October 2011: our growing, rolling, sleeping (we hope) and growing more gorgeous by the day babies

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Our third thread!

Not the best night for us either - had to send dh to a and e with ds as he had yet another bout of croup. Fine now curled up on sofa watching a film.

Glad boob is on the mend pebble.

Pene what an awful awful thing to happen.

Engels - glad to hear milk is ok!

Bb3 - x-post, why are girls miserable?

Poor baby Penelope I heard.anbesol is apparently really good, might be worth a try?

Thinking of you and ds Jnice

Cheshire did you manage to get some sleep?

Are girls ok bb3 ?

Not.a good day for everyone it seems! Sorry to rub it in, but C has been a changed baby since I started true new routine! Right now he is asleep, on his playmat !! He just fell asleep whilst playing! Am in shock, this has never happened before. Though I'd of liked to be able to go back to bed myself!

Pene that's awful :( You would imagine them to be so robust by 7 months and be "safe" by then.

Jnce and Cheeky I hope your little ones are okay now.

Not sure I could really call it sleep "Pebble". I have posted in the sleep section just to try and find as many options as possible. Sometimes I wonder if I am barking up the wrong tree with the snot because she does manage to sleep on her back when she wants to/is sleepy enough but I cannot have her sleeping on my chest all the time it's madness.

Anyway have put lots of foundation on so off to coffee morning. God I hope they have cake.

Scheh can you tell me what the suggested routine was again.

I know you said the other day (but am too lazy to trawl back through thread) I am wondering if it's any different to ours and maybe I can steal some of it

lp you poor thing . Hope everything sorted soon
j I had no idea they routinely done a spinal tap on under 3 months!! What a scary thought. Hope lo is feeling better soon
pen that was heartbreaking to read. Those poor parents. No wonder you feel shaken!

Iv been a bit absent recently, having a bit of a hard time with S and the waking through night. She had a full night sleep last night (thank god!) so fingers crossed that's the growing over for another few months . Still in the early stages of teething I think. Cheeks still going flushed and the hand being rammed into her mouth! No little teeth through yet!!

Was reading up on weening last night. I signed up with cow and gate who sent out a great folder/book thing about it all. Don't plan to start till around 5 1/2 months, but it's scary to think I could be starting to feed her now!!

I don't know any more details, but have given my baby an extra cuddle tonight after finding out about the other poor wee baby!

I feel so bad for the parents, and think am just a little shaken up as it makes it real having met the baby. I feel a bit bad for being so shaken up though as it's such a tragedy I don't want to make it about me if that makes sense! When I was pregnant someone said that having babies does change your views on some things and I think that's true - I get much angrier when I read about people who hurt children now, and when I hear about child deaths they hit me harder than before. Has anyone else found that?

Penelope - yes, it does I'm much more emotional about children now and I'm fiercely protective of them, mine and others. This protectiveness has also led me to become less outgoing, I was very confident before and would talk to anyone and I'm still confident but tend to keep to my family and friends and don't really feel as comfortable in groups of people. Not like a recluse, I'm just cautious about who I let in.

I currently have my dn staying as well - she is 8 months and I can't imagine a world possible without her so to hear of SIDS at 7 months is incredibly scary as you always assume it's new babies (not that that is any easier to deal with)

Cheeky is ds ok? Poor mite.

Girls are just tired and cranky and not giving in! I was giving dn her baby porridge this morning and gave the girl a little smidgen on my finger, Edie wasn't so sure but Ayse was loving it! And had the mouth action down to a t! I'm not weaning until 6 months but will give them little tiny bits now and again!

Oh and scheh - you've had enough bad days to be entitled to a good one! Enjoy the peace and quiet!!!

From what Emma was saying its s bit like GF except I'm not strict! Basically feed, play 90 mins, then once he looks tired, starts grumping and yawning I take him upto his cot, wind up the mobile, give him a kiss and say night and leave. Then I go up every 5 mins (no longer), kiss, say night and leave. It's made such a difference in just 2 days, its like he has the confidence to fall asleep now, rather than getting worked up. And going up regularly let's them know you're still there, and haven't abandoned them, which apparently should stop them forming insecure attachments, and getting overly distressed & angry at seperation later in life....

But anyway it seems to be working thus far. 12 minutes is the longest he's cried for, 30 seconds the shortest. When I was leaving him and not going up he wouldn't stop crying, just got more and more distressed till he fell asleep from exhaustion.

I can't face weaning. The thought of no longer having that snuffly little cuddle with his eyes closed and little fists cuddling the boob makes me want to cry! I know you can still do bedtime bf, but its the thought if my little man growing up and becoming more independent . I'm going to be awful when he's older aren't i?!

