Dec 08 Mums - still biffing on

[LadyThompson]

Yes, yes, it's a bit lame. I wanted to say: "Still fucking on!" but wary of causing offence....

I know 'biffing' is a bit PG Wodehouse, as well. You'll just have to humour me

Go to the time trial Kiwi, would love to come with you. What are you up to Friday? Should we have a mini meet up near you? Urbs I can still do tomorrow morning at Greenwich park will have another 6 year old with me so lots of boy fun. What time is good for you? Can anyone else come to Greenwich? In hindsight the Olympics was not a good time to be trying to catch up with people.

Oh & Hooray on the poo and good thinking leaving it until after DD born & DH home, if I'd had known how difficult it was going to be, TTing DS1 I'd have been quite happy to leave him in nappies until his 18th birthday!

Hope you get some meet ups sorted out Vag. The Olympics is a great time to be in London though, great atmosphere. DH and I went to watch the judo yesterday and we enjoyed it v much. We're now looking forward to the sailing tomorrow and we'll be taking DD with us.

Vag mini meet up sounds great! I'm in SW London though, how's that for you to get to?

Yay vag - would love to do tomorrow - is cutty sark at 10 any good? We have afternoon plans but would love a good chunk of time for boys to run about. Went for first time since it reopened yesterday and ds and dd loved it - had to drag them away on promise we'd be back. Will pm you my mobile

And am on Olympic park on Friday and sat if anyone else is. Kiwi am sorry to be missing you this avo and of time trial.

Perfect Urbs I'll see you at 10 @ CS. Will look out for your email. Do you have OP tickets? Kiwi I know you've told me before but where in SW are you. I'm in St Katherine Docks so easy to northern line.

I'm at stratford westfields, your right Nolda the vibe around London is fantastic, we went to the Swiss house & the danes have set up on the docks so lots of fun. There are loads of athletes & Olympic types wandering around westfields so it's fabulous. Also just noticed P.O.P having a sale so yipee!

Vag just FB-ed you xx

Wel jel of all this meet up chat. Have a lovely time though, and enjoy the various Olympic events you're going to.

BEans, you are being so strong, lots of love to you and your lovely dad.

I received a birth announcement via text yesterday morning (before some arsehole stole my phone), girl called X, weight, bit of info about how birth went, etc. I assumed it was from my friend Helen but that she'd changed her phone number as it didn't come up as her. Replied with general congratulations message. Anyway, saw on Fbook later an announcement from her DH about the birth of a boy, called Y, different weight, etc. So two people know have given birth on the same day, both texted me, but I only knew one was pregnant and now have no idea who texted me first. Can't now respond with "er, who is this?".

Kayz that is top news on DS2's poo. T will only poo on teh loo if he's desperate, he usually waits until bedtime and then fills two or three nappies. So you're not alone!

Off to New Forest camping this weekend with some girlfriends. SO excited, esp as it means I may get some sleep. I think mine and Kiwi's DCs are in league with each other. B is up all night, then both up for the day at 5. WHEN WILL THIS END? Am amazed you have the energy you do, Kiwi. Maybe it's the running.

Talking of which, I went to a physio yesterday about my dodgy pelvic floor. She said I had a "deficient vagina" and gave me 3 out of 5. I nearly punched her. Cow.

spot hopefully someone will post on FB soon! Maybe it is just a random you met at a toddler group once.

I am quite at olympics too really, I know the dcs would enjoy the atmosphere and stuff that you can just turn up to watch. bit far from here though!

Hello all,

I'm struggling to keep up at the mo.

Spot Can you check fb for birth announcement or mention of baby? Or reply with request for her postal address and hope it rings a bell.

Beans Am thinking about you and your dad. Lots of love to you and your family.

JJ It is a tricky one re Catholic not teaching contraception in schools. It don't see how not mentioning it helps anyone.

Lots to report from our weekend but will have to wait till I'm on the laptop. Gee it is hot in the south! It was baking. Thinking of lighting a fire tonight up here in the frozen north.

Evening ladies! So sorry to miss you, Vag, but DD2 had over 24hrs of vomming (we have really been punished with these things over past few months) so I have cleaned up a lot of sick. I was hoping to grab a meeting with you on Fri but now I have to go to my Mum's as my storage stuff is being moved as the removal company had a cancellation and it's cheaper for me to take it. It is just coincidence that it's moving near her - it was the cheapest I could find, anywhere! I have to return on Saturday as I am showing estate agents round DP's flat on but am back off to Mum's again early next week.

Anyway, that's all boring. Are you having a lovely trip? Did you whoop with joy in Waitrose? Am so disappointed to miss a little meet up. It's been too long!

