July 2010: Their speech is improving but it's sleep we're still losing

[DesperateHousewife21]

Welcome back everyone!

Don't try to force him into routine - I'd let him sleep earlier.

His rash will most likely be viral, he's not been himslef for a couple of days now so I'm guessing that's what it's been.

Gosh vik I really feel for you . Are you just not able to sleep when he's awake or do you have the monitor in with you? Fwiw unless he's screaming crying I'd just turn over and go back asleep if at all possible. Maybe try giving him the medinol before bed tonight in case there is something bothering him. Do what ever makes your life the easiest during the day. If you go to brum will you get help?
Beautiful weather here today so we've been out all morn! Went for a long walk and then playground and then cleaned out my car which was quite disgustingly dirty .
Hope W is ok Mlic. I bloody hate rashes they worry the hell out of you!

oh vik try not to think it's you - it is just shit at times having two small children. deffo see if you can get some help from sure start or HV.

and can't you turn the video off and just put sound on? mihgt make it easier to switch off a bit.

Sorry you're feeling crap mlic. i'm sure something will come along that's right for you (and don't forget to send me your CV - ok!?)

A is a right bloody stinky thing at the moment - trumping away with abandon

she's speaking about the same as mlic's w by the sounds of it. has tons of words now (wet, lost, stuck, bed are new faves), attempts 1-5 but not recognisably, has attempted a couple of short sentences but not regularly and says set phrases like 'up you go', 'dropped it' and 'get down'.

off out with a friend for a meal tonight. unusually i was out for a meal (curry) last night too with dh so i'm not sure what we'll have tonight - think either pizza express or tapas (new one opened)

meal plans...?

Ill child

New phone dropped into water

S'all I'm going to say.

tsc id love to put my ear plugs in, i used to! but i have to listen out for F now. I did leave him last night pretty much, i went in after about 10mins and then again after about two hrs, he just continues. Hows C and whens the brain scan?
kk Defo DONT have the monitor in my room, its downstairs so i was seeing it when i got up. The walls are crap in my house and we can hear every word so its kind of hard to go to sleep when it sounds like its right in your earhole!
Its not been a bad day after all, quiet morning then taking tsc advice i ran him ragged around the park as it was such a lovely day.
I am going to bed now after a heady mix of wine, ibuprofen and kalms!!

Evening everyone!
vik hope you get a better night tonight, no real advice as from me sorry, but sounds like a plan getting another opinion from a different doctor.
mlic that is shit about your phone (and the ill child) and the job :(
cake I have no meal plan apart from pasta bake tomorrow and probably a curry on saturday.

Last night was awful for us, he cried for Daddy pretty much all night, im convinced its because he now frets when dh doesnt come home from work. he hardly slept a wink so at 3am I brought him in with us, he continued to babble about mummy and daddy and other randon things then dropped off at 4.30 when dh went to work then I had to wake him at 6 to go myself!
He has apparently eaten loads for my mum, but then at bedtime tonight he screamed and cried until I took him into our room and he cuddled up to me and dropped off, I really didnt want to start doing that but something has freaked him out.

Glad your day wasn't too bad vik

Dh is giving up smoking for the 60 millionth time and he is so bloody grumpy I actually wish he would just have a cigarette and cheer up. I'm not even looking forward to the weekend because he will just slouch around the house looking miserable.

i forgot to say to you wss that that is super-crap about dh's targets doubling. have they done that across the board?

dh STILL hasn;'t heard about the job he went for

bless L memph they know how to make you feel sorry for them, don't they?

No it's not across the board cake. I think everyone's targets have gone up, but not by as much. I'm not sure how they justify it.

I don't meal plan particular meals for particular days but over the next week we'll be having

• Spag bol
• Sausage casserole
• Quiche
• Sausages with bacon, apple and onion
• Something chickeny, prob wraps

and that's about as organised as I get

tsc that meal sounds right up my street Enjoy your C-free day! I love it when L has a full day at nursery, she's always so much nicer when she gets home. She's got conjunctivits again though so nursery's cancelled again.

wss that's just plain ridiculous, how do they expect him to fit it in?

cake S has the worst guts at the mo, not sure if it's the last molars or what but yeuch! makes the whole house stink...

mlisc argh about the phone, is it dead as a dodo or saveable? Hope something comes up for you, if you didn't get shortlisted, it wasn't meant to be!

viks it is very hard work at this stage, just take it one day at a time and don't sweat the small stuff. Housework, cooking healthy meals, routines be buggered - they can all come later. I try and focus on making sure I've enjoyed each child at least once in a day, even if it's just reading S a story or helping L paint a picture or giving B some face time, otherwise the days just go by in a haze of "parenting" and you forget to mother (at least I do anyway).

