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She's 11.5 weeks.. Dr google agrees that chocolate and bad wind are linked. Better start limiting it I guess and give up on life being any fun at all.

Sht!!! No way pomme*, I'll have to too, for dt2... My HV says that diet is the least likely factor though, as she had a severely colicky child, under a paediatrician who said the diet was an unlikely cause. The lactation consultant also mentioned diet, but said you'd have to be having absolutely masses, like really masses of dairy for it to be an issue and she wouldn't exclude anything hastily...

The most fun I have is DD's fun music group... and the odd hot shower not accompanied by howling...

Oo showers with no screaming or toddler falling off toilet issues are amazing. Mind you then the silence worries me too! My fav things are when I take dd on our walks or for one that includes dd2 when dd1 and I play with her and her jungle mat thing that she loves.

Still feeding, although I am multi tasking and searching for cheap blackout children's curtains too!

I think I eat enough chocolate on some days for it to be masses of diary..

Hello! I lost you all again and I have missed you all too! I was at the wedding last weekend and was so hectic getting ready for all that and so on. It was great though!

Slings I currently have a moby I am about to return to the group, I borrowed it from, a ring sling that hurts my shoulder, a mei tai that is great for an older baby. My absolute fave is the , only had it about 10 days and I am converted so quick and easy to sling on whereas the moby took longer and I struggled to get the tightness right. So would definitely recommend it!
There is an issue with 'crotch dangling' with slings where there hips and everything are not supported, I don't know too much about it though.

Too glad to see your back in the sack ;) and you too Pomme for me it signified getting back to normal a bit. Although DH is not 'averse to another' right now! And I think I am brewing up for a period as I have had a bit of spotting like teeny bit, but I guess my body is up to something and I had af return very soon with DD.

I like the more sleeping that goes on, compared to when I was last around, you might not have noticed an improvement y'all but it seems it. :)

Bathing hmm, well I never had a routine of bath and bed etc as DD has sensitive skin, and Dd usually hops in the shower with us anyway, the baby has a wash down with warm water and cotton wool and then a bath less often.

The baby is sort of getting into a routine of falling asleep at 22.30 and the waking to feed and back to sleep until 8ish and then awake a bit and then asleep and repeat through the day. So good as no middle of the night partying with him wide awake!

Making dietary changes is kind of a last minute resort, as everything else like latches, tt.etc needs to be checked first, but you could cut out dairy for a short while and see if it makes a difference, as cow's milk protein intolerance isn't very rare...

Dream someone I spoke to had a theory that the twin that is on top is fussier as it is used to the heart beat, whereas the lower lying twin isn't and is more relaxed. Does this apply to you?

Meme I remember you :) Mythical it is nice to meet you unless your a NCer?
I hope everyone has a good night tonight :)

Ahem. Me too probably. Today I ate a whole packet of giant buttons (a share size pack) 6 mini Thorntons chocolate brownie things (delicious for anyone who's not tried them), milk on cereal, a glass of milk later, a chocolate biscuit at playgroup... Not to mention crisps and other junk food too. And i wonder why I still look pg?!

Yes purple (& how lovely to see you :) ) the fussy one was on top/ higher and nearer to my heart! He's refluxy too though, but also loves chest frogging more than his brother.

I'm not back in the sack... Gah. Another job for me to do ;-) There is no way enough sleep in this house for wasting any precious sleep time with that!!!

Dream don't worry about sack action it will happen in it own time, second time I am much more laid back and think its just a few months, which will pass in no time, a view that really helps with the sleep deprivation I have to say. But is also used to placate a more eager DH!

Oh and Dream junk food is so easy, I was having a moan as I was just STARVING and was just eating, hungry, eating all day and then fretting as I am still fat! I have the split abdominals (not too bad) so worry about exercising :/

evening all.

DS2 snuffling and farting away in his crib, can see us ending up steaming him in the bathroom later. oh, spoke too soon he's making a sad wee squeak cos he can't breathe right. more milk required apparently.

missed you purple!

we are now trying boots nappy rash spray in between steroid cream. it was too horrible rubbing cream into his wee sore bum. definitely makes him squirm less.