Spot, "a deficient vagina"? What a cheek! What a hideous remark! I meant to say to you - going back a bit, do you want me to read your book? I know precious little about PND so maybe I wouldn't be a good person to read it but if you want a good general opinion from a former literary professional... So, come on, where are you moving to? And how is your DP coping at home? And how are you coping with him at home?

I say, KP, those porridge fingers sound nice (also easy to make for a cooking numbskull like me). I think they'd make good snacks for the girls. Did you ever get to the bottom of the business about your choc-scoffing neighbours?

Aaaah, Paris. It is crap for veggies though. However, before I met DP, I got taken there by a friend who was trying to convince me to become his girlfriend. He located two veggie, or predominantly veggie, restaurants - in Paris! Can't remember a lot about them, except one was hideously smoky. I love France but the worst meal I ever had was in Biarritz. A plate of iceberg lettuce and some bread and butter, served with a grimace. That was the veggie option, in its entirety!

Rubes, are your eyes all better? Holiday plans firmed up? I am around on Mon 13th still.

Kayz, I am pleased your DS2 managed to perform! Bless him. How long is your DH around for now?

Nolda, I meant to say - very lovely to hear things are better with your DH now. Hurrah for that. I guess all relationships ebb and flow. I must say it worries me sometimes, how (comparatively) detached I feel about DP.Maybe it's healthy. And I don't feel at all keen to get married. I think he would be devastated if he knew I felt like that. That all probably sounds worse than I mean it to.

JJ - how have your DH's partners reacted to his letter? Abortion is such a thorny topic. I would struggle to have one myself I must admit, find the whole notion pretty unpalatable and worrying if I am honest but hate to judge others who might find themselves in a really awful situation. And sad as I personally find terminations, I am glad they are available in a medically safe environment as the thought of people doing it themselves or going to an unlicensed person as in days of yore...DP is involved in a case which I obviously can't give (m)any details of but I will say that it involves a person with no qualifications to do so, performing this operation...Quite horrendous. Anyway, so what do you think you will do re: schools? Send S to the Catholic one but take them on about their sex education policies?

ZJ - I am glad to hear your sister's wedding went beautifully. I loved the smiley picture of little A you posted on FB the other week. Adorable.

I lost my notes for my big catch up so I have done this 'blind' and probably missed people. How are things, Beans?

I think I have cocked up for my August trip. All flights now seem really dear. I might have to do two in Sept instead, as Ryanair have got a sale on but only for Sep dates. I have to be extremely budget conscious and aim to spend no more than about £40 return on the flights for these little jollies.

Must try to go to bed.

Lady, the Hague is lovely this time of year.

Urbs will msg you back soon.

Had a lovely night out with two dear beloved and old friends. We all met when I first arrived here in London all those years ago in 1998. We went to the Skylounge at 'Doubletree by Hilton' (I find the naming of motels in this way quite bizzare), it had the most amazing view of Tower Bridge and the city. I can highly recommend for a nice place to meet up next time there is a London night out

DH is sorting out flights & visas

Oops accidental post, Anyhoo he is sorting stuff for Saudi, still sad he isn't coming to the Olympic football game with us, but if he wins this bid it will be very good. I might even get a pony, just joking, I keep saying to him, if he wins the bid can I get a pony.

Had a mental day at stratford westfields today, but managed to shop and see some friends & Mark Foster (yummers) & Robbie Savage (niet zo yummers). I also managed to completely embarrass myself by asking a very tall young man in an Australian Opals (the name of the Aussie basketball team) shirt if he was an Olympic basketballer...turns out he wasn't, and DH & our friends found it hysterically funny. So did the tall young man's friends.

Right I'm rambling now, so I'm orf to bed, I have family Urbane to meet in the mané

Sorry to have been rubbish keeping up. It's a fight for the iPad most of the time as laptop broken and everyone wants it. Alas no one apart from mummy allowed to use until 6pm, and then only ten mins each. M likes angry birds, t looks at hair care tutorials on YouTube and L looks up dogs on battersea website and suggests ones which would be suitable. Story of our house, except I am usually the angry bird.

Hope the meet up goes well. Loving the Olympics on tv. Mark Foster is gorgeous, but sadly not a ladies' man. Am developing a girl crush on Clare Balding as she is so enthusiastic and knowledgeable . Ah me.

Spot, how very rude. Am sure your fanny is most proficient. Did she have any suggestions to improve it, the rude bitch?

Right, swimming beckons. We were in pool for 2 hours yesterday. It went very quickly for the girls but nit alas for me.

Thinking of you lovely Beans.

