October 2011 chattering, eating and on the move!

[strawberrypenguin]

New thread!

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We x posted scheh I've put a note on fb page so hopefully everyone should find us!

Hey ladies! Marking my place.

The girls have a bottle in the morning, one in the evening and one more in the day (that they take in dribs and drabs). I really wouldn't worry about what they should be doing and let your baby lead you (within reason). The girls eat really well and just don't want as much milk as before.

Scheh if your concerned I would either, gradually decrease the amount of milk in each bottle or gradually increase the time between feeds / snacks / meals so c learns to go for a bit longer. It's trial and error though, just do what feels right to you x

Was lovely to see the girls yesterday. L, M and little s are just adorable and I'm kidnapping christopher to come and entertain the girls (and me) - he is just brilliant and so lovely!

oh god scheh not to make you even more stressed pissed but research suggests that those who dont wean at 6 months are more at risk of coeliac disease

it is soooo confusing with all the conflicting advice!

i tend to read everything and then make my mind up from that.

this is roughly eva's food/milk

morning 8oz formula- 3oz in with one baby weetabix ot scrambled eggs

lunch leftover meat& veg puree, or sometimes half a cheese sandwich
sometimes a ella's kitchen pouch (if i havent anything in/prepared anything)

dinner- one pot type casserole/spag bol/ chicken & veg/ fish & veg etc
plus 8oz milk - but she never drinks much more than 4oz so i stick it into cold water straight away and give it to her before bed.

she will have water and sometimes i will give her a little bit less food and make it up with pureed fruit.

i use to give the twins loads of fruit, but have been a bit crap doing it with eva.

tried giving her a banana to gum, but she wont. she likes cucumber though.

twins love fruit and as yet havent had chocolate, so they think its a treat. they've had 1 1/2 kiwis each and a orange each today. got pineapple in for tomorrow and they usually have half a banana each for a snack most days.

forgot to say she has another 8oz with lunch.

glad the scottish meet up was fun- not at all.

bbl. off to catch up on last thread.

Is it not that the store of iron that baby had build up in womb is almost gone by 6 months, hence the need to start eating 'food'. I dunno if a baby could go a year on just milk with the occasion bit of food. Surely there would be very little growth/development? It is all so conflicting though sassy, your best to clue yourself up and decide from there yourself.
sch what's your recipe for rice pudding?! Nom nom nom....

We had turkey meatballs in tomato sauce with pasta. Was very good if I say so myself! Then S had 1/2 banana and I had chocolate nothing

fuzzzy my mum is a bit of a wierdo hippy. I was exclusively bf until 1! Not sure how common it is. But yes, you're right about iron stores, I remember reading that. Irons easy as its in lots of veg, peas, broccoli, kidney beans, spinach...

I used one from the guardian website. It didn't really work as went too stodgy, bit meant it makes good finger food.

Mmmmmm...rice pudding. You're making me hungry!

Got home fro work today find DH in a fould mood. Apparently M had been crying most of the day, had managed to pull a plant off the window sill into the playpen and hadn't slept all day!

Obv with his leg right now, he couldn't take M for a walk, or carry him upstairs to see if he's settle in his bed...but his DM is right next door and she would have taken M out for a walk if he'd asked. Grrrrrrr! So after dinner I took M out for a walk around the block and he had a doze.

More to catch up on I'm sure...amnesia from last thread

there is a lady on my twins thread, who had a bit of a hippy upbringing. her mum just breast fed until she was 1 and she is coeliac but her twin sister isnt.

i google EVERYTHING! especially if there is conflicting advice. i read the WHO (World health organisation) report on exclusive breast feeding when twins where newborns as it was quite the fuss at the time. and its mostly entirely geared towards making sure third world mothers give their babies breast milk to prevent infection, give best nutrients etc. it says something along the lines of for western mothers/ children it wont be as vital, as they are more sanitary and have better diets but its still best for them too.

but if you hear some militant mothers speak on some forums, you're a bad mum who's poisoning/hurting/risking your baby if you dont. i dont really like to read a professional expert advice someone who wrote a book i like to look for evidence from studies as well.

the controlled crying / leaving them to cry it out,. is another case in point. if you go on sleep threads they go bonkers at you for doing this, yet i found a few studies that say the detrimental effects were actually found in russian orphanges were children are left constantly.

no detrimental effects in terms of 1 or 3 bedtimes while you learn them to settle. in fact 1 study said they cry less in a cio scenerio than in a cc scenerio where they get upset over and over and over.

ive had a nurse and a midwife ask me if my twins are identical??? and i use to teach btec national level 3 health and social care - including nurse cadets at college and they scare the shit out of me at how useless/no common sense etc. so i have a very healthy disrespect for a lot of 'information'.

hv told me off on 1 st visit to see eva at home cos she was laying on the couch. apparently they dont advise it cos of sids. old couches equal fumes etc. it was a BRAND NEW COUCH. the whole house is brand new. a child could tell you that just by looking.

(don't know if that was clear on last post, but I was agreeing with you sassy, not telling you to go clue yourself up ). Just read it back to myself! But I agree with everything you just said. To a point I think to myself, she is my baby and I'll do what I want, when I want to. She has made it through 8 1/2 months so far, so I must be doing something right!!

Mostly marking my place. I fell off the last thread because I couldn't keep up. I'll try and do better with this one!

