July 2010 - Next thread, cba to think of a title

[Chulita]

I want to witter away to you lot and none of you have come up with the goods so this will have to do...

How many naps per day
One - for approx 1.5hrs

Nap time(s)
12noon

Bedtime
7pm

Time lo gets up
between 6.50am and 7.30am

Sleep through?
Generally yes. He'll sometimes stir/cry out but will self settle quickly. If he doesn't self settle (which is rare) I know there's something wrong and I get up to him.

Oh chu i wish i could do something to help, You really need some support in the day, could you speak to the HV maybe get some support from sure start or something, I cant imagine how difficult it is for you, fwiw i think u do brilliantly, being arsed to cook and everything. I just hope ur DH is helpfull at the weekends.
Moussaka is lovely, its worth cooking imo, its what i had when i was in very early labour with D, me and dh went into town to get mags etc(why we thought we would have time to read i really dont know) and we had lunch out, i contracted twice during my moussaka but it was lovely and i was dead glad that i'd had something hearty to eat.
trudy i recon tsc is right ur gona have this baby sooooooon, I know it wont be ur priority but try and let us know, we will all be thinking of u!!
DH do u not want to put him on cows milk? Do u think he wakes from hunger then? Im just seriously hoping that once these molars have cut he will be teething free for a while whilst newboy settles. A big hope me thinks!
The cm's son didnt sleep and even struggles now, he's 6! they discovered he had a heart murmer when he was 2 and a half but they didnt think that was anything to do with the sleeping, what a mare!

Really tsc when was that discovered? when you say had, does it correct its self? Yeah the cm said it wasnt anything to do with the bad sleeping just another added thing to deal with i suppose. She told me because it was discovered when they were looking into his sleep issues.

I didn't sleep through until I was 6

viksam wish I had eaten before I had an epidural, I was having the needle saying oh once this is in Im going to eat the whole bag of goodies ive got...then got told now I had an epi I couldnt eat, I was starving and still had to wait 26 hours til he arrived so I could eat, I then ate two lots of hospital food then the whole bag of food I brought in! I always fancy mousaka but have never had it!
mlic L had one nap about 10.30 for between 1 and 2 hours, he has never woken up this early before its killing me!
chulita dont know how you do it everyday, I literally am in meltdown not sure how im going to cope over the move if L doesnt let me sleep in later soon, my homestart offer volenteers for people who need it, just a woman who they pair you with to ease the burden once a week if it is just to have a soak in the bath, nap or iron do they offer things like that? and that milkman sounds awful I would be complaining to the dairy if that was here, we are moving to a cul de sac so should be quiet, our bedrooms are on the back too I cant wait.
tsc I did laugh at Clara doing a big turd!

dh would he drink more out of a beaker or bottle, we had to buy a lot of beakers before we found one L would use, he has 9oz of milk at bed roughly 45 mins after he had a big tea and 2 yoghurts too and if I had a bigger bottle he would drink more, we hactually buy hipp bedtime milk which is thicker.

DH has gone out to play pool with his mates, im eating a pack of mr kipling as all my baking stuff has been packed and the oven is clean!
we went to the farm today...L; found his first puddle, he srepped in it, stamped, slashed, jumped the he LAY in it, in cream chinos! I have packed a load of his clothes his other trousers are on the airer and the dungerees he was wearing he wee'ed on so cream was the only thing other than pj's we had!

Sorry mylife i totally missed ur post, i have booked for the flu jab but can pull out, i shall do some more research before going on saturday.
How many naps per day
Usually two but more frequently its just the one.
Nap time(s)
9.30-10 and 1.30-3
Bedtime
7pm
Time lo gets up
Anytime after 6 really.
Sleep through?
Not at the moment.

This may prove and interesting study! I do think its the luck of the draw to an extent but you have worked really hard with W to get to this stage havent u. What do u think u have done to get to the point ur at? I know u are a cio advocate, what else have u done in the day to make a differance do u think? Maybe i should BAN the morning nap forever.

Well it isn't for me to say what you should or shouldn't do vik, but yes in your shoes I would absolutely ban the first nap. I wouldn't leave the second nap until 1.30pm, he's waking too close to bedtime. I try to stick to nap at 12, that way he can have up to two hours (but is usually about one and a half) and it doesn't affect bedtime. To do this we tend to stay in on a morning, furthest I go is take the dogs on the field round the corner, then they have lunch 11.30/11.45 so he doesn't wake in hunger, bed at 12noon. Then we go out on an afternoon and burn off a bit of steam/get a change of scenery and home for tea at 4.30/5pm. Bath if they have one then bottle at 6.30 and in bed at 7pm. He is wide, wide awake for going down and that is key imo - I get him to give me a kiss, put him in his sleeping bag, zip him up and ask if he wants Bob () his teddy. He starts saying Bob, Bob, and laughing. Then I say night night, he says night night back and I leave.

I don't restrict myself unecessarily in order to stay in for his nap - I will make plans and throw routine once in a while - but I generally stick to it as I've worked out what works best for him/us so it feels natural to just do that iyswim

Sorry I've not been on here for a while.

How has everyone been?

I've been ok I went to the new doc about my problems and she was really nice and understanding (wish I'd had her from the start) she has made a referal for me to see a psychiatrist the appointment should come through in a month or two and she's put me on beta blockers for the anxiety.

Nice to see you Dylth. Was worried about ya

Memphis we tried the cow and gate toddler milk in his normal beaker and he drank that I just think he prefers drinking from a straw because his every day beaker has a flip top straw. I suppose it's a big change going from bf to any other kind of milk so I think I'll just see how he gets on and maybe change things if necessary.

