Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Also I take your 40dd and raise you a 32H can't wait to have normal boobs back

Hope you've had a good night Kayz.

Newborns are tricksy to feed, they are so tiny and curled up. I love that ds2 has got to the age where he just flops over me and we curl up together :) Our hospital has been doing loads to try to improve bf and they we telling all the ladies at the bf workshops that they encourage you to have at least an hour skin to skin straight after the birth. That time for tha baby to figure it all out for himself in very valuable.

I've had roughly 4 hours sleep. It was half 1 before she fell asleep and then she was up at 3. Then half 5 she fell asleep and my alarm went of at 7. So probably less than 4 hours.

I don't think she's getting anything from me. There was no poo this morning but it was a decent wet nappy.

The MW today is my usual one so really looking forward to seeing her and hoping she can give me some more help.

Kayz has she been checked for tongue tie? DD had that but undetected for 4 weeks! BF nightmare. Hope its sorted out soon. Sorry if this has been mentioned.
Jam - we don't get rosters until 2 weeks before for the following month, but have to do requests 2 mths out - never know, what flight are you on? but may also be taking Nov off as dh has part one of big exams and needs me to be around every night as its full on for him.
A flying meet up! lol - no way I'd want to join in! Can't be serving you lot the bubbly if I can't partake!!
Not sure how long I'll be doing this either - may have a better offer!
Vag, yes LAX twice daily!
I'm feeling like a crap mother - didn't put enough cream on dd yest and she got a little burnt I'm a bit embarrassed to take her to swimming
and my leave has been rejected for our hols when we thought it would be dh having the prob! - gutted. Will have to do some thinking and put a new plan into action
And the rain is back - crap

She hasn't yet. I'm going to ask today if the MW can have a look. She is a pest. She's acting hungry so I try and feed her, we have 5 mins of feeding then she appears to fall asleep for 5 mins and then we start again.

But she is adorably cute so I don't mind too much.

Chin up Rubes, have a pina colada, pretend its fruit juice. So whats your better offer?

KAYZ that sounds like an ok night. If she has a lovely wet nappy then she is definitely getting food from you. Remember the first few days its colostrum, your milk will come in good and proper in a couple of days. You are doing brilliantly, dont mistrust your body. I second third forth the tongue tie DS1 had it and it went undetected for a few wks my nips were shredded. Also I reme,ber feeling like I was going to crush their heads I was holding them so tight it was so painful for the first few days. Brill advice from everyone take a deep breath count to 10 if its still hurting like buggering take her off and try again.

2 more sleeps till holiday time. I cant wait to get out of this miserable weather tis lashing it down again.

Rubes its ok your not in Australia, UK is a lot less judgy about children tanning. You'll remember next time.

Kayz BF don't forget BF babies don't poo so much in the first few days (except meconium) because most of what they take in is used up, there is very little waste. You are probably still mostly producing colostrum. Relax, you are doing fine. Ask about tongue tie as it is really common and often missed, but also make sure the MW watches her latch and if your not satisfied with her help call the numbers Indith gave or the lady I mentioned on FB is happy to talk to you via skype. I'm sure your MW will be helpful, but do not let her convince you to top up, and don't let her undermine your confidence.

Kayz she has the stomach the size of a marble, 5 mins of effective feeding will fill her up then a quick kip will give her the energy she needs to digest it. Frequent feeding is also her way of getting your supply going. Seriously trust her she knows what she is doing. Kayz have you got any help, you should be able to lay back and do all this but you won't be able to if you have to sort the boys out. Wish you were here, in NL they provide a home help for the first couple of weeks after birth. They cook, clean and look after the siblings.

Not really. The only help is mum taking them to school and picking them up. But my Dad comes up tomorrow, he's staying in a b&b but will be able to look after the boys.

She does seem content apart from the not wanting to be out down so I can go to the toilet and stuff.

Kayz Vag is talking sense! As always :) On neonatal I was told 5 mins is all they need at first. A wet nappy shows she IS feeding. Like Jam says trust your body.

As you know L was ff and it is hard to go from looking at the bottle and counting the oz to just feeding and not knowing what they are having.

You can do it! Glad your dad is coming up that will make things easier.

Urbane Not wanting to worry you but I've not shrunk after stopping feeding. 30GG!

She has a lot of wind out of the bottom end. She really smells.

Kayz I was given the same advice as the wise Veg, Indith et al are giving - teeny stomach, colostrum, little and often etc. I have one of those baby diary apps on my phone because I'm a geek and like tables and charts, and looking back, she didn't start to have some yellow poo in with the meconium until 48 hours. Remember that R needs to learn how to latch and feed and suck, she's never done it before so it's a guessing game for her. And the afterpains were evil this time, very regular paracetamol was the only thing that stopped me screeching. I was told they get worse with each baby, I feel for you. Have you got someone feeding you (and the boys)? Can your Mum stay after the school run to prepare tea? Lots of food and drink are essential. BTW, R shares my middle name

Right back at ya Rubes - I look at your fb photos of DD (and mini Beans and Summer) and think 'what genius babies you have, walking and talking and so grown up'. I forget that 2 whole years have passed!

Why have you decided to resign Beans?

DD2 had her 3rd jabs this week and the poor mite suffered this time, no smiles for anyone until tea time yesterday . She slept well last night and is on better form today. And no more for a year

of all those boobs. I was impressed with mine at 34D, but I know they'll deflate to a saggy B

ZJ R shares mine, mums, nans and my great nans middle name. I always said if I had a daughter she would have it too.

