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LittlePebble · 22/01/2012 06:42

Our third thread!

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LittlePebble · 13/02/2012 17:32

Yes Eli has started growling/ squeaking if you aren't looking at him to get your attention, plus if you're having a conversation with someone (even telling off the dog) he thinks it's with him and joins in -bless!

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golemmings · 13/02/2012 19:35

I'm slightly Envy of anyone who has made a successful transition to nursery. The 4mo sleep regression has kicked in majorly here. He's slept fine until we have come to bed and then he's writhed and grunted and cried for most of the rest of the night until dh has got up at 4ish and put him downstairs in his bouncy chair where he's slept like a log.

I think part of the problem is the reflux because we sit up with him for half hour or so after a feed so he's got used to sleeping on me and then being put down asleep.

However last night we wondered if he would sleep better in his own room. We need him to sleep because we're staying at my mother in laws' and somebody else's house is not the place to have an infant screaming all night.

Oh boy. Bad idea. He wouldn't to to bed at all so we brought him downstairs and put him in his chair. Usually we ignore him and he goes to sleep but nana couldn't leave him alone so he didn't sleep.

We went to bed eventually and put him in his cot asleep. He lasted 46 minutes. I took him downstairs. He howled in his bouncy chair. And in his pushchair. Eventually I gave up and took him to watch telly. He tell asleep to the opening credits or holby city. At the end I took him to bed still asleep and he was awake and screaming before I'd left the room. We went back downstairs and he slept happily in my arms through 2 episodes of call the midwife. Given it was 4am I decided a shift change was in order so we went back upstairs; I fed him, kicked DH out of bed and apparently the ratbag slept happily in his chair from 4 to 7.30.

I really, really hope that tonight is better.

Tomorrow we go home so at least tomorrow night comes with less stress and the ability to do pupd or controlled crying as necessary. Just tonight to worry about then...!

CheshireDing · 13/02/2012 20:17

Good luck tonight lemmings. That sounds like what P was doing - she was waking every hour, it made me wonder how we managed when she was brand new - how quickly you get used to a bit more sleep :)

Bubalie · 13/02/2012 21:13

Edward thanks for the high chair tips, it's always good to hear practical advice, I just liked the look of this chair, but was never thinking of practicalities of it! You could see I'm a first time mum! :)
L also likes to chat a lot, tonight bed time wasn't bad (after a day from hell where he moaned and cried and wouldn't settle or sleep all day!!). We gave him a bath and fed him, I then put him in his cot and laid on the bed next to the cot and he was happily chatting for an hour in his cot before he fell asleep on his own :). Can't remember last time he did that, although he has been waking every 45 minutes or so, so I have to go upstairs and give him the dummy and settle him back to sleep again.
Punky good job on the transition, I just can't see myself even trying while he is so unsettled, although Cheshire that is a good idea to sleep in the nursery to start off with, I also am worried about having to go into nursery every hour to settle him. I think that may be what I will do once we're ready to make the transition.
Re: nappies L is still in size 3 and they seem to fit still.

CheshireDing · 14/02/2012 07:12

Another good night in the nursery, P only woke twice :)

Such a vast improvement I can't believe it.

Not sure about leaving her alone in there now I think about it though as she is only 4 months and mw said they are supposed to stay in your room because of SIDS until at least 6 months.

MamaMaiasaura · 14/02/2012 07:34

cheshire glad you had good night. J is settling back again, thank goodness. She had feed at 9.30pm and then woke at 5am, she just stirring now. For rose in nurseries is it because cot doesn't fit In bedroom? We had Moses basket downstairs on early weeks just for somewhere for her to nap but had cot in bedroom from day 1. Had found with ds's they settles better in cot p Moses basket for night especially when a bit bigger.

MamaMaiasaura · 14/02/2012 07:35

Bloody phone and typos Sad hope that post made some sense.

emmazed · 14/02/2012 08:46

We have j in our room, but I think more for my sake than his. I really like having him there and hearing him at night, though I mean in a quiet snuffly breathing way than a crying way. He has been great at sleeping until 7ish for ages now. Last night he woke us with a sudden scream at 6am. I think it was a nightmare, well I hope it was that and not the start of sleep regression

J is just about to move to size 3 nappies. I have got reusables but everytime I try them they leak. V annoying as I spent a fortune on them.

Thanks for the high chair advice, will have to start looking soon. I want one without a tray (so they use the table) as I understand they are smaller.

lemming what a bad night! Hope it is better for you tonight

Anyone got any valentine plans?