DH was at first when he found me greeting during a nappy change yesterday, but has been extra nice to me since then. he confessed earlier this evening that he was too scared to do DS2's bum when it was this sore!

think we might be up and down a bit here with the wee guy's cold...zzz

Yay! Welcome back Purple - missed you!

Erm, not much to report here. DH is not working tomorrow and has changed TWO (count 'em) nappies since getting home from work! . I feel in danger of forgetting what to do....

We had a chat about bedroom activity. DH says he wouldn't do anything with DS2 in the room and it is rare that he is home in time to do anything other than shovel his dinner in and get straight to bed ready for another early start, it doesn't look as if things will be resuming imminently here. Maybe we'll get an evening where we have time or a bit of a diversion before bedtime? I'm too tired to care too much though

To be fair, I think we wouldn't be getting jiggy (how can my phone not know that word ) all that often even if we had no children as DH is so knackered all the time from work. I'm sure normal service will resume one day....

I have to ask , Purple, what's an NCer?

I also think I eat enough chocolate to constitute 'a lot' of dairy . Keep trying to cut down, and sometimes can go, ooooh, maybe 15 minutes when I'm asleep without any naughty snacks .

Will look at that carrier Purple - sounds like you're having the same thing as me with the moby.

Musical hope you're enjoying your first full on night shift

Myth lovely to see you over here m'dear

Meme I remember you too - congratulations . Hope all is well

Close carrier looks nice purple and easier to use than the moby! Although when she demonstrates the nursing position, the baby's head looks an awful lot higher than her boob? have you tried that one? Logistically I can't see how, if DS was in that hammock sort of position, his head would be anywhere near my boob?

I'm quite keen on the idea of a sling to feed in as I find it heavy and uncomfortable to support DS for 15 mins in any one position when we're out, so I thought a sling might help with that?

Hey all you brookers. Congratulations to musical sounds like you has a good sneeze birth and welcome to the night shift.

All okish over here. Sleep is getting a little better. F gets throuh to 3am most nights but then tends to wake every 2 hours. Going to try to stretch him out to something more human tonight.

Big news is that we are about to start potty training DS1 which strikes fear into my heart....tom is day one so am expecting it to go badly! One question though, he is back in nursery on Monday who say they won't carry on with potty training until he has done a week at home but all the info I have is that you should never to back to nappies. So do I fib (much nicer word than lie) or just tell them how it is?

Hi Hawthers

Sounds as though F is doing well with his sleep . Good luck with stretching out the two hour bits.

That sounds a bit rubbish by your nursery IMO re the potty training? Our nursery just said to send loads and loads of pants and trousers and see what happened so I literally sent about 20 pairs of pants and all of his trousers (he never needed anything like that amount but better to be prepared - I was a girl guide ).

What days does he go to nursery? What If you worked full time - how would you ever get a week done at home?

I don't know what to suggest about what to tell them - but you're right they generally advise once you stop nappies to just make the break (unless it's going terribly and you need to leave potty training to come back to it at a later date). How old is DS1? Are you starting now because he wants to? (we waited and waited for Ds1 to 'want to' and just decided we were going to see how it went went he got to about 3 or 3.1 as he seemed completely not bothered by the idea at all and I didn't think he was ever going to do this mythical 'no more nappies please mummy' thing.

When we did DS1 I can't remember entirely how it went I've blocked out this memory but I know we had spells over the weekend where I couldn't believe how many times one boy could wee on the floor. We had a birthday party late on the Sunday afternoon and we did put a nappy on for that but earlier on the Sunday he'd seemed to start getting the hang of it. Then he was back at nursery on the Monday (avec many many pants). We had a birthday party that Monday evening too and he said he didn't want a nappy for that so I bravely bravely went with it, and he was really good and came and told me etc when he needed the loo (thank goodness - I was really about soft play so soon into potty training but he was so adamant he didn't want a nappy....). Then we had many ups and downs and good days and bad before he'd got it nailed.