Marking place too! Hi lemmings all ok?

awh fuzzy i took it actually how you intended it. x

for me then fuzzy that i made my post sound like i was getting at you.
i do loads of thiings badly dont get me wrong. me and perfect are a long way apart. in fact i was thinking that it might be a good idea for some daft brave souls to bare all a bit on here to each other, for those that are struggling/thinking they are doing a rubbish job etc and also to help each other do less or give tips on how to make thigs easier.

ican go first......but dont leave me dangling

i dont bath my babies/kids every night (infact i think - wtf is that about!!!)
ive sent them to bed now bathed (2 x a week) but i forgot to brush their teeth.

if sleepsuits / pj's are not washed i make do with tights t-shirts jumpers etc.

i dont wash the babies ever. only at bath times. they get wetwiped all day
this is since eva, as twins would knock over top tail bowl. i myself stopped using soap on my face unless in shower or bath years a go and use facial wipes daily as they are less drying to my skin, so figured its the same thing.

ive only just in last few months started to dress them daily, as i go nowhere who cares!

ive given eva ella's kitchen pouches more times then i gave twins combined as im lazy/less fanatical/more busy.

ive had one of them leak wee in night in my bed (not much) when co sleeping as newborns, forgot, then remembered when i go to bed and been too tired to change bed, so stuck a towel over it.

god i can think of loads of rubbish things or normal if you're confident enough to admit it.

the tv is on ALL day. i keep trying to switch it off but.........its so much easier. its not always on childrens programmes, sometimes i put music channels on so we can dance. sometimes i watch news american sitcoms

who's next?

Marking my place!

But, so that sassy isn't left hanging, I'll add some imperfect things I do/did too...

TV is on here a lot too - DH will put on kids programmes but I figure she doesn't have much of a clue yet so I'll switch it to what I want to watch.

I've slept on sick and wee in the bed.

When she was tiny I was so hung up on keeping a record of when she fed and for how long I wouldn't feed her till I had my iPod beside me so I could record it on the app I had...even if this meant leaving her screaming whimpering until I searched high and low for it. (DH hated this, I think it was the only thing in my life I could control so became a leetle obsessed!)

If her spoon goes on the floor while she's eating I'll pick it up, lick it clean and carry on (only my floor! Not in a cafe.). I'll also use the same spoon for pudding as her main course, just licking off the leftovers inbetween!

Hmm...wondering if I'll be invited to another meet up...

Thought you were all a bit quiet then realised there was a new thread which took me ages to find (as am a bit techno dizzy).

Sassy you do make me snort sometimes

I have slept on sick too, P's and my own - my own when I am drunk (don't know if that counts)

P always drops her toys on the floor, at home I don't clean them otherwise it would never stop. When she was small I gave her a paper cut across her forehead. DH banged her head putting her in the car seat in the car on another occasion too. Good job she seems to be robust!

Took P to Baby Reflexology today, all the other babies were lovely and quiet and P was yelling and making noises and going stiff (which she does when she is excited). Honestly she is bloody bonkers!

Oh my god, I'm laughing at these!!

Yes, 5 20 second rule here to with spoons and dummy
She's had a few bumps on the head and I trapped her fingers in the buggy the other day
I'm sure there are more but my minds blank just now...

Man, you've only beet at for an afternoon and you're already at nearly twenty posts! Just marking my place and will try and catch up tomorrow. Hope all well

I've noticed some post natal threads only have a few posts a day... We must chat faaaaaar to much

hi all just marking my place on new thread but haven't read it as still need to catch up with the old one

sadly this thread will go like them in a year or so time. my twin one has. people start working, have more children get a life :)

i used to wash toys/playgyms etc once a week with my pfb. i dont wash the toys at all and only wash playmats if they get sick or spills on them.

god, you should see the filthy stuff she puts in her mouth at playgroup. ok, maybe not filthy, but imagine how many little hands have been there before. i have to just close my mind to it.

ive not done anything to eva yet but i did put boiling hot beans into jacob's mouth once. he sat there with his mouth wide open screaming while dp quickly scooped them out. we were at a breakfast buffet and i tried them first from the edge and then scooped them up from the middle (i presume) i cried very guilty tears.

i was changing jacob's bum as a newborn, lifted his legs up to wipe off the poo from underneath and when i put his legs back down his whole face and head were soaking wet. i couldnt understand it. i was very puzzled and about to look up at the ceiling before it dawned on me. the poor thing had even got some in his mouth and eyes. i cried then too. i was very hormonal in my defence! and extremely tired.

Aww sassy!! Good story to embarrass J with when older. Like I plan to with S when I tell her of the time she got her poo in her mouth . Frantic call to NHS 24 for that one!

I worry about being pfb with DS as I dettol spray the floor, but then remember I do it as I regularly scoop his food back onto his tray

we have a sick threshold for changing the bed, I also had quite a high threshold for my clothes in the first few months.

I have now started using my sleeve for DD's nose. As we are out of cold season I don't carry tissues and couldn't be bothered to go inside to get some.

sch you said there are two schools of thought but 90% of people just do something in between at a rate that works mostly on practical terms.

someone at babygroup complained that their DC was back to waking twice a night. I helpfully pointed out that it would be considered a great night here. he was less than every two hours last night which didn't even register with us other than it was a bit worse than normal, but not a bad night.

in my defense, at that baby group a couple of mothers have thanked me for being honest about DS's sleep and the fact DD was also a bad sleeper. Sometimes people do surounded by those only voicing opinion/stories about the good ones and then they feel like their babies sleep is a poor reflection on them.

erm ive done a frantic call to nhs direct too. forgot to wash off thrush cream on my nipples and then breat fed isobel- cried then too.

think i will stop posting now before one of you decides to ring ss!

at least i cried about them all i suppose.