October 2011 - our happy, chatty babies!

[GroovyRach]

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You don't sound judgemental and rude sassy . Obv everyone had their different parenting ways, I guess it's just getting into your own stride, and that I believe takes time.

Funny the bond a mother has with their child. Like all the reasons you said. I miss S after not seeing her for a few hours, unlike her dad who hasn't bothered his backside to see her since November but that's his loss in my opinion

Everyone is doing a great job offering advice without treading on toes IMO

Bottom line is that we can say what we'd do, but we all have to do what we are comfortable with - and that is different for everyone.

L is behaving In a similar way and I'm thinking growth spurt. I really do think what sche is going through is a temporary thing and they will see better days very soon.

Good luck and do what feels right for you! Lots of different opinions and families, no right or wrong so long as there is no CIO before 6m (or object permanence realization if that comes sooner!).

Forgive my north American spell check btw.

j where in Canada are you? Im off to Ontario in may! Have family out there so visit a lot. Lovely country, but I find ontario about 5 steps behind the uk!!

he's a 1st class idiot for not wanting to see his own child- and that's me putting it very politely.
i couldnt not see my kids, it would kill me. i was only in hospital for 3 days in totally (2full days and 2 half days) and i saw the twins for an hour both times on the 2 full days and i could hardly cope. i know that if they hadnt have let me go on the day they did, i would have discharged myself. as soon as i got home, i burst into racking sobs at seeing them.

I agree with sassy - first class idiot. His loss obviously.

fuzzy am in Vancouver which is pretty much the same distance again from Ontario as the uk! I had no idea how big Canada was until we travelled over here. Seeing land and realizing you're only half way there! My family visit often and we get back to the uk every couple of years.

Aww, that's lovely . I must say, I never had that instant 'rush of love' with S, I'd say she was prob close to 6 wks before I did, but now, wow. I'd go to the end of the earth for her!!

I'm on my phone and have read about 3 pages at once ao sorry if I get replies wrong
mama is the launch pads/sink shine the fly lady stuff? The way you list it in your first post about it makes it sound easy and do-able ( and I really need some sort f housework routine) but never know where to start I'm a bit like fuzzy let it build up then spend a good few hours blitzing whole house.
sche sorry about difficult few days M has been the same although she has been doing strange things with her Tongue and has started munching fingers and stopped sucking thumb so I think she's teething, could yours be teething or maybe growth spurt/wonder weeks? If it helps I've been using teething powders the past 2 days and definitely seems to be calming M down.

sassy u and I would get on great I think I always agree with all your posts/ideas/advice etc

jnice what is CIO or object permanence realisation?

Lol! Wow I had no idea either! Kinda makes you realise just how small the uk really is

I was the same with both of mine fuzzy despite EBF both of them DS was about 6-8weeks before I really fell in love with him, and M was about the same( although I still don't feel quite as strongly for M as DS but I know it will get stronger) I would never say that in RL though but I am finding it more difficult to bond with M than I did with C. Not sure if it's because I don't have as much alone time with her or because she's not as easy to read as DS (who giggle at anything) M keeps her cards close to her chest lol

Yes ed, iv never told anyone that in rl. I felt awful for not having that instant love. As u say, it is getting stronger. I remember I went out for a meal with friends when she was about 4 wks old, my first evening away from her and all night they kept asking me if I was missing her. I guess I did to an extent but was thinking 'no I dont really' . Now after a few hrs away, I do miss her but yeah, I know exactly what you mean

Tbh though you wouldn't fall in love with anyone on first meeting them it takes a while for any kind of love to develop I think

Very true, apart from Michael Buble, it was love at first sight with him

I am not a particularly soppy person but when P was born I didn't open my eyes for 5 minutes AND I thought "oh, I wanted a boy" when they said she was a girl. I did think overnight though she seemed lovely but on day 3 when DH said he was poping to the shop (probably for cake) I had hold of P and bawled my eyes out. I realised then she was just so yummy and gorgeous and tiny.

Then I cried when she outgrew her first baby grows, cried when she ran out of milk I had expressed when I went to meet friends in the pub and left her with DH, cried when she got her first tears.

I am pathetic now and want another girl (not bothered about boys now)

Scheh I reckon it's a growth spurt too, P is doing what she did last growth spurt. Wanting feeding but then messing and bouncing off the boob and becoming hysterical. I have to do the "shushing" type to come her down, then try boob again, I think terrible two's are going to be awful, she seems a right tantrumer (will go back to work and leave her with DH then)

Mama I must have a tidy lounge and kitchen before bed. I hate finding DH's socks on the settee in the morning :( I make lunches at night and tidy animal bowls etc too. I never knew there could be a name for it though! Will now adopt "launch pads" :)

Fuzzzy are you taking S to Canada? Buble has big ears.