Naps per day: just one now, usually around 11 or 11:30 for about an hour give our take 10 mins. This is a huge improvement from when I was bfing him so am v happy.

Bedtime: anywhere between 7 and 8 but it's usually closer to half 7.

Time lo gets up: 7am almost the same min every morning!

Sleeping through: no but he's a lot better than he was so it's work in progress.

mlisc your day routine sounds v similar to mine now! I tend to give D lunch after his nap just because his nap is slightly earlier but I make sure he has a hearty breakfast and snack before!

dylthan so glad to see you back, please keep coming on here even if its just to 'talk'
viksam I agree with mlic on the naps its rare I put L down for a nap in the afternoon its usually no later than 12 so he is awake by 2. L goes to bed wide awake too, give him bottle, press his lullaby then lights off and door shut.
I give L is lunch between 1 and 2 he wont eat his breakfast before 9 and i give him mid morning milk as he doesnt drink enough in the day.

mylife its all just food for thought though and good to your firm opinion on the way you view things that work for you. I think u might be right to perhaps bring the morning nap forward, maybe to 1 and alow him 1.5hrs so hes awake earlier. Even thought hes awake by 3 he always (usually) goes down easily at 7ish, thats never been an issue really its just the staying asleep thats the issue.
tsc you have done really really well getting to this stage what with him co sleeping and how poorly hes been, i know it hasnt been easy for you either.
See dh memph and chu theres hope for us yet!!
dylthan great to see you back, good about the doc how are u feeling now? what else have u been up to?

dh a straw? how do you get him to take a straw L doesnt get it!

See that's part of it though vik - if he's waking at 3pm but still going to sleep easily at 7, he has only been up for 4 hours so he is kind of (not really but I'm trying to make a point) topping up from his earlier sleep. So if he sleeps earlier in the day, then going to bed a bit more tired (not over tired though) then in theory he will sleep longer the 'other end' of the sleep. Rather than waking up at 4/5 having had enough sleep. If that makes any sense? It makes perfect sense in my head but don't know if I'm conveying it well

DH one of the reasons I give lunch before is by the time I get him up, sometimes have to wait for him to 'come around' then sort lunch and get him to eat, we'd never get out of an afternoon! This way it's quick nappy change, quick drink then off out :)

Oh and babyboy has used a straw since out last trip to CPs, so that was...11 months old. I obviously didn't teach him, he just did it - but I think his limited oral movement means using a straw is actually easier for him than a beaker.

sorry memphis and dh i missed ur posts, keep doing that! Hmmmmmmmmmm yeah maybe i will think about changing things slightly re naps. It would give me a longer afternoon to do something a bit more meaningfull than just walk the dog.
He slept through till 5.20!!!!!not a peep untill then! however i was lying awake from about 3.30.....waiting...... and being kicked to death from the inside!! I didnt get him up untill 6.30 when he started getting a bit fed up, so a good night here, what about everyone else?

memphis we just bought him a beaker that had a straw built in because it was the easiest thing for him to drink from and it was non spill. We weighed up all the different beakers and that one was the best. He didnt know what to do at first but he soon learnt how to when he was thirsty!

He had a crap night, woke at 9, 11, 1 then he walked into our room at half 5 and stayed in with us til 7 buy he's now yawning and moaning because he's tired? I don't get it, I actually give up and couldn't care less. I HATE this sleeping thing.

I'll do your survey mlisc but you can fuck off
How many naps per day
1

Nap time(s)
12-2pm

Bedtime
7pm

Time lo gets up
any time between 4am and 5.30

Sleep through?
yes

Maybe once a week he has a morning nap, but then seeing as he's waking on average at 4.30, keeping him going til 12 is a big ask at this age. We do all our stuff in the mornings cos that's when the groups are so I can't stay in or there'd be nothing for L to do and she'd go mad. Tbh, when he has an hour in the morning and two at lunch he actually sleeps longer the following morning, it's just that I don't normally put him down or we can't get out. 5.18 this morning...a lie in...
Also by the by, I don't get him up when he wakes up, I check he's not pooed/vommed, shush him and leave him. He then screams til I give in and I make sure I never give in before 6. Bearing in mind our walls are made of paper mache, DH and I lie in bed fuming for the whole 1-2 hours but we can't see the point of getting him up or he'll think that it is morning. I hate the sound of my babies crying/screaming but if they're just taking the piss I have no problem leaving them to it (it just makes me furious).

memphis I think it's just practice with straws, S is quite happy with one but L sometimes has a juice carton when we're out and he shares that so he gets offered it reasonably often.

Nice to 'see' you back dylthan glad you found someone you can talk to!

dh that's a shocker of a night, poor you! It does proper piss you off doesn't it? I feel like I can deal with most things when I get enough sleep but at the moment I'm running on empty.

I've been wondering about the flu jab too viks, seeing as I've got to go all through the flu season before I'm due and that if I did come down with it we'd really struggle with L and S, I think it'd be better if I had it. I was adamant I wouldn't have it with S but then we lived in a small village-type place, summer baby and we didn't go to as many groups. No one's offered it to me though and the drop-ins have finished so I might ring up and try and get it.

Moussaka has aubergines in it I notice, that would be why I've not cooked it. I like them but DH thinks they're vile. I might try one anyway and see if I can convince him otherwise.

Oh yes, and of course leaving S to cry wakes L up and then she's knackered by lunch but doesn't have a nap anymore so we're all miserable by about 4pm.

no baby yet.