October 2011 - our happy, chatty babies!

[GroovyRach]

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Goo??? good

we had this discussion on sept 10 thread as someones mil wanted to put baby rice in their bottle. apparently a lot use to do it. but im always reminded of the couple who were feeding their kid ready brek and it died of a salt overdose. i wouldnt give my baby weetabix even when it was weaned. i waited till they were 1 before i gave them adult stuff. anyway, there is a really good copy of weetatbix for babies called something start and mine loved it with a fromage frais mixed in.

im not a big fan of baby led weaning to be truthful. but i think its because people have confused the meaning. i get the impression that most people think it means feeding your baby milk until they are able to eat themselves. i could be wrong but i was on the thread for weaning last year and thats what i concluded. they think they can just miss out the mushing stuff up phrase. but according to the world health organisation you should still be offering mushed up food too.
i found that they dont eat as much when they have to feed themselves and a lot of babies will gag at certain textures of food. i know its a pain but i think its best to start off with smooth food, textured, lumpy and then they can eat harder stuff. it is quite scary i think doing it this way- worrying they may choke. cant imagine just cutting straight to the big stuff.

OMG DS eats ready break and weetabix he was given weetabix from about 9 months I think then alternated with ready Brek from 18months?
He's now 2.5 and still has one or the other every morning, is this really bad and if so what should I give instead?

The baby who died from salt intake was being weaned at 3 months and who's diet consisted of ready brek, mashed potatoes and gravy. It was prob more the gravy than the cereal in my opinion. The makers of ready brek went to great lengths after the incident to show the salt in their cereals was not a dangerous level. I personally would feed wheatabix etc from 6 months without any worry. Dont feel like a bad mother ed. Better than all the cereal that's loaded with sugars!!

Bloody hell.

P.S there was a thread just recently on the weaning board about the salt levels in cereal and the baby who died

sorry- didnt mean to scare anyone. i give the twins weetabix and ready break now and they are 16 months. i meant when they are weaned from 17 weeks onwards (depending on when you do it) i looked at the salt in weetabix compared to the baby addition and it was a lot more, so i waited till they were 12 months to give them weetabix.

someone else said that about the gravy too. i still barely give mine gravy. plus its bloody messy!

Sche my MiL mentioned that she and my FiL dissolved a rusk in milk and cut a bigger hole in the bottle to get my dh to sleep when he was a baby. And she was a midwife! She's not telling us to do that though. I guess I'm quite lucky as MiL (ex-midwife) and mum (ex-NCT teacher) mainly leave us to it. I was dreading it. The main thing that my MiL goes on about is getting rid of the cat's litter tray.

My mum mentioned that her generation weren't bf and it was becoming slightly more common when her generation had babies. Now it's swung the other way and you are made to feel like the devil incarnate if you don't bf. Groovy I'm sorry it didn't work out with your milk supply but well done for trying. I had tried again as well about a week after I stopped as I noticed there was still something there but all I could get was drips, no matter how hard I tried (one of the reasons I had to stop in the first place). The more I read about others the more I think Seb was using the boob for comfort and not actually getting anything from it. Of course I can't test it now...

Got Seb weighed today: 11.7lb at 10 weeks (tomorrow)

Not sure why but I completely missed all posts this afternoon (I guess I forgot to refresh!).
Terrible about the baby being given ready-brek and gravy. Someone I know has a milkshake shop and says that they get asked to put milkshakes in babies bottles! Not sure how old the babies are but that is just wrong. MiL said that they used to advise to start to wean at 4 months and now its 6 but I wonder if that to be on the safe side as there are some idiots who will start earlier than advised. All instructions have to be written with idiots in mind!

Got S weighed today, 11lbs 11oz at 13 wks (14 this fri!). I was thinking she would be way over 12lbs so was a bit surprised. Last has her weighed on 7th dec and she was 10lbs 1oz so that's 1lb 10oz in 4 wks. Good girly

thats the crux of it tallybear they go to the extreme cos of the daft people who read nothing and just decide to do what they want. i was pregnant with dd1 at 25 and pregnant with dd2 and ds at 35 and the weaning age changed from 4 months to 6 months.
i decided i would just be led by the twins and see how it went. i think they were 23 weeks when it became obvious that my milk wasnt enough, so i started weaning then.
i think some authorities are leaning back towards 4 months as the reckon if a baby isnt weaned by 6 months there is an increased risk of coeliac diease.

My weaning group leader said you could wean at 4 months but all the. Evidence suggests its better to wean at 6. Remember tally with your 2nd there.was 10 more years of scientific research and.large.scale sample studies to compare the statistical merits of weaning ages, after.your first.

