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Hi all. I had just got D to sleep and the postman shoved a pile of letters through the letterbox rather loudly! Wide awake! I am finding the daytime really hard work at the moment. D just wants to be on the boob all the time and gets so hysterical if I try and delay it( I barely get 1 and a half hours between feeds) the times that D spends off the boob and calm are few and far between:(. He has also started to be sick a lot after feeding!

Oh god dd1 won't leave me alone today, 'mummy what you doing?' is on repeat every 20 seconds. No nap for her and A has only had one half an hour nap since waking at 6.15.

How come being a mum is so looked down upon in our society?? Ive had high powered jobs and been in some tricky situations and all of them were a stroll in the park compared to this!

Me too, me too, I want to Shred! Wed sounds fine, Scream. I started Shredding at 6 weeks post-partum after DD1 and managed 12 days of it and I was fine apart from some pelvic floor issues during star jumps, but they went away pretty quickly, but I hadn't had a CS. So if it starts hurting, stop! It has two levels per 10 day section - watch Anita for the easier exercises or Natalie for the harder ones. I'm going to start with Anita's ones and see how I get on! It is only 20 mins but you have to factor in the time to get ready beforehand - don't know about you, but it always takes me ages to find trainers, sports bra, hair bobble. Oh, and you will definitely need a good sports bra! There's lots of jumping or running on the spot. I hope mine fits still. It's a 32F, I think, so it should. Oh, you also need hand weights. The DVD doesn't tell you how heavy you should go for. I used a couple of DH's 1.25 kg weights, which were a pain because they were the round kind to put on a bar, not the kind for holding in your hand. Water bottles would also do, though. I think my arms are actually stronger now than they have been for a long time because of carrying M around all the time, or lugging the car seat or the pram. Fishcake, have you Shredded before? I ran out of motivation a couple of days into Level 2 last time because I hit the 2ww and convinced myself I would damage the tiny baby if I continued. I was actually pg but I'm sure at 3 or 4 weeks pg I couldn't have hurt her!

I'm up for a careful diet too, Scream! Ie, no eating crap, but not cutting calories to unsafe levels for bf. I've been reading up on paleo diets recently and I'm going to cut down on carbs but still eat plenty of good fats, protein, fruit, veg and dairy. Smoked salmon and scrambled eggs here I come! Okay, so by the 19th of July we will be Shredded and slimmed and v v healthy! This is good timing because DH just reminded me we're going to a wedding in September full of his friends who haven't seen me in ages and I want to look good. Oh, and we're going to have a christening-type party in Aug for M so ditto.

Is anyone else starting to think about christenings? We're not going to do the religious ceremony because it seems a bit hypocritical for us. DH is an atheist and I'm sort of on the fence. We did get married in a church but I felt v v guilty about not feeling more religious. Luckily the Church of Scotland only cares about you paying up and doesn't ask any awkward questions about your beliefs! My grandparents are Baha'i and in the Baha'i faith you don't join until you're 15 and can make up your own mind, which makes sense to me. If M wants to become a Christian in later life she can. Anyway, I digress. MIL was very keen on a christening so we decided to have a party that will be sort of like a christening, inviting all the family and friends, and DH or I will make a short speech/toast thanking everyone for coming and asking them to raise their glasses to Maia. We're going to hire the village hall because we have lots of relatives and the house isn't big or tidy enough. Now I have to actually hire it and get on with invites and stuff!

Pomme, my hat is off to everyone coping with a toddler and a baby. You are all amazing! I have much more respect for you than I do for high-powered businesswomen. It's much harder to be patient with a toddler/baby than it is with people in the workplace - and if you do lose your temper you don't worry about scarring your colleagues for life! Or making them cry. And they can generally look after themselves a bit better, even if some people men pout or tantrum like toddlers at times.

Wants, I frequently get a lot less than an hour and a half between feeds. I think the best thing to do is go with the flow and not stress about it!

I wonder if the short gaps, in my case, are partly to do with breast size? Mine are particularly small, and while I'm clearly making enough milk (DD put on plenty of weight at her last weigh in) I wonder if it's to do with the amount I can store iyswim? Obviously she can keep nursing for more milk if the breast is empty, but I presume the speed of production is considerably less?

