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Scarlet it is normal to be that hectic in these early weeks, is there anyway you can include Ds more like having special books or toys, or cuddling him at the same time? I think possibly DH seeming less bonded could be due to a crazy work schedule?

Is there any bf support groups in your area, where you could be checked to see if there is a reason she is feeding frequently? These groups can be so helpful generally too :) You can look it up here

It would be a shame to stop when you have had struggles overcome them and things are going well as it is so good for both of you to breastfeed. Pomme did have a wobble so hopefully she will have some sage advice on this :)

I find getting out really good for making me feel better, I have a double as long distances are too far for DD. A buggy board would have been fine but they just seem to be a nightmare and I was concerned I would still have backache .etc after my rubbish pregnancy so double it was! If you buy a second hand p&t or something you shouldn't lose any money when you come to sell, some say consider it a rental.

How are you feeling in yourself generally? As you seem frustrated at things around you rather than specifically the feeding.

Practical wise, In the earlier days, I was boiling eggs and pasta in the evening when I had help, for the next day so that I just need to chop some veggies up for pasta salad or peel an egg for a snack for DD. I also buy regularly fresh pasta and gnocchi as it takes 3mins for them to cook and you can put pesto through it. Also fruit is good snacking material :) And I invested in a tesco value toastie machine for something quick and hot and now DD is addicted to these!

On hot days your milk does change so that baby doesn't get dehydrated, so that is why your extra thirsty Biscuits suncream is not allowed before 6 months, can't remember why though..

Jaggy this is the best nursing top for summer ever other patterns too :)

Too H is having his 1st jabs this Fri too, I just think he has had longer to develop his body so he won't be poorly because of them..

Wants you are at weight management group already?! Blimey, I am starting it next week and my GP was concerned I had 'unrealistic expectations' as it takes 9 months to put weight on so should take 9 months to come off... I said I have put three stone on having the two children and weigh more than my husband, so something needs to happen! lol

Well bugger me! How did I not know this about sunscreen?

To be fair ds1 was born in sept so it wouldn't have mattered for him.

Just got out the baby sunscreen and it says suitable for babies from 3 mths and toddlers. And I put it on ds2 yesterday It literally never occurred to me

So what should I be doing? I still kept him in the pram with the apron bit over it and a hat on. What sort of thing should I dress him in?

biscuits, doubt it'll matter. I just had the BBBB's in long sleeve vests, little trousers and socks in the pushchair. DD had really light floaty type tops, poor boys miss out.

biscuits - I've used mussies as blankets to cover skin with both mine in the pram in hot weather.

Regarding the ff scarlet I had a wibble at some point as a loves to feed and for the first few weeks it upset dd1. If I'm totally honest, what got me through? Cbeebies and chocolate cake (her fav thing in the world). My new rule in life is that there are no rules and a few weeks of excess tv and cake appears to have done no harm to dd1 at all. We're now back to normal levels on both. Cuddles and kisses given to her at every opp (even when she pushed me away) helped. Lots of talking - very interactive cake and tv! Bf whilst walking, bf whilst dd1's on my knee, bf whilst kneeling and playing are useful skills. If you like slings maybe one of those feeding slings?

Before a feed dd2 always had to wait for dd1 to be settled and entertained so she cried for food much more than dd1 ever had to.

Also, having switched to ff with at 6 weeks ish and not noticing a massive improvement in sleeping and feeding I at least knew the other option wasn't always a solution.

It may however be right for you, at the end of the day that is for you to decide. Just make sure it's what you really want to do so take your time.

In other news I have full on af at twelve weeks! Majorly unfair!

Sorry, switched with dd1. Still bf little miss chompy cheeks.

Back to the af though, I got my period at twelve weeks with dd1 too but thoughtvitcwas early as had stopped feeding. I was hoping for a longer break!

