April 2011 - Babies turning one, shopping to be done, toddling, tantrums and talking to come

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New stage, new thread!

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Oh no mrsw. I hope you all feel better very soon. Sounds like what s and I had. It lasted a week exactly. Tho most of it was tum not vom so fingers crossed! X

Grim mrsw. We were near you yesterday. Was going to pop in for a cuppa. Glad I didn't now I hear you all have the lurgy.

Dh is doing my head in. He can't relax, every squeak b make through the night has him up. 3.30 this morning b coughed and that was him for the day. Now he's banging about like a bear with a sore head because he's tired. But will he go for a nap. Nope. I'm this close to whacking him over the head with a skillet so he will sleep. I'm suggesting he takes b for a walk, but he's not making a move that way yet.

Family holidays? Pah!

Ya gotta love family holidays looking back I laugh at myself when I took young, free and single holidays. I used to think it was so tiring clubbing then doing naff all during the day

I found the first holiday with a dc awful. I expected everything to run like it does at home and even now with my expectations considerably lowered I always find it takes a few days to get into the holiday.

Sounds horrible MrsW, I hope dd and dp are feeling better soon - and that they keep it to themselves!

Today has been day 1 of 'operation open cup' with toddler I - at mealtimes only, where he is contained. It is going ok so far. But from experience they like to lull you into a false sense of security at the start, then throw a full cup over themselves when you think they are capable of holding the cup themselves I'm sure I used an open cup with ds1&2 from 6 months

How are the Family Wajs today? Hope that things aren't so grim and you're all feeling a little bit better.

Holiday sounds, ummm, not particularly relaxing Fizz. You can all keep the rest of your holiday horror stories to yourself though thanks. We're off next month and I'm already feeling stressed about it. Quite how we're going to cart all our stuff there in our tiny car is a mystery to me. We can barely fit the pram in the boot as it is. I suspect that DH and I will have had a major falling out before we've left the drive. Oh well...

We've also been attempting operation open cup Ilike. It's going reasonably well provided that there's only about an inch of liquid in the cup. Any more than that and DD seems to think it's an invitation to use it as a hand basin. Fine when it's water but not so good when it's full of milk and she's sat on the couch

Hey All,

Hope Family Wajs are better.

I'm feeling sorry for myself here. Threw up last night, been ok today, but the thought of food is making me queasy.

And that's what is worrying me.

The last time I felt like this I was 6 wks pg. When we had norovirus before xmas, I don't remember feeling quite this way. That was more definitely ill; feverish and stomach churney. This is more like a hangover.

Of course, it can't be that since I have a coil and had a period 3 weeks ago (thus, if it was, it'd be too early to feel this dodgy).

But I might end up POA(out of date)S at some point.

That's very strange UBW but exactly how I felt before this bug struck, the smell of the washing powder/anti-bac wipes/food were making me heave and I was convinced I was pg again, despite actually having my period!!

DP and I are feeling much better now but R is still vomitting but only once...at night! Very weird.

Well, I suppose a bug is preferable here!

How long has it lasted with you? So far, it's only me, although DH had a bug at the weekend (more bowel centred) and F was sick once last week and has been off his food.

I'm hoping I'm the last to have it, not the first with a new bug.

Was pondering to myself this morning how quiet our PN group was when the light dawned that you'd dropped off my 'I'm On' threads

So, hellllooooo, long time no see :)

Sorry to hear about all the illness, DD was sick last night but I'm hoping it was just from coughing as both she & I have had a horrid cold for a while now. Mine is going finally but it wiped me out for a while.
DS2 has just got the coughing part which is unhelpful with his asthma.

DS1 is away with PIL for a week which is weird and kind of nice, sort of. No school runs which is lovely (DS2 gets a bus that collects & drops off at the door).

I've been busy but the main thing is my BF group has been shut down :( complicated but basically the Childrens Centre didn't want us there anymore as we don't fit their 'targets' or some such blah. The group was there for about 7 years (was somewhere else before) and I feel sooo angry about it just ending so quickly (a couple of weeks notice) and there being no BF support at all for a major deprived area of the town.
I had a meeting with other BF volunteers & our supervisors last night but nothing really moved forward & I just gave myself a stress headache from it all.
I'm hoping we can set up a rebel group within a new church/charity group that's due to start next Jan giving away free food to poor families. Though there may be some free formula being given out at the same time which we will have to compromise on and ignore. Supervisors not happy about that but we don't care too much about them as they haven't helped at all with the closing down situation.
grr, rant over sorry!

