April 2012 - Feeding, Facebook and finally summer!!

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Apologies for the rubbish thread title - thought I'd cobble something together though!

Thaleia I think I do live near you based on previous posts, so would love to meet for a coffee or tea some time & just be someone who can listen. (I can get to Balham or Clapham easily on the bus).

You really aren't alone in having these doubts & anxieties, and talking to a GP won't necessarily just mean happy pills - a friend of mine got referred to CBT sessions which are very hands-on in terms of giving practical help to deal with anxieties day to day. Certainly worth asking about & I do hope there are similar options out there for you. And would be very happy to meet! X

I'm on sertraline and was told I couldn't bf (have been told since that's not true which is why I keep beating myself up about stopping). I was shocked it happened to me and really didn't want to take pills but they have really helped. I want to come off them as I feel better but it's been recommend by my mental health team I carry on until October half term as my ds1 starts school in sept and that could set me back as its another change to deal with. (I have a mental health team as I also have an anxiety disorder and had horrible things happen to me in my past for which I start counselling on Friday so don't worry that you will).

If you don't mind me asking where is home? Will be lovely for you to see your family. Please make sure you take care of yourself and I agree, 20 mins in the am is not enough.

Thaleia don't worry about the rolling - E hasn't done it for a few weeks and hasn't done back to front yet. It's pretty normal according to my "mommy" friends. It's almost like once they've figured that skill out they move on to figuring out new things. That's my theory anyway!!

DD rolled from back to front on Sunday at my best friends house, with an audience :). It seems she really is a diva!! She doesn't do it when it's just ne and her!!

If any of you London ladies want to meet sonewhere central, I'd be up for that. I can get in to London Bridge/Waterloo in 20 mins on the train :)

thaliea I forgot to say, a has to have physio for his neck and the physio said they don't expect babies to roll until 6 months, before that it's classed as early.

DD was up half the night for the first time in weeks. And today she's exactly four months old. REALLY hope this isn't regression. She's always been bang on time though, from arriving on her due date.

Jambalaya - Same here. I had a really tough day, and she hardly slept in the day and then I thought at least we'll get a good chunk of sleep tonight but no - constantly hopping between my bed and her basket (which she has nearly outgrown) and feeding all the time. She was very wriggly even when asleep. Then there was a huge car crash down the road about 12.30 which DH had to go out and make sure the emergency services had got to (like no one else heard it ffs!). At least DS slept through til nearly 7.

Thalea I really feel for you - you need to ask for some help because I think your feelings are becoming overwhelming. Lots of people have PND and there is no shame in it, but you deserve to feel better. All the worries you have are what I felt with my DS - that every little thing was potentially a major issue and my thoughts would go down the track of the worst case scenario. As long as he is lively has plenty of wet/dirty nappies in the day then he's not starving.

Thaleia Remember that PND is an illness. You'd allow yourself to get any other illness sorted by the doctor, and this should be no different. Would your DH advocate mending a broken leg with a sticking plaster? I would hope not. Don't be ashamed to see the GP again. R is only a baby once and you deserve to enjoy this time

Where did you hear that about BF babies? Not something I'd heard before...

Oh, and you'll find that these babies learn a new skill and show it off for a bit, then usually stop and go 'right, I've done that, bored of it now' and learn to do something else, then start doing it again a few days/weeks later.

Hi,
tough night here too ... he's all over the place with timings, feeding at 7, 9, 12.30, 4.30 before happily waking up at 6.30 (and not hungry). I just don't know how and when to sleep.

bear thanks. I think I made a massive mistake re bf. R fell on both, weight and length from 50th to 9th. I just hope he's able to make up for it and that I haven't damaged him long term = his brain development. I googled growth develoment all morning and try to find a link between bfeeding and length but all I see is re weight.

I don't know what to do, I'd like to give him bottles now but is this the right thing to do? And because there really is a problem, so it's not only in my head with him falling in the percentiles, the worst case scenarios might really be my reality and not just nothing :(. I just wished I wouldn't be so afraid all the time. Almost everything can be fixed: weight gain - McD, length: growth hormons. I just hope he'll be happy and won't blame me for what's going to be wrong in his life.

hug thanks - yes, I'll wait and see & put him on his tummy a lot to see if he does it again. I tried to practice with him but I'm not sure if this actually turns him off. And home is Clapham, also very easy for me to come to either Victoria or Waterloo.