Hurrah for the good night Fishcake! I had a few good nights with DD in her basket a week or so ago (and sleeping for 4-5 hour stretches a couple of times!), but after a growth spurt it hasn't been the same :( DH has a ridiculously long day today, so let DD in with me to ensure we all slept enough, but will be more strict as of tonight!

Too, we've been thinking about christenings - or not, as the case may be. As neither of us are religious I think getting Isabelle christened would be hypocritical for us too, so we won't. However, I do like having a party dedicated to her! Quite tempted to have a Humanist Naming Ceremony - the humanist (non-religious) version of a christening. I think you can nominate Oddparents too, which is so much more appropriate for everyone we know . We're thinking of doing something later in the summer (if there is any summer), and doing it as a party at home to show off our new house too!

I may join a healthy eating kick for 30 days Scream! Won't be shredding though - that looks far too scary for me

Pomme, DD is struggling to nap today too :( Think she's just dozed off on my lap, but wouldn't sleep in the sling earlier (something that normally sends her off no trouble). I have no idea why motherhood is looked down upon - it's so much hard work. And I'm thinking that with just one child, so I can't even imagine the trickiness of dealing with two..!

May I ask the collective wisdom of the postgrad brookers: Any idea roughly when babies begin to self soothe? (or are successful?). I'm guessing the thumb sucking is one of the factors that helps with this, so it has to be when they've found their hands? When I put DD to sleep in her basket she's very noisy, and often upsets herself enough to be sick - but I want to give her the chance to self soothe a bit before jumping up to do it myself!

It's become Triple Whammy Friday on the TTC thread! You are very welcome to join us for celebratory Shloer!

Dumbledore, I am a Christian, but belong to a Baptist church and believe that people should only be baptised when they decide that want to follow Jesus, so we had a dedication for DS. Is that something that you might prefer rather than a christening. I found this about similar services in the Church of England: www.mybabycelebration.co.uk/Thanksgiving-service.html?set=yes

Yay Bartlet, yay! Congratulations! So pleased for you, and a ttc hat trick, too! Thanks for the link - will have a look when I've changed M's v loud nappy.

musical - I have big boobs and a fed pretty much hourly until pretty much recently (actually shes doing it today again). Don't brink boob size has much to do with it.

Yay for positive pee sticks!

Ahh, fair enough Pomme! Not so much about boob size, more about hungry baby's stomach sizes?

Too, ah, very loud nappies... I'm actually very thankful for them as it's a nice warning alarm - we've had very few leaks (touch wood) of that kind as a result..!

Tripe Whammy Day is wonderful :)

Congrats to those with the hat trick BFPs!
music I am also baptist like bartlet so we will have a dedication in the church at some point and invite family and friends.
We are just going with the feeding flow but I feel guilty for not getting stuff like washing and cleaning done.
too the DS's are most impressed with the big 'windy' noises that D's tiny bottom makes.:)

current task here is to try and get DS2 fed and happy before his big brother wakes up. also have craploads of washing to sort out, might have to put the poor wee guy back in the sling for that. he's already slept through toddler group in it today.

another here with not small boobs and an equally hungry wee baby!
did anyone else's baby have weird nappies after their immunisations? R has had odd looking darker brown/green ones since last night. he doesn't seem especially bothered mind you.

today is just running away from me here.

we aren't getting either boy christened. i haven't been to church since i left home and DH's family don't go at all. it's sort of a shame, but it didn't seem right to do it and I'm not sure DH would have been keen anyway.

I think the only thing M is learning from tummy time is that the louder she howls the faster I'll pick her up again.

Me too with craploads of washing, Jaggy! On second load of the day and 4 more waiting to be done.

And, in sharp contrast to Bartlet, I have just got a BFN and I'm happy! I was a bit worried after that incident a few weeks back so I got DH to stop for a pg test on his way home. Phew! Was so not ready for another.

I seemed to have missed part of the christening chat somehow. We won't get our baby christened. DH isn't at all religious, I had an adult baptism but then stopped going so my plan is to allow our child to decide for themselves but take them to church so that they can make an informed choice. Just wish I could decide which church I want to go to Wales has churches and chapels and on my previous visiting I would have been a chapel girl.