Kitty - love hearing how far pg you are, not too much longer left to go. What will your age gap be? the boys were 20months apart and whilst I wouldn't do it again it was ok, routine was sacred important, as was getting out of the house to do anything

Hi jks
That's awful about your group. I hope you get something sorted.
I'm 30 weeks (will be 31 Monday). So 9 weeks to go as I'm having an elective. Hoping to get my date when I see the consultant on 14th August. I finish work wed. Booked a fortnight off pre mat leave to avoid commuting in the Olympics. S is 14 months do a 16 month age gap. I'm more relaxed about it than I was but will def be trying to get baby into a routine ASAP. Baby is an utter fidget.

Hope everyone feels better very soon. There's so much illness about.

Hello all. Sorry I've been so quiet I've been busy playing with my new phone but mumsnet doesn't have an android app. I'm now moving everything onto the phone including todo and shopping lists! My old phone has been given to M who has taken to holding it to her ear saying 'hiya' - there is NOTHING cuter
We're also looking at moving house - more room and a garden is required so we've been busy sorting and putting ours on the market.

Not too long to go now kitty!

Oh, exciting times Chilli . let us know about the house selling and buying

Hi JKS, lovely to see you. Shame about the bf'ing group. Under whose banner did you practice? Could you move to someone else? I know what you mean about the conflict issues being a pita. We have quite an active BFN presence in our area, but sometimes they do silly things to make a moral stand, forgetting that sometimes you just have to work alongside others and at the end of the day the most important thing is helping those who need it.

Hope the UBW household is feeling better.

The rain is STIlLL pouring here so we have made peanut and choc cookies as a thank you gift for the pre school helpers. It is the last day of term here tomorrow I am trying to cram my diary with meet ups and activities.

chilli we can share house moving woes. It's been ages since I last complained about still living in our GODFORSAKEN ONE BEDROOM FLAT (small business being run out of living room).

We're hoping to exchange contracts in a fortnight but I'm trying not to get too excited as we've got to this stage before only for it to fall through. Also -we're buying a SHITHEAP. Or a fixer upper as I believe they politely call it. Trying not to think too hard about what we're getting ourselves into, and how it might be fun if we were a childless couple but it could be a nightmare with a toddler. Or how we are going to be skint for the next ten years doing it up - and that's before we can afford to do the kitchen extension/loft conversion of our dreams. But it's so much more house than we could afford otherwise, and it's near good schools, and if it were all nice it would be our 'forever house'....

Sorry to hear about all the illness, everyone. Strokes of heads all round...

Yes house-moving, can be fun, but mostly stressful. Good luck!

ILike - I have been trained under the Mum2Mum banner, which operates under SEPT which is part of the PCT. I think .
The local PCT is aiming for Unicef Baby-Friendly Initiative which is fine in theory but means that we can't be seen to tolerate ff in anyway (as far as i understand it anyway).
I just think a service for those that want it is better than no service at all.

So we may try and set up in this church thing as 'unnamed BF helpers' which may piss off the Mum2Mum people but i can't help that as they've been so useless in the last few weeks.

Meant to say - i put DD in a sleeping bag the other day (having not used them when it warmed up but then she learned to stand up so thought I'd try and use them to keep her down!) and I went in and she was out of it. It was one with a popper on each shoulder which she must have undone herself!
So given up on them again until it gets colder then i'll see.

She has a duvet but not a pillow yet, though she'd probably love one. Mostly I think she'd use it to help her climb out though! She looks really tall for the lowest setting already which is worrying.

I want to move her in with the boys at some point for a while at least as i think it'd be cute all 3 sharing :) nutter
and was thinking of getting bunkbeds for the boys (anyone bought any recently, would love tips?) so DD could have a bed then. DS1 moved into a bed about 18mo, DS2 not til much later with his seizures, so could be anytime I suppose.
She's 15months tomorrow :)
Oh and not walking, lots of cruising and she'll 'cut the corner' but not confident enough to just walk yet.
And 12 teeth though i think more must be on their way.