LittlePebble · 14/02/2012 09:13

Morning all and Happy Valentines Day.

Cheshire glad P had a good night.
Mama we moved Eli into his nursery at Christmas but mainly because DP kept disturbing him by snoring, and our bedroom is so near the nursery with doors open he's no further from us than if you had a large bedroom.
Cheshire I'm ok about him being on his own in the nursery as we have an angelcare monitor that sets off an alarm if he stops breathing. Otherwise I'd be neurotic.
Been trying to squeeze Eli into size threes just to finish up what we had but can no longer do them up round his thighs Sad where did my little baby go? My DSis had my niece a week before E and my DN is still lovely and little and baby like Envy but E is already starting to look like a little boy not a baby. Have to bite my tongue every time someone insinuates he's fat tells me what a big boy he is Angry.

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strawberrypenguin · 14/02/2012 09:27

Happy Valentines Day to all :)

Cheshire glad you had a better night. W is in his own room on his own and has been for a week or so now (he's 15 weeks) we have a monitor with a screen so we can see what he's up to when he makes a noise! Never had him on a monitoring mat thing but have a feeling it would be no good in his case anyway he moves so much! As for the in a room with parents until 6 months didnt have much choice cot won't fit in our room and although one of us could sleep in with him I think we kept waking him up when he slept with us. I know I never slept in my parents room.

golemmings sorry you had a tough night, hope it gets better soon

Still in size 3 nappies here and fitting quiet well, W is fairly long but not very chunky most of his clothes look a bit baggy round the middle!

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 14/02/2012 09:54

Emma that's what I've got cause I would rather M sat at table than with a tray, I'm hoping it will help her eat the same as dh and I and then hopefully encourage C to do the same, he's a PITA when it comes to food!
If u don't want to spend too much then ikea is perfect mine is a metal one from there but the have wooden ones too and I think the most expensive one is around £40?

Mhairi and I are going for our 6week postnatal check today Confused

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 14/02/2012 10:00

Mhairi's been in her own room for about a week now and all of us are sleeping better as a result Grin I moved DS at around 3 months too and we have an angelcare movement monitor also but as mhairi has a cheap foam mattress it doesn't work as te foam absorbs all her movements so the alarm was just going off constantly. DS had a spring mattress though and it worked fine or him. So that's going on eBay now. We also wouldn't fit a cot in our room, we live in a new build designed to only contain a bed and minimal clothes in each room Angry

CheshireDing · 14/02/2012 12:18

We have put P in her cot in the nursery just for ease I suppose really Mamaand hoping that everyone gets better sleep then too :)

Pebble people say E is fat?! How rude. I hope you use the old Mumsnet phrase of ?did you mean that to sound so offensive? (or something like that anyway). We have a monitor pad, think ours is Tomy so actually you are right it should not really matter that she is only 4 months because the monitor would go off anyway. I probably just need to get a grip! Plus if she sleeps better in the cot that?s got to be a good thing.

Strawberry I think that is the case with P, she wears size 3 nappies and most of her clothes are baggy around the middle (even though she has a big gut)!

Er, hope your 6 week check is okay Ed Hmm

MamaMaiasaura · 14/02/2012 14:53

edward we are new build and it is a squash. ThR 3rd bedroom is so tiny we are wanting to go up in loft. I'm a bit of a hippy and co-sleep. Have J in oct one side and ds2 the other side. I find it easier with bfeeding as I'm too lazy to get up to have her close by. I only got the spoling highchair yesterday thanks to your link. Sat her in it already and she was full of smiles (till I tried to take photo).

Wasn't criticising moves to nursery was just interested in reasons why. Smile

CheshireDing · 14/02/2012 15:26

Well just had P weighed and she is still gaining weight so that should keep DH quiet for a while, he is obsessed by her being small and decided yesterday she had lost weight :( She is 13lbs and hovering around 25th centile so I don't know where he gets these ideas from, drives me crazy !

I would also like to start measuring her though as they don't chart that here, does anyone know are they measured from the top of their head to their toes or from shoulders to bottom etc?

LittlePebble · 14/02/2012 15:42

Just weighed him and he's 19lbs on 98th centile but persuaded them to measure him (top of head to flat of foot) and he's 70cm on 99.6th centile so not fat (shouts to the entire small town that I live in) Cheshire in fairness I might be a bit sensitive no one said he's fat just lot of "big" "chubba" "bonny" words and lots of surprise at his age. After a while it can give you a complex!