Also, B is officially "An Odd Child". Not only does he regularly go for 3-4 hours overnight, bfing him hardly hurts (we both currently have thrush but that's fixable unlike a S's chronically crap latch) and this morning he huffed to himself in his cot for an hour and then self-settled WITHOUT BOOB. Fair enough he'll only sleep at night whilst snuggled right up to me so we are co-sleeping for the moment but still...3-4 hours between 11pm and either 2 or 3am at 12 days old? I'm not expecting it to last but I'm doing my best to enjoy it! (after the 3-4 hours he is then up for 2ish but hey ho, he's only little)

memphis S really hates it when DH goes out, L was never bothered but S really cries and gets upset. Not much we can do though except show them that we're still here.

tsc that meal sounds amazing! I had a kebab! (not a fancy one, a doner)
chulita great to hear things are going well at the moment at yours, love that you say the odd child as he is being easier :)

Any advice needed, last night L woke at 11.55 and cried all night, literally all fucking night, crying mommy mommyyyyyyyy dadddddyyyyyy sob sob sob. at one point I left him for 45 minutes and he didnt stop at all, I just ended up with him struggling to catch his breath, then he pooed and when I picked him up he clung to me for dear life and when I tried to get him off me he sobbed no mummy no, then when I got him into his cot he said no peeeeeeeeeese (please) was awful, I ended up shouting at him and dragging his cot into the middle of the room as he was banging the walls, so what do I do? who swapped my no crying non clingy child? My sister has taken him so I can chill out which I have decided im going to change his room around, he seems petrified of being alone in there, im considering putting the nursing chair in his room so I can sleep, he doesnt want to be held just us there, sorry for long post but im tired and desperate, I even cried at baby group today!

chu sounds like B is doing great. I know what you mean about parenting rather than mothering, i dont think i mother either of mine nearly enough. D is doing a sport reliefe walk this morning, im just hoping he hasnt spent it asleep in the pushchair, i wouldnt be supriesd. Just quickly as i have to go get D and im rocking F in the car seat to get him off. Last night was better in the way that D didnt cry at all but he was awake and singing/chatting from 4.10am, he was sat next to me yawning at 8.30 this morning he looks knackered all the time, its such ashame. I tried to get in to the doctors again but fully booked, gona have a full check up for D and speak to her about it. Do you guys think im making a mountain out of a mole hill. Do you think its just the way he is? mylife i have tried to ignore the fact that you didnt sleep through till aged 6 but its scared the crap out of me! Hows W today? He is really chewing lots of stuff including his fingers and really dribbling too but i cant see anything going on in there at all so god knows. Whats everyone doing the weekend, weather looks lovely.

ha, tsc you're norty

W is...erm...ill. He has an ear infection both ears, still covered in viral rash (although it's much better than yesterday) and he also has tonsilitis. That doesn't however excuse him throwing my £200 phone in the sink [anger] Hey ho, worse things happen at sea.

He has also been waking at night (although his illness may explain that).

Vik in your shoes I absolutely would take him back to the docs. FWIW I had E at the consultant at 3 weeks before my due date with W (so he was 18 months) as he woke so much and would cry for 2 hours ish overnight. My HV referred us, which is why I keep saying to speak to yours.

mlic the 'posh' kebab is real chunks of marinated lamb, not the twirling horsemeat!
vik I dont see a problem with going to the docs or hv thats what they get paid to do, I would get an emergency one of it makes you feel better too, pisses me off when they say they cant fit a child in, used to drive me mad at our old docs!

I have moved around L's room so the cot is on the other side to the door so he isnt standing at the door when he is awake, just taken him up to play so he gets used to it that way, he has eaten all his tea, I really hope he sleeps tonight.

vik how long is D sleeping for in the day? Just wondering if him being up at night is because he's having really long day sleeps. G has started dropping her daytime sleep some days - she goes down much quicker at night times. If she sleeps more than about an hour in the day she takes ages to go to sleep at night, messes about taking off her sleeping bag and nappy, eventually goes to sleep 8 or 8.30ish.

tsc if B does that he'll only be doing what the other two did right from the start

mlisc hope W gets better, can't be doing much for his behaviour...I hate it when they're ill and my older two seem to be constantly freaking ill at the mo.

