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rubbish here too. DS2 didn't settle as usual at 11 and i was still trying at 2am. DH had been asleep since his head hit the pillow and snored through all the screaming, couldn't wake him if i tried. so i lost it when DS2 filled his nappy at 2 and shook him awake rather vigorously. He is not good with waking up at night...

so tired i could cry. would have been ok apart from having this bug as well.

DS1 all hot again this morning and DS2 back to coughing. :( HV round later on to see how giant DS2 is, he feels massive all of a sudden.

I won't tell you about my sleep last night! I did comment on the other thread because I didn't think pregnant ladies would throw stuff at me! :)

Dream amazing work getting the playground that early - I bet you had it all to yourself!

Too loving the naked sunbathing! What about trying a bit of fake tan on your visible bits instead, so you don't have to keep washing it off? I'm using Nivea moisturising lotion which gives a "deep, sun-kissed glow" on my pasty white legs.

I was in and out with DS yesterday, but mainly because it was 29 degrees in the conservatory (which is our main living room, where I like to feed DS during the day). So I'd feed him then take him outside where it was cooler! By the evening I was feeding him in just a nappy, but he was in a short romper suit for the rest of the day. I think M must be too hot if she's sweating, but hopefully the weather's cooling a bit now so less of a problem.

Wants great weight-gaining and sleeping - no brooking that it continues. All your boys sound fab - what a lovely family!

Scream glad you had a good time with your NCT group. Are your hips ok now?

Musical my local NCT has a 'bumps and babes' group for mums to meet and chat, as well as social gatherings in different areas. You don't have to be a member to go along, so maybe you could find something similar where you are?

Pomme I also get no help from DH at night, but as I generally only do one or two feeds and no nappies, and DS is going straight back to sleep, I'm managing. Sometimes at the weekend DH takes DS in the morning so I can catch up on some sleep.

Jaggy hope you all feel better today.

Biscuits did DS2 cooperate or did you do the nursery run in pyjamas?!

Gah!

You know that feeling when you finally work out what you want and you can't have it?

Pushchair related quandary alert

We have a quinny zapp (as well as a bugaboo cameleon and a mclaren techno XT). I only bought the zapp second hand a something for my in-laws to use when they used to pick ds1 up from nursery. T'was
brillopads for that. But then once the bugaboo was consigned to the loft for being too big and unnecessary (once ds1 started walking for bits and bobs of the day) I was using the mclaren all the time. But although it is way smaller than the bugaboo, it still doesn't fit straight across the boot of my car - it has to go diagonally so kind of fills up a lot of the boot.

So once we moved and the in-laws no longer needed the zapp I started using it all the time because it was so wee and compact. The only downside to it is that it doesn't recline so not so good for naps.

So I got to thinking that maybe I would sell it and get a petit Zia star which is v similar but reclines (and is cheap second hand too). But reading reviews it seems it can be a bit awkward to push the PZS once your child is sort of 2+. My zapp was great to push even when ds1 was 3+.

Then I got to thinking (after a suggestion on a thread on MN) about a quinny zapp xtra which is v similar to mine but the seat unit reclines or can even be parent facing. Winner

Even better you could actually keep the chassis of the old zapp and put the new seat unit on. Winner winner chicken dinner.

However, the seat unit on its own is about £125 new . Not a winner. Can't justify that when I have 2 perfectly good pushchairs. And there are hardly any seat units going second hand (so thy'll be expensive when they do go). And to buy a whole zapp xtra you're looking at well over £100 second hand too.

So I really can't justify that sort of outlay just to pimp my zapp for occasions when I might have a lot of stuff in my boot.

So I know what I want now. But I can't have it. Rubbish!

How's everyone doing today anyway? Enjoying the last of the lovely weather? I've finally been to the doctors about my piles and she's given me about 8000 different things for them. And Beconase for my hay fever hooray!! And am now having a celebratory and well deserved coffee and cake while ds2 sleeps in the pram (cos of course he's fast asleep now after his early morning antics )

What about eBay for your others to raise the cash biscuits?

Hmm I suppose I could sell the mclaren and the quinny?

I like the adjustable height handles on the mclaren (for lanky beanpole DH) and the fact that the seat has a flap at the end that extends to support the whole leg while they're small, and I doubt the quinny does either of those.

I could sell ds1 and keep all the pushchairs.....

Or maybe pawn him until ds2 grows out of pushchairs?

Or I could pawn ds2 until he grows out of pushchairs. That way I could hopefully skip over weaning and potty training too?

Oo talking of pt had a small breakthrough at weekend - dd1 great at potty if totally naked. Not a very portable method.

at pawning children. Not sure M would fetch much atm, she's being very high maintenance and howling at me a lot.