I'd really like to take up on your offers to meet up once we're back as I think the few people I meet (even fewer I like) will have fizzed out over the time. Some are going back to work in October/ November.

fliss - I've heard that a couple of times now from all kind of people, MW, GP, peadi. If you only have x supply and it's not enough for your baby, it'll be able to survive on it. That's the reason I'm always asked about his sleeping habits and activity level. Babies which are starved sleep lots and don't do much to save the energy. Whatever kcl goes in gets to the brain first.

And re his fall in percentiles for lengths, I'm now worried that because I don't give him enough, he's not getting longer.

Harry is now rolling over all the way, he doesn't stay still!!! Sleep has gone put of the window, there isn't enough room in his crib so he's flaying all over the place, trying to roll onto his front. He did that one night, and slept until 5am. Had to order a travel cot, arrives today.

All our furniture has been shipped to Dubai, so living with the bare min.

We are on our own as DH has already moved to Dubai, so I'm stuck with a very neurotic dog, an over loving puss cat and a whingy baby, who still like to have his three 20 mins cries per day. The joys of moving!! Roll on 25th September!! hubby coming back twice before then I think.

Tis also possible I have arthritis, get the results next week.

Also gonna try for another baby, as it took 2.5 yrs for Harry to arrive. Said I'd never do it again, absoulutely petrified! Hated pregnancy and birth.

Thaleia; big hug xxx

Thaleia I don't think you've harmed R by BF. DS himself has dropped 30 centiles and it's never occurred to me to worry (other than a brief episode one morning) and the HV was fine with it too. I think as you've already effectively got a PND diagnosis (albeit mild if GP said it was up to you re meds) then these concerns are the manifestation of that. 9th centile is perfectly normal and healthy It's rare to not have enough milk, and I'll be seeing what I can find about BF babies not crying if they're starving and just making do, as I'd have expected one of the fabulous BF counsellors on the BF/FF board or Kellymom to have mentioned this previously. I wonder if these HCPs are using out of date or just plain wrong info, or if I've missed something - I'd hate for DS to be hungry and not telling me but just 'making do'

Please think about seeing your GP again sooner rather than later, you deserve to enjoy these baby times and they're over too quickly

thaleia my girl cries when she is hungry and seems satisfied when I've bf. So have to agree with fliss. Plus I think it contains more calories than formula and full of goodness! :-) keep with it if U can x o (hugs)

had a hard night last, L does have a little cold. She had no formula and no solid food! :( plus woke up 10, 1230, 230am 4am oh and then 5am. Then slept till 830. Not really after bf just want comfort!
Finger crossed for a better night tonight.......
She loved the banana and eate loads of it. Still no joy with the bottle tried hip organic. Thanks for the advice on fb. X

thaleia I'm in Cardiff so a long way away but if it would help you to have a meet up next time dh has a week off (not next week as we have plans) I'll ask if he minds me coming to London for the day with ds2 as he can do the school runs, shouldn't take too long on the train. I am all too familiar with the negative thoughts and please step away from google and go to your gp, if you don't want to go on your own I will make arrangements so I can come with you as its so important and it doesn't sound like you have much of a support network xx

I'm up feeding Emily??!!! First time in months so wondering if it's sleep regression (4mths a wk ago), Wonder Week (18wks Fri-but she's already doing lots of the things she should be doing with this Event & had an unsettled period 2wks ago) or teething. She did cry during her afternoon sleep.....tried for 20 mins to settle her without feeding, but it was the only thing that worked. Hhhmm. Typically; I'd stayed up late & had a glass of wine, so will feel really crappy Tom. Haven't been to sleep yet!

Anyone else finding their LO is very clingy? Emily cries if I leave the room when her dad is holding her. She immediately calms if I take her back. Went for a walk last night & she cried most of the time I was gone. Her daddy will have her lots next week as I'm Bridesmaid for my sister & I've got lots of appointments! I'm a bit worried....