I do at least two loads of washing a day, its my least favourite least rewarding job...

So last night DT2 up (after 9:30 ish bedtime for all 3 in a frightening return to the Sleep Hell this week with DD like when i was pg) 12, 2, 4 & 7. DT1 up 1:30, 4:30, 8. DD up 5:30, singing in her cot though I ignored her, was still busy with DT1. Err, seriously children?!

Still today is my birthday, last one before the big 3-0 and i have eaten enough chocolate and cake to sink a ship! Not sure if.it'll be finished by Wednesday but I need to join the healthy times. Not the Shred yet. Pelvic floor not ready- not from this pg but from my shit first delivery, I had a rectocele or cystocele as well as my third degree tear and I think I can feel it quite a lot again. Boo! No leaking though thank goodness! Apparently my super fast CS recovery is to blame as I've done too much lifting too early...

Yay bartlet, so pleased for you! Best pop into the ttc fred :)

I don't have big boobs but have plenty of milk to feed two. I don't think boob size matters either . Your party idea sounds good musical

Happy Birthday Dream

Huge congrats Bartlet, I'm delighted for you

No time to post, almost at breaking point with DS playing up this afternoon and this evening. F***g DH still not home after promising me he'd make an effort to be here for 6 tonight.

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So lovely to see you Bartlet and I'm just so happy about your BFP - congratulations!!

My boobs are also pretty big (they were G cups at one point(!) but they've settled back down to an F now). Little A still feeds constantly every 45 minutes last night, ugh! She's a big girl as well, she's been on the 75th percentile since she was born.

Loving the christening chat. Same as Musical we're planning to have a humanist naming ceremony. DH wants to get one of his colleagues in the Registrar's office to do the naming ceremony but I prefer the Humanists. We're not religious at all and I would feel really hypocritical having a religious ceremony for DD, but that doesn't mean I don't want the opportunity to celebrate her arrival and to name specific individuals to watch over her in addition to DH & I and my Mum, Dad, and Sis who are completely obsessed with her. This is old ground for us though, we had a civil wedding in Italy and a Humanist blessing of our marriage back in the UK, so we're used to finding ways to observe traditions without resorting to religion.

I tried out the split tummy muscle test and it seems like my muscles are back in place! Woohoo! Glad all these wretched exercises I have to do for my hips/core muscles are also helping my tummy muscles and pelvic floor.

Yay for more diet/exercise partners! From Wednesday then - we will shift these extra pounds!! I'm not weighing myself until Wednesday, I don't want to face the truth...

Ooooo and HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Dream! I hope your DH is treating you to a full night's sleep!

Happy Birthday Dream!

One howly little baby over here. She looks exhausted but she won't settle down and sleep.

happy birthday dream!

we have a grumpy baby of an evening here too. i reckon I'll have strong arms and shoulders if nothing else from all the swaying and walking up and down the living room carrying him over the last few weeks.

Happy birthday Dream

The ill-advised journey is going ok so far. Although ds1 is doing a very passable impression of a Duracell bunny and is yet to draw breath from constant talking / questions....

Hope the tired babies are settling and that your ds1 is giving you some peace Scarlet and DH has finally got home and is now fanning you with palm leaves whilst peeling grapes and keeping you supplied with to make up for being late xxx

Happy birthday dream!! I hope you have has a good day and that you collective offspring allow you some sleep tonight.

And massive congratulations to Bartlet and the others. I will be brooking no argument that you all enjoy lovely, uneventful pregnancies.

too I haven't shredded before but a friend got really into it a while ago. I will be using beans as weights I think! I looking forward to it in a masochistic sort of way.

pomme and scarlet hope your evenings are both a bit more peaceful than your days have been. We are at my parents this weekend so hopefully dd1 will have someone else to dote on her and answer her endless questions while I try and renew my patience.

cakes I didn't know you were in Wales! Whereabouts? It might be that my recent mega-move has landed me nearby. Hope you haven't had as much rain as we had today. I thought might be washed away at lunchtime.

Happy birthday Dream! I hope you've had a wonderful day, and that your DCs let you sleep a little more tonigh