(

I'm another one worrying about nursery. I'm in the lucky position that I won't have to go back full time - but I will need to go back at least a couple of days a week, probably at Christmas (if not before). To be honest, it's the thing I'm worrying about most at the moment, and I think about it every day and get a bit :( . I am a compulsive worrier.. I haven't even got round to looking at nurseries/child minders yet, but I was hoping to find a child minder - mainly from a cost perspective, because I have to pay a hefty amount to commute too :( Once I have more work locally/from home it'll be better (and I may well do by that point - we'll see), but at the moment it's all a bit :( inducing.

Scarlet, that sounds horrible, and it's no surprise you worry about DS as a result :( I've not been in the situation where anyone has driven off with Iz yet, so I can't say how worried I'd be.. and the only time she's been without me has been with DH. That thought worries me too - whenever she goes out without me I'm sure I'll have to keep myself Incredibly Busy to stop myself worrying.

Drink driving wise, I think it's utterly disgusting too. DH used to drink after a glass of wine, but to his credit he's a good driver and quite a big man, so there was no evident effect. However, over the past year or so whenever he's had anything to drink I've done the driving (and I don't drink), which makes me happier.

Scream, hurrah for A's brilliant sleeping! Iz tends to do a 5/6 hour stretch first thing in the evening, for which I am utterly grateful (getting to sleep between 8.30 and 10 usually - I try to aim for a 7.30/8pm bedtime but often doesn't work, and there's always cluster feeding). I tend to take an hour/hour and a half for myself (like now!), then follow her to bed. She then wakes up every hour and a half/two hours though :(

Busy couple of days ahead here - we start baby massage on Wed, and then off to South London on Thurs to meet up with some uni friends :) Haven't yet taken Iz into London - we'll have two trains and a tube to navigate, so hoping she'll behave herself!

Ninja, how're things, and how's the mastisis? :(

I think I may have it, mildly :( Last night I definitely had a fever and aches and shivers/sweats (definitely flu-like symptoms for me) - lasted most of the night. Definite pain in breast, but no red mark. This morning I felt a lot better, so have put off calling the doctors, though feeling a tad rubbish again this evening (though no where near as bad as before!). Will see how I feel tomorrow. I know from past experience that I'm not too good with antibiotics, so would like to avoid them if possible - but at the same time, I won't suffer for no reason! Can they diagnose mastisis and send out prescriptions over the phone do you know? My doctors is always VERY busy...

I hope it's not mastitis musical, apart from anything else it sounds as though you've made some nice plans for the next few days.

Sorry to hear some of you are stressing about nursery already.

I had my first evening out since DD with a friend last night. I managed 3 hours, it was lovely. I was driving so no wine unfortunately, but it was a nice change. I did miss DD though and she was just waking up for a feed when I got home so we had a nice cuddle.

Well, gold prize for B, slept all night. Dunces hat for S, up as usual, every 2-3 hours...

How lovely scarlet, I'm looking forward to being able to get the babies to settle... It'll be ages before i can go out though i reckon. Did you go for a child free meal??

How's the boob today musical? Hope its feeling a bit better again. The trials and tribulations of bf... Good luck with London! I've only been to London once, when i was 10. The mere thought frightens me a bit, I'd be hopeless at tubes and stuff. Fancy, quite happy to backpack around the world aged 18 but don't know our capital city

Dh has bought DD a playhouse for her birthday, I can't believe its less than 2 months until she's 2 now . I also can't believe its going to take around 8 hours to build! And that's if you don't mess up anywhere of course... All part of Operation Make Our House (& garden) Fun seeing as its harder to get out now :) .

hawthers I think getting back to 'normal' after a holiday is always hard. If its any consolation, DT2 has no more regular naps than DT1 yer his sleeping is really improving while DT1 is a complete menace so part of it has to be just your baby. I don't mean F in particular, just different babies.

Well to prove me totally wrong DS2 slept all night ds1 was up for half an hour though but because he is totally fixated on his daddy DH had to deal with it

musical I took DS2 into central london and back out on several trains and tubes and at every single set of steps (there were many) someone helped me with the pushchair up and down and were also really chatty and smiley. Restored my faith in humanity.

Sounds like a lovely night out Scarlet - and perfectly timed for a cuddle with dd when you got home .

Brooking for improvement of all sore boobages

Dream - well done to B! That's ace. At least if one will sleep through you've only one to contend with at night which must be a vast improvement? Brooking that S finds a bit of competitive sprit and won't be outdone by his brother

Just doing a round on that pop quiz app thing, and one of the artists was called Randy VanWarmer

Really?

Fnar fnar....

morning.

more potty practice this morning and another pee in the potty. he wants to just sit on it for ages though, even his most exciting pants aren't getting a look in. at least he's keen i guess!

think we've all got a cold again in this house, doesn't seem as bad as last time thankfully. just croaky throats and sniffles.

can any potty training veterans have a wee (no pun intended!) look at my post about it from last night? sorry to be me me me but i am interested in your opinions!

DH a bit half hearted about it and won't even look at the 'potty training boys' book to see what we're trying to do

garden looking good though...nearly there. at least we can play outside once the gates etc are up.

interesting name biscuits!

Jaggy DS used to produce an astounding number of wees in a short period of time sometimes when we were doing potty training (and not always in the potty )

Pants wise we did loads better bare bum at first. The introduction of pants = accidents at first and then he finally got the hang of it.

But if he's keen and doing well then go with it. I would be if DH wouldn't read the book though especially since he's around all day so should be helping a bit more. My DH reads s...l...o...w...l...y and i still made him read the book