Penelope I never really cared about kids and babies, I completely ignored most my developmental modules at uni, but now I'm obsessed! Wish I'd paid more attention and not sold my books.

Honestly, C is such a sod. I've put him on his tummy and he's just laid there laughing at me "what do you mean move? I'm pretty comfy here thanks mum!"

Sorry, mega posts from me.

Put C upstairs, he started crying after a few mins so I went up, gave him a kiss and left, and he dropped off straightaway!! My heart melted as he just wanted to make sure I was still there. I feel like I've discovered some incredible secret.

Scheh play for 90 minutes!!?? God I need to find more baby Mandarin in that case

I don't mean play with me! Just, doing something that isn't feeding. On his mat/chair/bouncer.

3rd swift, successful going-for-a-nap of the day! He was asleep before his mobile stopped turning!!

Hello everyone! Remember me?! I hope everyone's ok and I can re-join. I had a bit of tough time with my little boy, he has very bad (silent) reflux and is under the consultant care and on medication, but I feel like we're turning the corner now. Finally I'm getting some time where I can go on the internet and catch up with things. Will try and read all the posts and catch up with things, and hope to be regular contributor again :)

Hello bubalie!! Sorry to hear about DS, glad you're getting good help for it.

Lovely day today as eldest ds had inset day so he's been able to do preschool run with me and spend time with his baby sister too :)

Im crap at putting her on her tummy etc and generally have her on sling/arms/rocker. Put her on her tummy on play mat and she moved stuck her bum in air and proppelled her legs lol. So cute, did a 90 degree turn. She's also got a new way of waking me up. Laying on her back and lifting her legs right up and then crashing them down. Very funny.

Sorry to hear about bad nights. Been doing really well here. She's been sleeping through till 6/7

Ds2 finally taking a liking to her too. He's gettig over his cold finally. Can't wait for weekend.

Re gina ford. Definately not one for me. Tbh I don't follow any guru, tho have read Penelope leach which isn't a "this is what you must do" book. I think every single child is so different that to try and fit a routine for everyone is silly. But that's partly my nursing head where care is fitted to patient not patient fitted to care.

Ds1 birthday coming up and I've gone overboard again can't believe he'll be 12!

Mama- its interesting you say that as that is what DP was saying last night, we have been reactive not prescriptive in our parenting. Trying to do what works for him, rather than forcing him into something. Just happens that his natural routine is similar to GF! I've never even read a patenting book

Scheh - I think that's all any parent can do. Too much pressure on parents for their child to "perform" in a particular way IMO so I steer clear of all that. Tho I reme
NeR with ds1 it was all pretty daunting

Okay, thanks Scheh, will give it a go.

Hi Bubalie! Great to have you back sorry you've had a tough time with DS hope he's better now?
DP is away on a stag do this weekend so am on my own from now until Sunday lunch eek!

Not read/posted much this week. Engles I ordered 'Dead Reckoning' last week, it arrived on Tues and I finished it this morning. Have you read it yet? I don't want to spoil anything for you (or anyone else planning to read it).... Finished it desperate for the next one now....some ends need clearing up!

Pebble what a horrible gp. Glad you got some good advice on mn. Is it helping? Good luck this weekend. You know we are all here if you need 'company' (well we've got a shopping trip to outlet village and a visit to granny and grandpa but will still be about..)

jnice I hope L is getting better and cheeky hope your ds is better too.

BB3/Ed is it Teetha - Nelson's Granules that you use? I found some on amazon.

Pen how awful about the baby in your group. It's something that we all dread (well I do and I imagine every new mum does too). I'm not surprised you're shaken up. I am just thinking about it. Does anyone in the group know them well enough to do a collection or something?

Fuzzzy I've 'signed up' to C&G three times but still not had the welcome pack and free cuddly cow toy!

Sch well done on getting C to sleep. Does it work at night too? Does he take a dummy? Seb goes off straight away with that in the day if he's tired although takes a bit of persuasion at night, I guess as it doesn't always co-incide with when he is tired. Oh and that is the crap thing about babies - they have a tendency to grow up!!

Welcome back Bubalie.

Seb is currently sitting in his chair in his little dressing gown looking super cute

sch glad the nap routine has been working better for you
lp enjoy lots of smuggles with E being on your own. DP will be back before you know it!
bub welcome back!

Well me, ed and mrsH had lovely meet up this afternoon! Nice to put faces to names and see the cutie girls (and ds Ed!). I'm home, planning to get S to bed at 8ish then catch up with some tv. Got loads to watch!!