Ahh!! Just put on a white wash and forgot there was a new pair of jeans already in the machine. everything has came out with blue patches on it . All her new clothes. Can't even get out to asda to get a colour run thing as she is now down for the night and my mum won't come up to sit with her as its too windy .

Any suggestions till I can get some 2mrw? My mum suggested just leaving all the clothes soaking in water in the bath.

Ragin

I think it differs for every baby my ds needed weaning at 4.5months but he was born a v big baby! He had started waking several times at night (after 3 months of sleeping through) and was clearly still hungry after his milk.

I can't believe how stupid some people are though to wean a 3 month old on gravy!! Ds is 2.5 and even now he only gets a little gravy at the side to dip into.

DH is still playing up this manflu bollocks (I'm sure it's probably nicotine withdrawals) and has gone to bed early! So I'm getting a wee Edward hit and watching twilight

Groovy, if they're whites could you try bleaching the dye out?

Well, whites/light pink tops with stuff on front. Not just like plain vests/tops. I didn't word that right

Sorry - haven't vaught up but anyone have any advice on dealing with blocked ducts? Am in pain

Thread here

TIA

scheh it was me with the 10 year gap. i know that things change over time and i read a lot. but i also studied research methods for 3 years at university and i know how they can twist things. also i think, if they think they know better now- 10 years later- then surely they will think they know even better in another 10 years. and they will be saying that there has been 10 more years of research and we got it wrong!
therefore i decide to read everything and make my own conclusion. i think its all you can do. arm yourself with the information and go with what you think is best for your baby.

weaning

this is a good article to show how much conflicting research there actually is.

Thanks sassy - the link was broken but even in my current sorry for myself state I can do a search on the BBC so I think I've got the page (just wanted to say in case you checked and thought I hadn't bothered to click). Cheers!

Should have said - n my other thread. Night!

fleecy just read your other thread. It sounds similar to what I had at about 2 1/2 weeks. I was really cold and shivery and had a splitting headache as well as very sore boobs and blocked ducts. I was in tears as nothing coming out on expressing and was too sore to bf (this was before I gave up) i just felt better suddenly a couple of hours later and was able to express and massage until my boobs calmed down. It was not nice and I sympathise. I've got no advice except to keep at it and take paracetamol. Hope it gets better.

Wow you lot have been chatty. I've lost track of what most people have said so apologies for rubbish catch-up

BB3 hope DS is improving.
sassy I'm all in favour of tough love advice too. We were too soft with DD on a lot of things, still are at times, but we've toughened up a lot.
groovy I used milton to get stains out, it fades logos & patterns a bit, but not too much. Maybe try it on a couple of things first rather than the whole lot... or keeping them wet till you can get a colour run thing sounds like a good idea.
cheshire gripe water is ace. I love the stuff, both for S and when I was a kid. S occasionally gets really windy, obviously in pain but nothing solves it. I give him 5ml of gripe water, which he seems to like the taste of now, and he'll burp in no time. Often before he's had the whole 5ml. I give it him a ml or so at a time and keep patting his back in between. It's made from dill seed, which is what the smell is. Dill seeds are great for indigestion. When I was a kid gripe water had alcohol in and loads of sugar. I loved it :o

Ladies, please, please, please check your insurance policies. I've had a rotten day today. I knew there was limited cover for possessions on my car insurance of £200, so I contacted the house insurance today to claim for the items taken from the house, and the things in the car. It turns out I'm not insured for any property outside the home... unless it's in the shed. We don't have a drive, the car was parked outside the house on the road, therefore it's not covered.

I could have sworn I'd checked this out years ago as DH occasionally does gigs and I wanted to check his guitar etc were covered, also we go camping a lot. The insurance broker has no record of me contacting them so we won't be getting a pay out for all that stuff. DH & I added everything up last night, pram, car seat, 2 bottles of perfume (which were worth far more than I realised, I wouldn't have had them in the car had I known) maps, ipod, then all the little things like cd's, kites, fire extinguisher, blankets... it adds up to about £800 which we can't claim for. Even the basic stuff like the maps, car seat and my glasses are worth more than the £200.

Before making all these phone calls we went out to Bury Market to clear our heads and have some fun as a family... we were 6 or 7 minutes late back to the car and I've got a parking ticket.

Tomorrow the decorations are coming down I'm sick to the back teeth with this Christmas. What with illnesses, the burglary etc this has been the worst Christmas I can remember. I keep telling myself things can't get worse, then they do. :(

Oh bilblo that's awful!! What insurance company are you with? My friend used to work in car insurance, I can relay ur story to her, see if she can offer any advice to it.

Yes take all the decorations down. Will just be a reminder of the awful Christmas you have had

So sorry biblio what a crap christmas indeed! Don't really know what to say but I know I would be crying my eyes out in ur situation! It can only get better as the year goes on now!