I've asked for S to have his hearing checked - he still has one word and that's it, no attempts at anything else, although he runs everywhere he's not got any more stable than he was when he first started, he never responds when we call him unless we get his attention first and then say whatever it is we need to. He's not deaf, that's for sure but I'm not convinced he's not got glue ear or something.

I phoned the doctor to get a prescription for B's oral thrush and my nipple thrush and DH went to pick up the stuff...we've both got stuff for oral thrush now I have to wait til Monday before I can get something for nipples..."doctor, I seem to have broken my leg" "oh right, here are some eye drops"

Sorry guys, I haven't been on for ages!

chulita sounds like things are going OK for you, I'm really glad. Hope you can get a hearing check for S soon.

wss J skips his nap sometimes too and he sleeps better at night when it happens. Hope it won't happen permanently any time soon!

mlisc sorry to hear about your phone (and about W's illness).

tsc am loving the idea of F looking round for a soft spot to tantrum on!

viksam I'm soooo sympathetic - can't believe what you're having to put up with. Sleep deprivation is just the worst and I hope things improve for you soon. Do go and see the HV.

memph J is having a mummy stage, he won't be comforted by daddy, only mummy will do. It would be quite nice really if it was the other way round! Apparently he's not so bad if I'm not there.

cake hope your DH gets good job news soon.

Things is OK here. J isn't ill for a change (touch wood). Last night he slept through for 12 hours straight and then apparently had a lovely happy day at nursery. When I got him home he was really giggly and happy and we had a lovely hour or so playing together. I put him to bed and he went straight to sleep. Do you all hate me now? Don't worry, it won't last. Yesterday I took him into my office and he screamed and screamed and people shut their doors pointedly. He's been up for 2+ hours in the middle of the night four times in the last week. It's not all good...

Memphis I'm really sorry I totally missed your post. Your night sounds awfull. I wonder what caused that behaviour then, you say hoh hadn't changed his room around that day? I really hope ur having a better night tonight. We seem to be although saying that I have probably just hexed it. F is being a mare to settle after his feed though hence me still up from 3.20. Although I'm not complaining as that's great from a 10pm dream feed. He stayed in his moses from 7.30 last night upstairs! Hurrah! Me and dh could talk in loud voices and everything!

Wss he has 1.5 hrs sleep in the day, I always have to wake him up or he'd have loads more I think. I am in a nice solid routine that hardly ever deviates and we have a lovely bedtime routine and he hardly ever has trouble droping off on his own after a story. So god knows.
mylife hows w? What sort of night did u have? What did the consultant do with e then. I have spoken to the hv and she referee me to the community nurse that supposedly has had some sleep training....frankly I could have told her more! I will do docs and hv again next week.

woods sorry I missed ur post, bold on gbe the good times though that's great that he had 12 hrs, why was he up so much in the other nights?
Looks like I did hex it D is fidgeting, bummer, prepare for singing, banging, whingeing, etc untill its time to get up!
Clocks tomorrow, any stratagies to use it to our advantage?

Man alive! I'm tired, can't wait for B to settle in his basket. Night-times are one big cuddle-fest and last night he wanted to feed and feed and feed. DH offered to take him for a bit but I know he'd have wanted a feed within 30 mins or so - bottles are tempting at times :) Loving having 3 little ones so much, the reality will hit me once I have to look after them on my own though I reckon.

viks S is awake a lot at night, clattering around and chatting but now that he's in his own room I leave him to it. Not sure what the solution is for D, sounds like he's a stubborn, wakeful boy which doesn't help you at all!

memphis any better with moving the room around?

B's crying, gotta go!

OMG how quiet is it! i hope everyone has been out enjoying the weather, its been amazing today. We had a lovely time playing in the park then lunch out and watched a film this afternoon, a lovely day had by all.
chu Babies are physically knackering i think, you forget how much handling they need, especially for you with all the feeding. Is DH back on monday? Does he have any time off over easter? Your Mom was coming down wasnt she?
Im full of cold and feeling worse and worse by the hour so i have just downed some more paracetamol and echinacea. D isnt settled yet but as soon as he is im going to bed for a read and an early night! D has his first duvet and (vile thomas) duvet cover on tonight, hes just had blankets up to now, im hoping it will be magic and make him sleep soundly till 7!!hahaha not likely.
Dont forget the clocks Mommies. xx