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you. We are 4 years into our renovation and it is tough and a pita, but it will be worth it. You get used to living in a building site surprisingly quickly

All three sharing JKS?!

Dh is seeing the vasectomy GP today for a pre op chat. Not that I told you or anything. He hasn't told a sole about it, he's not usually so coy about things. The info sheet said that he had to have a letter from me giving my permission - he is raging about that and is going to complain about it.

That is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS, ILTMIMI. I wonder what would happen if he refused? Or you could write a letter saying "I'm outraged that you asked for this and refuse to provide it". That would confuse them

I haven't written a letter, so I shall let you know what happens. It is outrageous isn't it? I wonder if it's the same with female sterilisation?

It is. When. Y mum got it done my dad had to go with her to give consent. And that was almost 20 years ago.

V quiet here. Are you all off enjoying the sunshine?

It's my last week Monday at work til april. Whoop.

Enjoying the sunshine- pah, i wish! I so can't be bothered with work today...

It is very quiet here though. Maybe the thread has fallen off the 'I'm on list' for people. I don't remember seeing Ali or Frak around for ages (to name just two).

I'm rather jealous about it being your last Monday in work though Kitty...

Dont be too jel star S has been a bit of a sod the last couple of weeks. Tantrums when i say no or take something he shouldnt have. And melt down after i had to go to several stores nowhere near each other resulting in back and forth from buggy to car, and generally not wanting to be in the car. How do you teach a 14 month he is being naughty? I sit him in the armchair and tell him no. And dont talk to him, but he just cries. I'm afraid my patience isnt in existence either so i dont think i am handling him well at all.

I'm here! Spent most of yesterday in the garden - which is probably why both boys slept until 7.30 this morning. Of course I was awake at 6.30

Try and remember that this last bit of pregnancy is usually the physically toughest part. Put in to the mix hot weather and a young toddler.........

My patience is wafer thin at the end of pregnancy, so I could never tell if it was M's or my behaviour that was deteriorating

Trying to teach a young one manners/behaviour/rules is a bit like groundhog day IMO. Constant repetition, but you do get there eventually. Keep the rules and explanations simple.

Thanks ilike :)

Is this the right age for teaching discipline? DP and I have occasional points of friction on this. I think we should talk firmly to her and state rules but not expect her to actually modify her behaviour at this age - it's more laying the groundwork for future discipline. I feel she's too young to really understand or 'behave' but perhaps I'm being too soft. He points out that she clearly knows when she's being naughty and sometimes bellows at her for misbehaving, which makes her cry. I feel sorry for her then, and think he's being mean and she's too young. But I'm quite possibly being soft as he points out she clearly knows some things she's not allowed to do (such as go in the kitchen) so even when the baby gate is open she (mostly) hovers at the threshold rather than goes in. This is almost entirely his doing and not mine so he's probably right that she's old enough to learn. But I still think he's a bit mean sometimes.

I assume we're going to be arguing about this until she's at least 18?

Also - I think we're going to have to have a Conversation about smacking. Before I had her I was vaguely of the 'it didn't do me any harm' school of thought but now she's here I literally cannot bear the thought of anyone hitting her. But I think he's inclined to smack. Oh god. How to navigate?

Well I think they are old enough for some basic discipline.
If DD hits me (in temper when she's frustrated for eg), I firmly say NO, sign no & put her sat down away from me.
She cries & she doesn't like it.
Then she calms a bit and we have a cuddle and I say again, no hitting, it's not nice, etc.

She's a big girl & she can hurt already & i can't have the boys seeing her hitting or generally misbehaving with no comeback.

About smacking....hmm tricky one. I used to think it wasn't soooo bad, and DS1 got the odd smacked hand. Until he started hitting me back & i thought, for us anyway, it's doesn't work. Maybe when I was a kid I didn't think to hit back, but all I seemed to be teaching DS1 was that hitting each other was ok.
If that makes sense

Anyone else melting? The world's gorn mad I say, from crazy floods to boiling hot. Think we had hail less than a week ago!

You make alot of sense jks. Advice appreciated