Biscuits I noticed that when I tried to buy baby sunscreen before DD arrived - they all say "from 3 months". I've just been keeping DD out of direct sunlight - I keep the pram hood up when it's sunny and today I bought her the parasol that goes with her pram. It was really helpful while we were out shopping. I'm less worried about the occasional moment of direct sunlight for DD though, even though she still has DH's red hair she's finally starting to get just a little bit of colour to her skin. So I think she'll be able to tolerate more sunlight than DH soon! (Don't worry, I'm not planning to test this out! I still keep her covered up.)

Jaggy your trip to the shops today sounds exactly like mine! DD wouldn't settle in the pram so I spent most of the trip holding her in one arm and trying to drive the pram around the aisles with the other hand! Fun fun fun. Also DD wanted to drink constantly! Super glad I don't bf in public though, so I could just hold the bottle of ebm to DD's mouth while continuing to shop

Scarlet sorry you're finding the bfing so tough. I totally agree that it feels constant, I can't imagine how hard it must be to try to look after a toddler whilst ebf a newborn. No Brooking for longer gaps between feeds, and soon!

Yay for little F! Well done to Hawthers for such good pt!

I'm finding it so hard to keep up with this thread at the mo, let alone the grads thread! Today I managed to feed myself and shower (always a challenge when DH is at work!) do a 3 hour shopping trip and buy loads of things I've been nagging waiting for DH to get for AGES, I also baked cookies, and prepared a lasagne perfectly timed for DH's return from work! I haven't had such a productive day since the SPD arrived in January! I'm really starting to feel more like my old self!

I'm taking my Nan (and DD) to the Chelsea Flower Show tomorrow (it was my bday pressie to her). Does anyone know if it's a smart dress type of event or if jeans are the norm?

Err, I did three loads if washing (my normal daily amount...), had help pegging it out n made fish fingers waffles and peas all round for tea . But I can't ever do sweet F A as I've always got a baby attached to me, feeding, always

Plus couldn't get DT1 to space feeds today, even by pushing in the buggy and had three explosive up-the-back colic poos (according to the LC) so just finished a full change now . Really cocking it up here somehow but i don't know what to dooooo!!!!! Fret, scream, feed. This is my day, with both, every day. Poor DD. I am spread too thin. I'm a tired mummy with no energy, imagination or time to play with her properly.

Chelsea flower show sounds great but no idea scream

A went to sleep at 7, fed at 2am and is still asleep. Dd1 however woke at midnight and five screaming so have had less sleep than normal. Feel irrationally upset about it. Have I mentioned I have af?! ARGH!

that sucks about AF pomme, mine didn't come back till 7ish months last time when i was back at work and expressing, will be miffed if it's earlier!

no idea what happened last night. DS2 dozed off after much less screaming at about 11.15 which was nice. slept in the crib for a while, then woke up for a feed sometime. then i woke up with him on my knee at 4.30 with a sore neck from sleeping sitting up. then he had a feed and change and feed. need to get him back in bed now.

so pathetically tired because of the cold. feel worse today which is annoying, was hoping it'd go away. it's annoying my asthma and i had to get my reliever inhaler out that i never normally use.

sscarlet i deliberately picked a day when DS1 was busy for yesterday's trip out to the shops and to meet my friend. i would have really struggled in a coffee shop with him full of beans! we got quite a nice chat while DS2 slept/fed. :)

Dd1 up at six with normal pooey nappy (baby still asleep!) and when I stood up blood just poured out of me. Fed up!

Am of seven months jaggy!

Also, would anyone like to borrow a toddler that is the human equivalent of one of those crazy spaniel dogs? My toddler has broken me not the baby (who is still asleep).

pomme! Totally totally unfair about AF. I'd be gutted. I had to suddenly drop feeds to get mine back at 9 months last time. It is to come back even later this time. And that's an order. Does anyone else think having children had worsened af considerably? Mine were almost unmanageable after DD, so heavy I had to get up three times a night to avoid flooding everywhere...

I am knackered. And seriously grumpy.