Love to all.

Hi everyone. Sorry I've been so quiet - I've been reading and lurking, but haven't had a moment to catch up. DH working so very hard at the moment, he's rarely home before 10pm, but last night he was home at 7.30, which was lovely. He mowed the lawn and we had supper outside and it was smashing. Now look. Yuck weather. He's meant to be taking the littles camping at his parents' house tonight, but it's not going to happen, I suspect. A night off for me! Fingers crossed!

All these people going to see the Olympics. Am so jealous! AND I'm gutted not to be meeting up, Vag and Urbane! HAve a lovely time.

Onto Dad. I'm feeling rather a lot stronger having been to see his oncologist with him. It is, of course, terminal, but his lungs are completely in remission, which they all agree is very unusual with a Grade 4 Sarcoma, which Dad has. And the fact that he has a new tumour in his pelvis, rather than one of the 3 original ones re-activating is a good thing (weird though it sounds) as it means he can have more radiotherapy, as he couldn't have done if it had been in the same place as before. They are flummoxed by that as well. BUT it is a very aggressive tumour and is growing really fast and causing him an enormous amount of pain. He has managed to speak to the hospice and they are controlling it well. The radiotherapy will cause the tumour to inflame and swell before it (hopefully) shrinks, or at least stops growing, so his pain is going to get considerably worse before it loosens its hold on him.

If the radiotherapy works, he could have a few months without any further recurrences. So keeping our fingers crossed. If it doesn't work, he can't have any more chemo, but there is a new drug out there, which is a pill and although it hasn't been licenced over here yet, he can still get hold of it. It's not chemo, but is a variation thereof, and that, too, could give him a few more months. It's all about the months, isn't it???? Anyway, it was fairly positive and Dad and I had lunch together and giggled a lot and it was really rather wonderful.

On the subject of terminations etc, I had one back in my early twenties, and it was horrific, but the circumstances dictated that I should have one. It was a miserable time, but I admit, I was glad it was available to me. Now I have had children, I cannot imagine having an abortion, but at the time it was the right thing for me to do.

Spot - a "deficient vagina" - hilarious! You poor thing. Why is it deficient? Surely most women after a VB do a little wee on coughing, jumping or giggling helplessly. I mostly think I've finished a wee, wipe, and get a bit on my fingers, which is nasty!

And for those of you with early risers, I do feel for you horribly. I'm sure it'll pass, but until it does, it's horrific. I had it with these two for about 3 weeks when summer started when it started getting lighter in the mornings, but it has thankfully calmed down now. But Spot and Kiwi yours seems to go on year round. Just think, in 12 years we'll wish the buggers would get out of bed!!!

Right, onto breakfast. I am being lazy as hell today.

xxx

PS Mark Foster is dating Colin Jackson, Sybs - that is my best bit of Olympic gossip - it's a long term thing. Did anyone know?

xx

Really! Oh thank goodness I didn't ask for a photo of him and then gently place my hand on his buttocks like I'd been hoping to do.

Spot, I was just thinking about your recent diagnoses, surely it is your pelvic floor that is deficient, your vagina has nothing to do with retention and expulsion of urine?!?

Sybs I'm coming have texted you and will prob ring just as I'm leaving, but as long as I can get this lot moving should be there between 10 & 10.30.

Beans I can't help thinking it is bloody unfair that your dad has beaten all those cancers but is being blighted with this tumour. I'm glad you had a lovely lunch, and that he had you with him for the appointment.

Ooh beans, my Dh told me that gossip. I didn't believe him. Both gorgeous men! The appointment sounded quite positive especially the lungs being in remission.

LadyT My two have had 3 sickness bugs in the past month. I had to have a shower at 2am yesterday as J was sick in my hair sob

Vag (how apt, I'm talking to my own nethers). She said my pelvic floor was ropey anyway, but having spent half an hour with her finger inside me, getting me to cough and squeeze (was far more embarrassing than any pregnancy related gynae stuff) I guess she's saying it's all a bit to cock down there. .

BEans yes I know everyone lets out a bit of wee, but when i had to run after the boys the other day I had to change my pants and trousers, so it's quite extreme. .

Glad things are looking up a bit for your dad, despite the long-term prognosis. I bet your dad felt very supported by you being there with him.

Lady, I would love you to read it if you've got the time, but I realise you have so much going on so no pressure. If you really are up for it I'll email it over.

Sybs swimming for 2 hours is full on. You're a better woman than me. And the rude bitch has given me a sheet with a series of exercises on it. And a "goal" to reach before my next appt in 4 weeks. She's also made comments on my bowel movements. Such a liberty!