Thaleia; really think your anxiety could be caused by PND. You've honestly no need to feel so guilty & worried all the time. Raphael sounds absolutely perfectly normal. And it's down to you-you should bs very proud of yourself. You're doing a great job & the only person suffering is yourself, because of how you're feeling which is a shame. You should be able to enjoy this time, it's so short. Plse speak to your GP & tell them honestly how you're feeling. You'll probably feel a weight has been lifted when you do this.

Morning all! Hope you've all had good nights. Jelly - it's the curse of wine - had it happen to me too! Thaleia there's some good advice on here. Be gentle with yourself, lovely.

Off to France for 9 days today!! So excited! I used to live there & am taking DH & DS to the town I lived in, then meeting the grandparents in a cottage we've rented. So relaxing... (hopefully)

Hoping the little one copes with lots of driving & warmer weather - he's not used to sunshine yet! I'll also be bf-ing in a whole new country, which is quite exciting

Have a lovely day all.

Oh have a lovely time henrietta. I'm meeting a mumsnetter next week when I go down to minehead I'm excited and nervous at the same time :).

Thanks for your kind words. We had the night from hell, all 3 of us.
Raphael came every 1.5hrs or so. I tried to feed him, he wasn't interested, gave him a dummy which helped for an hour so he had 3hrs in between. DH thinks because of my state of mind, my milk isn't good enough so decided to give him formula. He didn't take anything and I ended up "feeding" him to calm and before he was ready to go to bed again.

I said to my husband that this is what everybody is talking about: babies wake up and don't go to sleep although not hungry. He was wide awake and in play mood at 1am. At least he believes me now as he saw that he just wouldn't take the bottle. Some progress!

It was clear to me that this would happen sooner or later as I pick him up immediately after he stirs that his dad can sleep. Unfortunately, if he doesn't want to eat and go back, there is terror in the house.

Spend the evening and morning with my greatest enemy: Google. I know that weight issues can be fixed: formula and later McD but length, length is a problem. There are lots illnesses which can cause this, dwarfism, celiac disease, hormone lack, thyroid. The thing is: it's a waiting game - is he just a slow grower and will have a spurt "tomorrow" and all is well again or not. I need to discuss with the GP and see what he says, so made an appointment for tomorrow morning.

Do you think because he's on the 9th for weight, this is the reason he's on the 9th for weight to? He had the same fall 75 - 9 on both lines?

I think he's on the 9th because that's a perfectly normal place to be.

You need to tell your DH that your 'state of mind' has bugger all to do with the quality of your milk, and that FF isn't going to solve this! At the GP today please, please use the appt to discuss yourself because really, from the sounds of it, R is just fine.

I must say we had quite a good night, L just woke up at 330am and 545am. When to bed at 845 and I managed to give her a bottle of cow and gate at 10pm when she was sleepy.

Dh think im better at doing the bottle, she refused it point blank with him, and takes it a little better from me, maybe coz I breast feed her.

Banana also worked well, but nappy was too good this morning lol x

hi ladies, I've been such a lurker on this thread and it's been such a help and encouragement to me, so I hope you don't mind me joining - better late than never eh?
I already have ds who's 7, but our little girl naomi was born on the 30th of April- cs baby due to health issues. She was 6lb 14 at birth and was 15lb 3 last week, so is growing nicely- plus she sleeps now which helps!
I'm really grateful for this second chance to enjoy motherhood as I was a single parent to my ds, and circumstances dictated that I went back to work when he was still v young- I feel like he and I both missed out on a lot.
Shan't witter on too much in my first post, but thanks for having me, and huge thanks for sharing... its been a huge help.

Hi dizzy. My ds2 and ds1 are both 30th April 4yrs 10mins between them so snap!

I want to get ds2 weighed next week, think at the rate he's growing he will be a good substitute for a turkey at Xmas.

Hey Dizzy, good to have you along!

Had DD weighed yesterday at 5mo, she's a petite 14lb 8oz and keeping to her line. She's such a squeally smiley bundle of loveliness!

Harry now in travel cot & sleeping on his front, sleeping until 3am, yay :-)