Now pomme, I'd borrow your DD if you'd take my dts, so the equivalent of triplets, or toddler twins. And then we could swap on rotation. My DD is still asleep. A goer?!

Oh, and the DT's up every f*ing 40 minutes from 4am having not done so well til then either. WTAF?! I am weepy at 7:30am with tiredness... Can they not just do some 2 hour sleeps? Or 3 hours?!

Ds2 also up since 4am . Don't know how you do it xx

AF is being unfair no? Last time for me was 6 mths. This time about 9 frigging weeks! And i'd spent at least 5 weeks of those with post birth bleeding

And while I'm being unreasonably grumpy, this hot weather can just sod off if it just means I have to feed DS2 all the time. No fun.

Whoever gets the triplets needs three boobs though dream! Wasn't there a busted song about having three boobs once?

Maybe Busted were a group made up of three boobs?

I'm actually going to google this now....

Pomme shows her expert knowledge...

Am totally broken too and I've only got one baby. Sorry to say but 5 months on and I'm still up every 2 hours. I'm exhausted and a shit mum very tired. Thinking of giving up bf just rule out f being hungry.

I wonder whatever happened to Busted? I can't even remember their names apart from posh toff Charlie.

I really need to get showered and dressed but ds2 is finally asleep on me and it's the cutest cuddle

i just cuddled DS2 for ages too. then i put him in bed and he had a sleep poo. so then we get a change followed by feed of course.

i think the jaggythistle household is just going to sit about and sniffle and cough today, feeling v rough. just had to call my aunt to put her off coming today. don't want to give her the germs and i might be rubbish company anyway. grumpy cos i feel bad as i probably haven't seen her since DS1 was born.

when i moved to this house i moved closer to lots of family and i thought I'd see them more but it hasn't really happened.

nooooom! he's pooped again.

((((HUGS)))) all round this morning, although it is too hot for it really.

Sounds like we're all going through it at the moment. Dream I've said it before and no doubt I'll say it again, but I just don't know how you do it?! This 1 baby is breaking me. I know you're coping because you have no choice, but I honestly think I'd have had a breakdown by now in your position.

Thanks for all the advice yesterday. I've not switched to formula...yet. I'm still thinking about it and will reassess early next week. If I set myself little targets like that I might be able to get a bit further. Making the bottles up and sterilising and feeding I know will be much quicker and easier than BFing going by previous experience with DS. I didn't find it inconvenient or time consuming at all in comparison to BF. It's just determination that's stopping me switching at the moment. DD did not go to sleep until 2am this morning. This was after feeding all evening up until that point. DH had to be up at 5.30am and won't be home until 7pm tonight, I have a headache already and DD is already trying to break me again. She woke up at 5.30 (I think DH might have disturbed her) I fed her and then she barfed it all back up She's fed ok since then though and managed to keep it down.

My PIL have come to my rescue this morning offering to take DS out for the day. I snapped their hands off but feel like crying really. He's no trouble at all and being so lovely. I feel so bad for palming him off but I know he'll have a great time. I just wish it was me taking him out somewhere. Purple I'm fine generally, thanks for asking. I know I'm moaning a lot I think it's the cabin fever making things worse. There's no where really to walk to from where I live and I've still got another 2.5 weeks before I'm able to drive. But I might start at the weekend because I can't stand it for much longer I asked my GP last week and she said that it's not an insurance thing as is commonly believed. It's just that if I had to perform an emergency stop I could do myself some damage. She said that doing short journeys after 2 weeks would probably be ok.

I love this weather and I am lucky enough to have a lovely back garden. I ordered a insect net to go over the pram which arrived this morning so I might sit out if DD is happy to nap in her pram. I'll park her in the shade with the insect net over the top. I also didn't realise about the suncream, but I shall bring her inside to feed anyway.

Busted. Wasn't that the one with Matt Willis? Jungle King/ex addict person?

*Short journeys after 4 weeks, not 2.