Sorry for all those with vomity children. It's just the worst kind of bug. At least when it's a virus there's no cleaning involved. Hope babies JB and Lady get better soon.

No baby news on FB re-the random text. Maybe it was a wrong number!

Am about to phone home insurance company now and, fingers crossed, they might pay for a new iphone handset. Had no idea they cost so much or I would have got specific phone insurance out.

afternoon all! Just back from volleyball. It was fun although DD1 lost interest after about 10 minutes and spend the rest of the time going to the loo or faffing or fidgeting or climbing around and annoying everyone. DH on his one morning off from the Olympics very nicely took them both home so I could actually watch some of it. Exciting match. But seriously, that girl cannot sit still for 2 minutes. Is anyone else's DC like that? I would never dream of taking her to cinema, for exmaple, she just does not have the attention span for it.

Beans - Colin J was dating him (Foster) some time ago, but not anymore. Has another partner tho. CJ is very much still in the closet. I worked with him some time ago and he sort of opened up a bit, but it's all a bit sad as his parents are still waiting for him to meet the right young lady and settle down. They are quite traditional Jamaicans and can't imagine they would be very happy with it.

LadyT I put a note through their door but nothing.. chocolate thieves! I am sort of hoping that one day I get a parcel to take in for them, so that I can refuse to hand it over until they buy me some very posh chocolate. And I glare at their front door in a total passive aggressive way. I'm sure the front door is TERRIFIED.

ps Spot My pelvic floor definitely isn't up to much either. It's fine running at a certain pace (easy) but when I start to push it it all goes to hell in a handcart. Did you get any advice/ exercises you can share?!?

Just a quick one from my phone. My email has a virus and if you get a message from me entitled Private Message, please do not open it. So sorry!

Oh latest on my falling out with sister: having exchanged messages and agreed to talk in person, she sent me a 4 page letter (as she left for holiday). Totally typical of her, to decide she wants to have her say and sod what I think/want. It's 4 pages of me me me me me me. With Stalinist quality revision of history. Barely slept last night thinking about it. All a bit miserable.

Oh Kiwi, horrid horrid. Are you going to write back, or just leave it? What did she say in her letter? Sometimes committing pen to paper can be a mistake as you can't take it back. BUT you write beautifully , so I'm sure you would be fantastically eloquent if you did write.

So sorry about grim sicknesses. All ok here. DH has taken girls camping, so am home alone for the night - in my own home. How weird?? I have emptied and put the bins out, hoovered, changed sheets and generally tidied. Am now drinking rather a lot of vino. Don't know why, the girls will be home by 7am, as DH needs to race to work!! He'll be knackered tomorrow, but the girls were gorgeously excited! They got into their trackie bums and jumpers after the bath so they could go and gather wood when they arrived. Pru is totally exhausted, although I tried to give her a snooze, but she wasn't having it. Could be interesting. But not my problem. Heaven!

Just saw canoeing silver and gold. Brilliant!

Gutted my gossip was so out of date. I thought I knew a secret! Any other goss about various love lives??

hi ladies :)
Just a little hello from me because I need to get to my bed. We're off on holiday tomorrow - a week in Cornwall :) but we're spending tomorrow night in Portishead to break the journey. All packed I think - and the house is still full of boxes for the move.
I'm a little worried because my boobs are really sore and I'm exhausted. My period is not due for another week but I stupidly googled pregnany with copper coil and it seems the world and his wife have ended up preggas despite having a coil I think it's actually 99.something effective so it's very unlikely, but I'm slightly concerned all the same!
spot I feel your pain (or rather dampness) with the pelvic floor. I also ended up with change of pants and trousers last week after doing a few star jumps with dd1 . I saw a physio last year who used feaky tools up my vag to measure the muscle strength, and after 6 months of exercises she retested the strength to find that it was......slightly worse than when I started! Rubbish. I think your rude bitch would find my vagina rather deficient! BTW, I'm more than happy to look at your PND book. I doubt I'll be online at all until we're home from holiday but feel free to email/PM me and I'll pick it up once we're back.
We haven't seen deids for a while. Are you lurking?
Can I ask the runners a question? How do you run in hot weather? generally when I run my breathing is fine (which I assume means that my fitness level has increased) and my legs are fine, it tends to be energy levels or a stitch that stop me. I've worked out that my energy is much lower when I've not had much to eat, so can work round that. But when I run in the heat it just makes my head want to explode! I only managed 5k today because the sun was beating down on me. I did take a water bottle but it just didn't cool my beetroot head! - I'm hoping it won't be hot when it's the GNR, but if it is, how do I not get too hot?