Good luck though

How are the other potty trainees doing? Pomme were you PTing? And someone else too? Jaggy perhaps?

F did an emergency poo so not quite got the 2 hour thing ah well.

Good point about the ft working. He is 2.9 and no sign of the mythical no more pants please but he did get very excited about.his new peppa pig pants.and even did several wees on the new potty this evening. He is at nursery Monday and Wednesday this week so not ideal but it has to be done sometime right?

we've postponed it biscuits as we're going a very long drive on holiday and i don't think i could cope with wee stops and accidents when we're away for over a week! I've been reading "potty training boys" (you know how i love a book ) which seems interesting. DS1 getting a bit better at letting us know he's pooed so hopefully by end of July we'll be ready to go.

good luck hawthers!

I'm joining the baby chest frog club, wee DS2 has been struggling with his cold so he's been sleeping peacefully on me for the last hour and a bit. :) I've enjoyed the cuddles really. and sniffing his little head I'm going to have to wake him up for a nappy change though.

We abandoned or for now!

I definitely jinxed it - worse night so far. Hourly screaming fits from a and dd1 wake up at half five. Dh in a right huff. Hope everyone else did better!

Or is pt!

Oh Pomme we've had the same night! How do these babies know??? All was ok until 1:20 when he woke as per usual for a nappy and feed and the he's woken every 20 mins or less since then . DH also, erm, at his wits end (spotted him slightly begging DS2 to go to sleep ). Poor ds2 must have been so uncomfortable but we just haven't been able to settle him . Both DH and I even more l knackered than we were before. I thought the night before was 'bad', but man oh man!

There is a teeny bit of me that thinks it's 'fair' that DH has had to deal with a bit of difficulty too but mainly I just know that DH was so tired before we even started last night that he'll be worse than useless today

Jaggy - ds2 had a cold at about 3/4 weeks and I slightly enjoyed his little chest frog sleeps (in moderation) and smelling his little head

Sorry to hear the potty training has been postponed, but it sounds v sensible Jaggy with a big journey. Worth trying in case he'd skipped delightedly into pants and never looked back but not worth making a long journey even harder! And Pomme Dd is still young no? Again worth trying in case she'd sailed through but I don't see the point in being up to your elbows in wet pants for months - may as well wait and see if she's ready.

I have a FB friend who started PTing her DS just before he was 2 and was moaning then that her dd had been dry day and night by 2 and she couldn't see why it was taking DS so long. That was in Jan / Feb I think and she is still 4 mths later not there with him and we have to endure get regular updates as to if he's left the house without a nappy or had an accident at some inopportune moment. I can't help but think if he's not ready she could have saved herself a lot of washing and hassle'. My ds1 didn't exactly sail through it, and although I thought it took us a while, he was still ready to leave the house in pants within a few days so although it took 2 (poss more) months for him to stop having fairly regular accidents (maybe 3-5 a week) he wasn't having several a day like my friend seems to be dealing with. He was good enough that we never considered going back to nappies once we'd gone into pants, it just took a whole to eliminate those last accidents. And who knows, maybe 2-3 mths after we started he might have done the 'no more nappies' thing?

I'm still dreading potty training ds2 though - not one of my parenting highlights so far....

Purple I've just been reading reviews of the closer carrier and most people love it, but one or two say that the weight of the baby on the front makes it ride up / pull your clothes up at the back? Looking at the design of it that looks like it could be an issue - is it?

Cheers

Tag team babies last night...

Pain au chocolate and a brownie for me

hawthers if you've made half decent progress and don't want him back in a nappy I'd fib & feel terribly guilty about it

Back in the olden days one of my cousins could only go to play school if they were potty trained. They weren't. My auntie just sent him in pants and expressed great shock that he had an accident every single time

I wouldn't go that far, but what Dream says sounds fair? They must be able to deal with the odd accident at nursery? Day nurseries are a different kettle of fish to the play school type things when we were little.