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Engelsmeisje · 14/02/2012 16:08

M has been in his own room since he was 3 weeks. We both sleep much better (have written about my sleeptalking and anxiety dreams!). he's right next door and we have the babyphone next to us as well. When he was in our room he was in the cot (we didn't bother getting a moses basket).

Another one in size 4 nappies.

Did you have a better night lemmings?

Am heading to England tomorrow for a little break to see my family. Really looking forward to spending some time with my mum (and maybe shopping at Bluewater Grin ). I'll be back on MN next week so bye for now

CheshireDing · 14/02/2012 16:45

Nothing wrong with being a bit sensitive Pebble. I can see why repetitive comments would get on your nerves though. Have now measured P with a B&Q tape measure now too thanks Grin

Has anyone surprised themselves by how much they love being at home with a baby? It's odd because I have always worked full time and never really been a maternal person and now don't want to go back to work (but then would not want to be a "Housewife" either) Hmm

Scheherezade · 14/02/2012 17:00

Hi all :)

Terrible night/day here. C fed at 7pm, then dream feed at 11. Then he was up at 1, 3, 6, 7 & 8. Miserable and moony all day, because my boobs aren't used to feeding in the night I ran out and he was getting SO angry and refusing to even latch and suck to empty boob, so I had to make a bottle, which he took 4oz of. Rested for 20-30 mins, then went and fed off both boobs (which had refilled)! He's finally sleeping now.

DP left me a box of lush goodies and two tickets to the theatre for my birthday this morning :) so I quickly rushed to make a steak & ale pie, and some chic brownies.

cheshire - could it be that she's got longer, so looks less chubby, which might make her look thinner?

LittlePebble · 14/02/2012 19:37

Happy Birthday Scheh x

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golemmings · 14/02/2012 19:38

sche that sounds awful. Hang in there. I hope its a one off. Is f having a grow? If so it could just be his plan to increase your milk supply, which sounds like it was successful.

We had a much better night last night but didn't bother with the cot at all. Alex dell asleep in his houncy chair so we rigged the baby monitor in the living room and we went to bed. He woke at 1 for a feed and again at 3 for a cuddle. I sent DH down that time and didn't see either of them again until I got up just after 7.

We're home again now and when I just popped him in his cot whilst I was doing something he seemed pleased to he home.

He fell asleep on me so I popped him in the cot whilst I caught up on this thread (and charging my phone) and whilst I was posting he grabbed the cable and stole my phone with a big grin on his face. Such a cutie!

On size, 19lb here too. On nappies, the size 3s still fit; he just wees so much he's through them in about 4 hours. Ok during the day, but rubbish at night.

em what cloth nappies are you using? We use tots bots bamboozles here which work for us. Interestingly, the tots bots covers used to leak on dd so I ended up buying motherease wraps which were brilliant. We have no problems with the tots bots wrappers and DS though. He's much chunkier, mind. Do you know anyone else with real nappies that you might be able to swap with?

Jnice · 14/02/2012 19:45

scheh L is also regressing. He did a good stretch from 8-1 then up after 45-90 minutes trough the night. When he was awake it was for ages. It was like having a newborn again Sad

I'm hoping this is a growth spurt and not something permanent.

Happy birthday!

PenguinArmy · 14/02/2012 19:57

19lb Shock DD is about 22 lbs. I was always jealous of big babies though.

chesire 13 lbs is a fantastic weight in it's own right.

em yeah, what nappies are you using, I'm sure between we can help, even if it's a good place to sell them. I got DS's second hand (some still in new packaging). We use bumgenius.

DD was in her own room for a few months when we were still in the UK, made no difference really to sleep. When we shared a room again at 4 months (was in 1 bed flat) I had found her noise wasn't a issue anymore. DS does a combo of moses basket and co-sleeping. He actually did one of his best night's ever, 9, 2 and 6. Normally if he does 9-2, it's every 2 hours afterwards.

I feel better with DS's difficulty in getting to sleep as in the house I will do one thing only. The key is getting him before overtired but just not always possible. DD turns 2 soon so am assuming things will magically get easier as I no longer have 2 under 2

Being awake for long periods in the night is normally developmental spurts. Hopefully it passes soon. How many weeks is he now Jnice?

PenguinArmy · 14/02/2012 19:58

erm... whose b'day is it?

Jnice · 14/02/2012 21:05

Oops scheh's birthday Smile