It's my Gran's first name too - its a good name. How lovely that 5 generations of your family have it

My boobs are a saggy 36C now, ZJ - and to be honest, I think they're as depressed as I am about it - they certainly look at the floor when un-bra'd.

I have resigned! I just felt like I wasn't giving enough to my boss and, to be honest, I could tell that she wasn't feeling the love that much anyway, so I guess I sort of leapt before I was pushed a bit too. But it is definitely a weight off my mind. I think having moved etc, I have so much else to do and am nesting and trying to make friends, plus run the house and look after the girls and was only making about £250pcm, which actually isn't much.

I was loving it when I was in London because I went in to see her every week and felt like I was on top of it. But here I could feel it running away from me as I couldn't dedicate as much time and attention to it, IYSWIM? Anyway, better for it, I think.

Kayz - wise words from everyone and definitely get tongue-tie checked!

DD2 now officially 2. Very sweet. And very keen on weeing and pooing on the potty. Please god, I don't have the energy to do potty training yet!!!!

Beans Don't be miserable about your breasts. I'm sure your DH isn't complaining!

I remember reading about the pencil test when I was younger, these days mine could hide a entire pencil case!

Zj I love that you have a poo chart!

Rubes I meant to say. Don't beat yourself up on the suntan lotion. I'm forever missing a bit and I've got a ginger baby who only has to look at the sun to go red.

You sound like you are doing well Kayz. Second/third everything already said. If she is having wet nappies then she is getting milk. He tummy is tiny, seriously tiny. 1ml of your colostrum is nutritionally the same as 30ml of formula so you really don't need to worry that she isn't getting enough. She will feed lots and lots and lots at first to get your supply going :). The feed/sleep/feed thing is all part of her normal pattern, there is a lovely hormone she has called cck that is designed to drive you mad by actually making her fall asleep through suckling then wake 20 mins later after a little cat nap for more food. At her age feeding is hard work so it makes sure she recharges her batteries to feed again so that she gets what she needs.

Hellllllooooooooooo, I am back. What a lot of lovely posts to read, it's taken me yonks! Much to respond on.

But first - Kayz - many, many congrats on the arrival of the scrumptious sounding Rosalie Jean! Woooo! Am thrilled for you. I hope the feeding improves for you. Be kind to yourself, she only arrived yesterday. Hope you are managing to rest a bit.

And how can the first of our second wave babies be TWO already?

Have to leg it off to get DD1 from pre-school so back later (HONEST) but had a good trip with the girls even though we all had really pooey coughs and colds. They were troupers, on the whole. Anyway - must get DD1...

Kayz You are doing so well! But I am a little worried that being on your own till DH comes home you are probably stressing a bit about the feeding? Does that make sense. You only had her yesterday and should just be snuggled in bed all day with her but I do understand that isn't possible with the boys to look after too.

If her nappy is wet she is definitely getting something from you and your milk isn't in yet so like everyone else said her frequent 'snacks' are just helping stimulate your supply. Good news your Dad is going to be around to help this weekend though.

DH text earlier to tell me all about what he has been up to...I don't mind him going at all but at the same time I really don't care to hear about how much drunk last night or how fecking hot it is!! Especially while I have whinny, moaning DC's to look after and p*ing down with rain

I hear oyu Dieds thats one of my biggest moans when DH is away. Hate that they think we want to hear about how drunk they are and what a brilliant time they are having.

Much disgustingness today. DS2 was itching his bottom and I had a look and lo and behold little wiggling worms, vom! Just what I need before we go on holiday. So am boil washing all the bedding and towels and am going to douche his bum in the shower. This is clearly why bidets were invented.

Thing that used to annoy me most when dh worked away was the texts going "just had squid followed by steak" or "went to the Japanse and had lovely bento box" when I was back home padding out mince with yet more lentils to keep the cost down. Not that he was wasting money, he had an expenses budget so only had to pay for lunch himeself and he used to travel down with crisps and flapjacks etc for all his packed lunches.

She's been checked and she doesn't have tongue tie. MW said the latch looks great and that sometimes it just hurts for a few days while we both get used to it. She did say that if it gets too painful to take her off, have a breather and then try again.

I am struggling though as I can not put her down without her screaming. I just want to go to the toilet, get a drink, sort out boys etc but can't without listening to her which is horrible. I don't feel up to using the sling yet.

Kayz you said she is producing wind (farting) and she is screaming, maybe she is already a bit windy which could be latch or it could just be one of those things. Try laying her on her left side and if you can get to it give her tum or her lower back a little light gentle rub in a circular motion. Or do that thing where you lay her on your arm face down supporting her head. I could be wrong but just a thought. But as indith said you really should be laying down with her being waited on hand and foot. As soon as your dad gets here make sure that happens. When is Dh back? You do sound stressed (not surprisingly you just gave birth) and she maybe responding to that.

I didn't say that, Deidre did. Tis true though. Can you still get HomeStart volunteers in credit crunch Britain?

www.home-start.org.uk/findus/north yes you can, and there is a scheme in your area Kayz. Even a couple of hours twice a week could give you some much needed time to rest and feed. Try not to stress about things, just stick the TV on and snuggle down on the sofa with baby and boys. Housework and stuff will keep.