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Thread 2.

Okay...it seems that to bath the twins you need 2 people. Can only echo Biscuits in suggesting that you and DH or you and a parent do it, not you trying to do it alone. I'm not very good at working out toddlers ages/abilities - was thinking DD would be able to sit in the bath and play with something while you/DH bathed a twin next to her - not put both twins in the bath at once. Won't work in a deep, hotter, bath, though...am trying to think up a way you can go in the bath too to carry on enjoying baths with babies, but am being distracted by waking-up noises coming from the pram. Back in a mo!

Ok. This scenario assumes that a) the twins will be entertained by DH for 20 mins or so and b) DH is actually home.

Dream runs bath and gets in it with DD. DH entertains twins.

DD gets out of bath and Dream dries and dresses her. Then adds more cold water to make bath right temp for babies. Dream gets back in bath and DH hands her one twin. Can DD play in the bathroom or 'help' wash twins? How much supervision does she need? Dream passes first twin back to DH and receives second twin. DH dries and dresses first twin, puts in bouncy chair while taking twin 2 from Dream so she can get out of the bath and dry off. DH dresses twin 2, and you all come out of the bathroom holding hands and smiling like TV people.

Oh, and maybe ditch the glass shower panel? It'll need to go if you're ever going to have 3 in the bath at once, even if that day is not for another 6-8 months.

DH has just described P-shaped baths to me and now I feel thick.

P shaped bath

Basically is a bit wider where the shower is

That could have legs there Too - as you say it'd need at least 2 of you. Or if you didn't want to be in the cooler water for the twins' baths you could get out with dd pop a dressing gown on and then bath the twins from the side. Either one at a time or you and DH do one each concurrently.

The water will have cooled down from when dd gets in so might be the right temp for the twins by the time she gets out. And since they're held in the bath rather than sitting, being a little deeper would be ok, or you could let a little water out.

And as for supervision etc for a 19-20 mth old, embarrassingly I can't remember what they're like . She'd maybe be able to play in the bathroom (as obv there'll be someone in there with her) or 'help' getting things etc. (of course Dream would know what's required here, it being her dd 'n all that!). I guess it depends on the child in question as to how much help they'd be or whether their help would be too much of a hindrance and actually make it too much more difficult iyswim

Very impressed with Too's brainwave for bathing twins. That sounds like a very good idea if Dream's DH is there to co operate.

We also have a P shaped bath. Our shower screen is fixed also so we also only have access to the end of the bath. I reckon it will be fine if your DD did share with the twins eventually, she can go in the shower end and you can just get her to move up when you need to wash her.

Today has been good. Mum surprised me by coming over again so we have had yet another day of me not being alone with 2 DC! We managed a short walk to a nearby shop. DS was so proud of his baby sister in her pram, he wanted to push so it took quite a while, but we managed to get back before the rain came.
DS at nursery tomorrow morning but it'll just be the 3 of us in the afternoon.

Yay for another good day Scarlet - and yah for a surprise visit from your mum . But good luck tomorrow especially in the afternoon.

Agree re the fixed shower screen - you can just move the relevant child to the accessible end in turns. Surely half the fun will be clambering over each other

DS1 has been a PITA challenging today. He seems really tired for some reason so is just sulking about everything (eg because he dropped his teaspoon on the floor ) and refuses to entertain himself* so when I've been feeding ds2 (which has been a lot today) he just flops about being bored and annoying . That's on top of a spotty, itchy, grumpy, velcro-baby DS2.

Ds1 is sulking at the moment because I suggested he might want to play with his own toys rather than dismantling ds2's playmat. Gah! Roll on bedtime!

• I appreciate that I'm lucky to have a DS old enough to entertain himself some of the time - I guess I've got kind of used to feeding without him leaning on ds2 etc

Roll on bedtime except I have to bath ds2 between now and then Bleh!

All this chat of baths has prodded me to bath my own baby - and can I say that bathing one infant currently requires two adults and one anxiously supervising dog in this house? Go Dream! Go Biscuits!

Excellent thoughts there re glass shower screen. I was getting a wee bit smash-happy there!

Scarlet, yay for your mum! And DS must have looked adorable pushing the pram!

Biscuits, hope DS1 has cheered up now and is in bed sleeping soundly. What time is bedtime?

DS1 is indeed in bed - bedtime is usually about 7:30 ish. Ditched the bath in the end as I couldn't get DS2 to let me put him down anywhere. DS1 will have to wait until tomorrow. DS2 already had his bath earlier (a nice oatmeal bath to help with his spots).

Just need to get DS2 to do something other than be cuddled and I might actually get some tea. He's perfectly fine as long as I'm holding him, so I feel a bit mean trying to put him down but I do need to cook at some point, and get some tea for DH if he ever comes home.

Okay, am trying not to hope too hard, but...M is asleep in pram.

Go on M - show us how it's done.........

(And then come down here and explain it in one syllable words to E please)

(Although I will give him a little leeway for being poorly sick)

Hello brookers. Thanks for the kind thoughts.

In exciting news f did 8-5 last night unfortunately have no idea what we did differently to achieve that and he tends to be on a one good night to four rubbish nights ratio so tonight will be shit i'm sure!

Also anyone know how to get rid of foxes? They have decimated and shat all over my lovely little garden and don't know how to get them to go away seriously considering the purchase of a bugle though

Wow F and M are on fire sleep wise! This is the way forward ladies!!

Now come on E - I'll give you until the end of the chicken pox and then I want you a fully paid up member of team sleep. Got it?

Foxes - no idea

We had a cat that kept pooing in our garden at our old house and we got one of those ultra sonic cat deterrent things like this. Is there an equivalent thing for foxes?

Now can someone explain how I've put on another's half a stone, yet my watch and ring feel looser?

Ominous grunting noises coming from pram...

OK, have done something a bit stupid. Thought would cheer DH up...one thing led to another...and only realised 20 seconds too late that I never filled that Pill prescription. I'm probably covered seeing as M is only 9 weeks old and ebf, right? counts months on fingers and works out that it would be a late Jan baby

Fox repellers or this website has some fox advice

Eeeek Too

I don't want to panic you but I'm pretty sure I've been having a period - see my references to bleeding last week - still going and oh so much like a light period .

However, I'm sure that you, like the majority of normal people, are pretty safe.

What would you think if it was though?.........

I am pretty though if I am back in the world of periods - its like mother nature is taunting me with my fertility and laughing at me. I mean I never had odd period or ov probs when we were ttc for so long but for AF to be back in town so soon just seems like she's poking fun at me. Although it is kind of nice to just think 'oh, AF, whatever.....'

Too

Well, would be a bit and scared, but we do want at least one more so it wouldn't be the end of the world. It would just be a bit soon. Very soon. And I would be finishing mat leave officially on 30 Nov, spending the entire month of Dec on annual leave, working for maybe 2 weeks and then going off again mid-Jan. That actually sounds good! I really didn't want one this soon, though!

Can you take map when bf??

Ah we bought 2 fox repellers from that website you linked Biscuits. They worked for us temporarily, but 1 year on for some reason the fox now likes to use them as his toilet. Every evening he runs through our garden several times and at least one of those times stops to cock his leg up against ine of them So we're back to square 1 .

Hawthers I've heard from several people that if a man pees round the perimeter of the garden foxes will stay away. We're not able to try that out as our garden is too huge, DH would need to fill a couple of buckets. But it might be worth a try if you have a normal sized garden?

Scarlet surely there's a potty training strategy for ds1 right there? Imagine explaining that to the neighbours though.....