Hi Scheh hope you and dp are ok now? I've had similar thing with my DP getting frustrated if E won't settle and he has to call me in with boob. Dp puts E to bed every night with bottle after bath and loves his time with E and that he can help me too. I had to step out to give him this time as kept hovering/ getting involved and it upset him. I know it's hard if they're crying as it scrambles your brain so not best time for DP to try but I do think talk to him and give him his own time/job and try to leave him to it until he calls you in (lol sassy at 1minute from your DH).
mama I read up on fly lady once E was born and love it but -am too lazy- haven't had chance to start it yet . I guess with 3 kids you need to be super organised.
jnice I'd love to visit Canada do you prefer it to the UK?
Cheshire lol I was the same as you but other way round, wanted girl as DP from line of nothing but boys so convinced myself if this one wasn't a girl would never get a girl, but now just want more scrummy boys as he's so gorgeous!

Oh Fuzzzy ...... Michael Buble?!

Did anyone watch midwife programme the other night? DP and I did and both were in tears at birth with stillborn (that was ok later) really brought back memories watching it and I was surprised how emotional I was watching it. Definitely a different reaction from both of bus to pre Eli, had to stop myself going and getting him out of cot to cuddle!

Oh my gosh just realised E has slept 6 hrs!!!!

Yehh, well done E ;)

ed CIO is cry it out, maybe similar to controlled crying? Object permanence is when a baby learns that when something goes away it still exists. Right now if you leave the room baby doesn't know that you are just next door, they just know that you are not there. Around 6m they suddenly get it, playing peekaboo really helps them with it and you will see that they can anticipate you appearing.

I hope I have explained that ok, google might be better

Well done E!

pebble I love it here, I miss people and strange things like marmalade but this is home now. I would find it hard to move back. Where we live you can be on a sandy beach and ski a mountain an hour later. Climate is similar to England.

Well done E!

Thanks jnice

Well M was up twice last night and I didn't get to sleep till 1.30am then C came up with leaky nappy so hadto get up at 6am to get him changed. Am now playing playdoh with him doesn't he know what time it is!!
Don't feel too tired yet but know I'll crash pretty soon no doubt around the time dh leaves for work

Scheh how are you today? Hope you had better night.

Sassy you dont sound like a bitch at all, good to have different perspectives

Fuzzy - agree with everyone, your ex is a stupid arse

Jnice - thanks for explaining object permanence, I couldn't remember when they "got it". I don't think I'd do CIO even when they did. Never did with ether boys.

cheshire - with ds1 I really wanted a girl and then he was so scrummy I wanted boys. Since having dd it took a while to get head around she's a girl and felt gullty as all seemed abit unreal. Totally over that now pretty dresses and pink everywhere

Ed - I know what you mean about them not know what time it. Ds2 is early riser (ds1 not so much now as almost teen) it is fly last stuff yes. .

I'm bleary eyed giving ds2 breakfast. Boobs hurt as J not fed since 11.

Bleary eyed as ds2 got cold and had me awake in night as he was restless. Zzzzz

awh edward im sure we would get on brilliantly.

i loved all my babies from birth, but i didnt fall in love with isobel and eva until around 3weeks. but was instantly in love with jacob and chloe. got really upset about it with isobel as it hadnt happened before,. but was ok with it with eva.
i didnt love the twins as much as chloe, or eva as much as the twins straight away either. i think its one of those things, that you're not supposed to talk about. but i bet at least half have experienced it. im actually totally besotted with eva in a way i havent been with any of the others. think its cos im not as panicky as i was with pfb and not as sleep deprived as i was with the twins, or maybe its cos shes going to be my last, or just cos she is sooooooo good- who knows?

She only woke up 10 minutes ago and had 6 minute feed! Was going to ask if she can guzzle that much in 6 min but she's having a poo as I type room for more then. I started to think about waking her as was 9 hours

cheshire yeah taking S to Canada with me! Just trying to work out good deals on flights then booking up! It's crazy that even though her 'flight ticket' is free, she still has to pay the airport taxes etc which are currently meaning that an adult all in is £333 and an infant who will be on my lap, no luggage allowance etc is charged £273 just in taxes alone thieving bastards . I was always under the impression a child on lap was completely free

Oh and yes, Mr Buble is looooovely

So today, fingers crossed getting my roof fixed, half of which blew away in wind a few wks back. They kept sayin it would be fixed soon, but I woke yesterday to a puddle of water on bathroom floor so screamed down phone at them that I wanted it done today! Then I'm off for a walk with S and my mums dog. Heres hoping it stays dry