Zzz. I can't cope. I keep crying at nothing and I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm not especially exhausted, I don't think. DH is being angelic and doing much of the baby-wrangling - it's not even like I'm on my own with her, because of DH being signed off just now. M spent a good hour this morning wailing and looking hungry, but then choking and spluttering every time I put her to the boob. My boob tried to help by spraying milk everywhere whenever she came off. Eventually I gave up and DH walked around the living room with her until she fell asleep. I tried expressing in case my boob was a bit overfull but hardly got anything. I went and cleaned the kitchen floor which hadn't been mopped since M was a week old, and it was Mum who did it then because it was bugging me so much, and collapsed in a sweaty heap on the sofa just as M woke up again. M fed happily for a bit and then suddenly switched into wailing mode again. DH did the walking-around thing again and she's now asleep in her pram. I feel like a complete failure. I keep waking up in the night convinced M's died, and I have to sit up and watch her sleep until I'm sure she's breathing. Oh, and I watched about half of The Lovely Bones last night because it was on TV and completely upset myself - had to turn it off because my throat was closing up with panic.

Sorry for the me me me post. I'm just having a bit of a moment.

That's great news pomme. We had a lot of success bare bum in the early days (ds1 was bare bum not us )

too - don't watch things like that for one. I've been steering well clear of anything upsetting including African appeal adverts since dd1's birth. I can't imagine but would presume that losing your dd1 would mean that you understand the frailty of life in a way that makes watching m breathe a bit of a necessity. Have you had any counselling since m's arrival?

A is being more grumpy in the heat and the broken nights are catching up with me too. On Friday over breakfast I didn't talk to dh just cried. For the first hour of the day I am horrible as I am so annoyed about not getting more sleep. What I'm trying to say us part if what you're feeling is normal, or at least I hope so

Er, how many typos?!

cross post with you there Too - but agree with Pomme's wise words

i cried cos i felt shit this morning too. had a wee nap earlier so feel a tiny bit better.

my wee chubby boy is still piling it on, R is over 11lb now

think DS1 is probably losing weight though, not that keen on food at the moment. he had a decent amount at lunch time there so maybe he's getting better at last. DH and i can't smell or taste anything - DS1's nappy is getting a lot of checking. (not that we need taste for nappy changing). it does mean you can't smell it while you change him though.

too i am getting a bit of fast letdown crying panic too and also squirted him in the face this morning. I've tried skooshing a bit into the nearest bib or muslin which helps a wee bit. if i remember right it will just calm down itself eventually.

i don't think i could watch that film, I'm already a super worrier panic monkey. i got the angelcare monitor when DS1 was born as i knew I'd never sleep for checking he was ok. it's back out of the cupboard for wee R.

too I've also been weeping today! Must be something in the air for the brookers. It's bloody hard work this mothering malarky. I feel like someone is always upset whatever I do. DS1 has mostly got the wees sorted but has pooped in his pants loads this weekend. Am hoping it will just get better in time....

Forgot to add that I was just coming on earlier to write a very similar post as too.

I remember struggling sometimes with ds1 and I think it helped to think tomorrow is another day. So if today sucked or I felt I was a rubbish mum then tomorrow would most certainly be better.

I'm definitely struggling with two and find that my mood is really low at times. I'm trying to perk up but I think the disrupted sleep is the main culprit but I do feel everything is too much and I can't cope. DS1 bears the brunt of it and then I feel so guilty as he isn't even 3 and I expect too much from the poor pumpkin. Gah now on a further guilt trip. Oh god DS2 crying again got to go

I love you guys. I really do. [soppy emoticon] You just make me feel normal. It helps so much to know that it's not just me having frequent meltdowns.

Too - no time for a long post, but I'd ask about the work counselling service if I were you. I'm sure they'd let you use it while on ML. And who gives a toss if they think it's cheeky. The service is there to be used when there's a need and if you have a need, or even if you want to explore if you have a need, then take every bit of help you can get my love.

Sorry for rushing - have to finish the ironing and go get my no. 1 son back xx

Just to clarify, I mean get him hack from nursery - I didn't pawn him per our earlier discussion

Ooops - broke the thread

A was up from ten to twelve and now feeding again. Surely at 13 weeks this should be better. If she doesn't settle after this feed I will cry!

E is all windy again - not feeding do much but only happy if he's upright on me. Gets all uncomfortable every time I put him down.

And on the rare occasion I get back into bed, DS1 keeps popping out of his room

Feel your pain Pomme

Mine's all snotty again so has been doing the chest frog again. his cough is back again too and i hate hearing it, he's just so little. :( this bug is doing my nut, just when we think we're getting better it's bad again. so fed up of everyone looking miserable. DS1 has slept better tonight, just heard the odd cough. sorry to whine, but now my face hurts too and I'm just grumpy.
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ok me me me bit over.

i didn't bother waking DH for anything last night, think it was probably easier. i did try to get him to have DS2 on his chest there but it went a bit wrong. DS2 had a coughing fit, panicked and puked on DH. then decided he wanted a feed and to lie and snuffle loudly on my chest.

hope A and E and the other brooking babies settled better!

Oh no Jaggy you poor poor things . Hoping you're all starting to be on the men's of ds1 has only coughed a bit? Is it your sinuses that hurt? My face hurts when I get a cough / cold type thing sort of all across my cheeks. And I get toothache too. Is it that sort of thing? Its horrible when you're ill like that and you just cant remember what it's like to not be ill. Brooking it all clears up soon for you all xx

How old is ds2 now?

DS2 hasn't really settled since his last feed. Has just fed again now and I'm hoping he'll settle off properly again and I might get an hour or more before ds1 is up